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WereWolf: A 13 player Seer game

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    And 15 minutes of silence. Wolves in the back room scrabbling for a way out, they'll have to bus GnR, no choice now, but how to save the rest of them.

    While villagers are sitting back because we've caught a wolf so nothing for them to today instead of trying to find the other two.

    C'mon, an alternative wagonomics (with me not confirmed if you like), or ... something??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Can we do majority voting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Wait - how far from LYLO are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    1 mislynch and LYLO?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    One more mislynch and it's LYLO.

    ie, two more mislynches and it's Game Over.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    3 wolves in 9 players:

    mislynch 3 wolves, 5 villagers
    munch 3 wolves, 4 villagers
    mislynch 3 wolves, 3 villagers - Game Over.

    Three of:
    1. Kitten_K
    2. Sullivlo
    3. whiplashy
    4. green&red
    6. kolido
    8. duffman
    9. clarabel
    10. baggly
    13. quickbeam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Ok so GNR is, imo, a good bet for lynch. I think everything i pointed to yesterday alongside that Ecto hint is a strong case.

    But we really really really need to be sure. And we need GNR here to flesh it out, i think? No? Any other ideas?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    We need to go back over Ecto's posts to see who was might have been N0 cleared, to at least shorten the odds in finding the other two.

    We need to go back over GnR's posts to see if there's a hint of who his team-mates are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Interactions analysis on GRN would be just the ticket.

    Then vote analysis with QB as a wolf, since she insisted.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Baggly wrote: »
    Then vote analysis with QB as a wolf, since she insisted.

    You might want to re-read that:
    quickbeam wrote: »
    C'mon, an alternative wagonomics (with me not confirmed if you like), or ... something??

    As in, me still one of the unknowns, not as a wolf.

    Doing wagonomics on me as a wolf will definitely lead you down the wrong path. I guarantee it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    Baggly wrote: »
    Why would Ecto suss Clara D1 enough to vote her, but then peek GNR.

    Was Clara under pressure in that lynch? If not maybe this was Ecto signalling who her N0 peek was?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Really? By voting for her as her best guess as the wolf?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Ectoplasm wrote: »
    Jesus, you go to the cinema and everything kicks off!

    Thanks for getting the info re autopriest Sully. For that you can be my N0 clear :D

    Agree with the getting organised thing, so my initial FFA is:

    #FFA1
    duffman
    tusk
    clarabel

    Here's her FFA. Doesn't give much by the way of reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Cant see her indicating her n0 peek with a lynch vote tbf


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Heres my #FFA2

    Ecto
    Baggly
    Tusk

    Ecto and Baggly for a similar offence, they are clever players, you have to dissect each post they make cause they are mixing truth with lies and innuendo all the time.

    Ecto first, accuses me of evasion, I called her out on it, I admitted I missed a question but that I had returned when pressed with what I thought was a satisfactory answer. She promised to return with further examples of my evasiveness, surprise, surprise they haven't arrived. I called her out on taking what I say to fit her narrative and she never responded. Top of my list



    Baggly for something similar, accuses me of going after him yesterday, I didnt, not once, in fact as I went as far as to ISO and put him in the neutral pile. But Baggly is a master at just slipping things like this in, it is a superb skill. Whenever I do get to be a wolf I will do my best to do it, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery




    Tusk is all over the shop, yesterday he ISO'd about 10 times, today he's accusing have the population. At worst its wolfie, at best its a distraction. Concentrate, focus. No matter who is turned up red he will be able to say I told you so, you should listen to me

    GnR's FFA2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Really? By voting for her as her best guess as the wolf?

    She would have known her vote would not have gotten Clara killed but that it would have been looked at should Ecto die. I could be over thinking it but we need to try find all the info we can.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Which also reminds me, he never answered this, and he's hardly likely to either, now that it could potentially be used to find his teammates. But can anyone else find it please?
    quickbeam wrote: »
    GnR, before you go, if you can, can you point me in the direction of your first FFA. I can't find it. Or if somebody else has them handy. I'm trying to put something together that requires a timeline of FFAs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Okay, let's see if I can do wagonomics now based on me being N0 cleared and GnR being N1 found:





    So, I'm no expert on wagonomics, and open to any of this being challenged:

    Two villagers in top two spots D1 so no reason for wolves to vote to save their teammate. Could potentially mean just the one wolf voter for Strawbs, ie GnR?

    Probably then one on Tusk, so Kitten, Bags or Duff.

    Then one on an outlier, so Whippy or Kolido


    Day 2, GnR not really in trouble lynch-wise. Only Ecto on him. GnR voted Bags where it was fairly tight at the top with Tusk getting 3 votes, and next 3 players getting 2 votes. Probably rules Bags out as a teammate.

    Would two wolves vote for Bags? Could rule out Kolido as wolf?

    If we're ruling out Kolido, then that means Whippy is a wolf per D1 votes (one of the two outliers).

    If Whippy is a wolf, would two wolves vote for Clara? Could rule both Clara and Kitten out as wolves.

    Which leaves just Duff as a Tusk voter D1 as a wolf.

    So there you go? Thoughts?


    When I looked last night to see if I could do waganmics I came up with the following

    The 3 (2 band people should be looked at)
    Baggly, Clara, Kitten

    I got the killing vote on tusk, and if I didnt know I was good and if we had only 1 mislynch I'd say we should be voting on me. But I obviously can't advocate that cause it's wrong on both levels.
    Also a few people seemed to be happy to move away from me yesterday

    day before saw tusk, Clara and whip on starting the strawberry bandwagon
    yesterday saw QB/Clara start on tusk, dufffers was already in tusk. GnR was happy to switch to tusk (but missed time so if he is wolf then he knew about both tusk and Bags being green)

    I don't think anyone was on Bags to be gone so K, as a wolf, voting Bags is plausible.
    I think it was hot enough yesterday (and every day) that more than one wolf could vote on me, especially given how few people were around yesterday. Which means Whip and Kitten could both be wolves




    (For me in GnR is red Baggly is red and the opposite is true then too) - also with fighting I just cannot see them on the same team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    G&R is unusually quiet. In fact the whole thread is very quiet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Really? By voting for her as her best guess as the wolf?

    yeah as much as I'd like that to be true I don't think so. yes it was myself and tusk and kitten on D1 where there was a bit of noise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Just catching up now guys, what happened to a noon start SK??
    Nice one getting Echo, figured that when she didn’t move off me yesterday.
    Don’t be apologises at all QB, if we figured it out then so would the rest, i was always going to be lynched as her last vote. At least this was when I flip red it’ll give you great street cred.
    You’ll be able to go after Baggly too, he’s being weak as water on me here, you can bring up him saying he’d never bus a teammate.
    In the meantime I’ll latch onto what he’s saying, that Ecto didn’t go after me hard enough, can’t see it being bought though but it’ll give ye more ammo to go for Baggly tomorrow.
    I hope there’s a speed day tomorrow, I’ll be raging being locked out of here


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Whiplashy wrote: »
    QB I ain’t no wolf so you’re right you’re no expert at wagonomics. I’m also not comfortable with clearing you after you attempting to start a CFD two nights in a row. Ectos post on you could have just been gut reaction to your posts.

    I’m not going to be around much today as heading to the hospital. Don’t think it really matters though as G&R has to be lynched tonight. Sticking in my vote now.

    And yet, one hour since, and you haven't put forward your own theories??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Just catching up now guys, what happened to a noon start SK??
    Nice one getting Echo, figured that when she didn’t move off me yesterday.

    pardon...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Just catching up now guys, what happened to a noon start SK??
    Nice one getting Echo, figured that when she didn’t move off me yesterday.
    Don’t be apologises at all QB, if we figured it out then so would the rest, i was always going to be lynched as her last vote. At least this was when I flip red it’ll give you great street cred.
    You’ll be able to go after Baggly too, he’s being weak as water on me here, you can bring up him saying he’d never bus a teammate.
    In the meantime I’ll latch onto what he’s saying, that Ecto didn’t go after me hard enough, can’t see it being bought though but it’ll give ye more ammo to go for Baggly tomorrow.
    I hope there’s a speed day tomorrow, I’ll be raging being locked out of here

    Hee, hee!! One hour later, and this is the best the wolves have come up with. A fake "posted in the wrong forum" post. Must do better next time, GnR!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    Ectoplasm wrote: »
    Jesus, you go to the cinema and everything kicks off!

    Thanks for getting the info re autopriest Sully. For that you can be my N0 clear :D

    Agree with the getting organised thing, so my initial FFA is:

    #FFA1
    duffman
    tusk
    clarabel

    Joke or hint dropping?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    kitten_k wrote: »
    Joke or hint dropping?

    Could be actually. I noticed another with Sully on my look back. Will get ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Just catching up now guys, what happened to a noon start SK??
    Nice one getting Echo, figured that when she didn’t move off me yesterday.
    Don’t be apologises at all QB, if we figured it out then so would the rest, i was always going to be lynched as her last vote. At least this was when I flip red it’ll give you great street cred.
    You’ll be able to go after Baggly too, he’s being weak as water on me here, you can bring up him saying he’d never bus a teammate.
    In the meantime I’ll latch onto what he’s saying, that Ecto didn’t go after me hard enough, can’t see it being bought though but it’ll give ye more ammo to go for Baggly tomorrow.
    I hope there’s a speed day tomorrow, I’ll be raging being locked out of here
    Lol.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Ectoplasm wrote: »
    Jesus. This is the thanks I get for defending you from QB earlier.

    Why would you vote me?

    This.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Could be actually. I noticed another with Sully on my look back. Will get ...

    This was her first mention of a N0 peek, happened when everyone was messing saying they got one, good time to drop it in without looking too obvious


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    quickbeam wrote: »
    This.
    It was whippy I was considering over Ecto last night.


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