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Is anyone else starting to become a bit excited?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Annnddddd she's green on the daily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    Annnddddd she's green on the daily.

    I'm bored/tired looking at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    How soon are we back to 12k? Sunday evening maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    How soon are we back to 12k? Sunday evening maybe?

    What currency? She just hit $12,000 20 minutes ago briefly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    What currency? She just hit $12,000 20 minutes ago briefly.


    Euros


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Here we go again :D

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Tango One


    Anyone heard of Dublin based exchanges bitsane, apparently it shut up shop and done a runner with everyone money.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-based-cryptocurrency-exchange-vanishes-16499710


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Tango One wrote: »
    Anyone heard of Dublin based exchanges bitsane, apparently it shut up shop and done a runner with everyone money.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-based-cryptocurrency-exchange-vanishes-16499710

    Lads are talking about this on the worried thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 SauNewb


    On the topic of losing everything on an exchange, is there a place in Dublin where you can buy a Ledger Nano S?

    Or can you only buy them online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    SauNewb wrote: »
    On the topic of losing everything on an exchange, is there a place in Dublin where you can buy a Ledger Nano S?

    Or can you only buy them online?

    Only buy them from Ledger. Too risky otherwise


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    SauNewb wrote: »
    On the topic of losing everything on an exchange, is there a place in Dublin where you can buy a Ledger Nano S?

    Or can you only buy them online?

    Only buy them from Ledger. Too risky otherwise

    +1

    This is one thing you don’t want to take any chance with.

    Also we were discussing this a few posts ago, but storing your own keys means more control but also a transfer of responsibility directly onto the user (as opposed to a third party) in terms of safe storage. So make sure you have a very safe way to store the recovery seed words (knowing that if anyone else sees those words they get instant access to your coins, and if you lose your copy of the words you have no way to recover your funds on another device when yours fails or gets stolen).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,184 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    SauNewb wrote: »
    On the topic of losing everything on an exchange, is there a place in Dublin where you can buy a Ledger Nano S?

    Or can you only buy them online?

    If you have a Samsung phone that can run Secure Folder, you could use that and save yourself the expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    cnocbui wrote: »
    If you have a Samsung phone that can run Secure Folder, you could use that and save yourself the expense.

    It is not the same thing as a Ledger device though. The Ledger (or other equivalent brands) has 2 chips, including a Secure Enclave which generates/stores the keys and does the signing, and is physically never exposed to the Internet (the keys never leave that enclave and are of course never transmitted to the other chip or to the computer/smartphone paired to the Ledger).

    As far as I know Samsung secure folders are just regular encrypted folders which are not stored in a Secure Enclave and can potentially be accessed from the internet. This would leave your keys potentially exposed to hacking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,184 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Bob24 wrote: »
    It is not the same thing as a Ledger device though. The Ledger (or other equivalent brands) has 2 processors, including a Secure Enclave which stores the keys and does the signing, and is never exposing any data to the Internet.

    As far as I know Samsung secure folders are just regular encrypted folders which are not stored in a Secure Enclave and can potentially be accessed from the internet.

    Nope. Secure Enclave is Apple's marketing hype for the TrustZone technology ARM designed into ARM processors many years ago. Samsung leveraged the tech in their Exynos processors to come up with a complete security system they called Knox, which proved to be secure enough that the NSA Approved it's use with certain categories of US government Classified material.

    A few years ago, either Trezor or Ledger had their software available to run under Knox to provide tha same capabilities as their own hardware wallets. The Secure Folder can have internet access if you set it up to have it, but it's intrinsically not a malware friendly environment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Only buy them from Ledger. Too risky otherwise

    I have one at home. Opened the box and looked at it once. Never used it. I probably should


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Nope. Secure Enclave is Apple's marketing hype for the TrustZone technology ARM designed into ARM processors many years ago. Samsung leveraged the tech in their Exynos processors to come up with a complete security system they called Knox, which proved to be secure enough that the NSA Approved it's use with certain categories of US government Classified material.

    A few years ago, either Trezor or Ledger had their software available to run under Knox to provide tha same capabilities as their own hardware wallets. The Secure Folder can have internet access if you set it up to have it, but it's intrinsically not a malware friendly environment.

    Let’s call it secure element rather than secure enclave if the terminology causes confusion with Apple.

    Fact is they have a separate chip from which the keys never, ever, come out as the hardware simply doesn’t allow it.

    If you sign a transaction using a Ledger device, the keys never leave the secure element.

    If you sign a transaction on a Samsung phone, I presume unencrypted keys have to be loaded onto the phone’s main chip to do the maths ... and if the phone (which is exposed to the Internet) has been compromised those keys could be captured by a hacker. Anything here you disagree with?

    So basically your key might be safe once it is in the Secure Folder, but before you can load it to the secure folder, any time you want to use it to sign a transaction on the phone, and anytime you simply want to display it on the screen of the phone, it will have to loaded unencrypted into the memory of a potentially compromised device.

    To be clear, I’m not saying Samsung’s technology is bad, I’m just saying that it’s not the equivalent of a purpose built device which has the capability of doing all those things without having the key leave the secure area.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Green candles again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    I'm sure some of you know but for those who dont Link has been listed on Coinbase.

    Also Steve Forbes has advised Zuck to back Libra with gold. He says it could replace the dollar.
    https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-forbes-tells-zuckerberg-use-gold-to-back-libra-call-it-the-mark/amp?__twitter_impression=true

    +
    EU is bypassing sanctions on Iran by creating a special payments/transaction vehicle that allows companies trade with Iran without having to use Swift.

    Commentators saying major implications for US dollar.
    This would surely drive Euro and BTC value up.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/trump-unleash-hell-europe-after-eu-says-spv-circumvent-swift-and-iran-sanctions-now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    I'm sure some of you know but for those who dont Link has been listed on Coinbase.

    Also Steve Forbes has advised Zuck to back Libra with gold. He says it could replace the dollar.
    https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-forbes-tells-zuckerberg-use-gold-to-back-libra-call-it-the-mark/amp?__twitter_impression=true

    Possibly the stupidest question I'll ever ask but if I dont I'll never know,other than a stop gap for other coins on a down swing,how does one make money on a stable coin if it was to replace the dollar?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    sexmag wrote: »
    How does one make money on a stable coin if it was to replace the dollar?

    Validating nodes will be earning interest from however much fiat gets sponged into their system. Apart from that, swing trading like it's Forex


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Saw link recommended yesterday but it had already run so I skipped it. Up another 25% since then.

    Will try not to fomo in as I know nothing about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Saw link recommended yesterday but it had already run so I skipped it. Up another 25% since then.

    Will try not to fomo in as I know nothing about it.

    Google "Link and Google":)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Rare earth metal, well actually not that rare at all.

    https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/06/29/nasa-asteroid-gold-bitcoin-space/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Frozen Veg


    Chain link added to coin base.

    Thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Frozen Veg wrote: »
    Chain link added to coin base.

    Thoughts?

    After a great pump so expect a dump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Saw link recommended yesterday but it had already run so I skipped it. Up another 25% since then.

    Will try not to fomo in as I know nothing about it.

    Couldn't resist, in at $4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,787 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Couldn't resist, in at $4

    Kind of risky buying at its all time high after such a massive pump but hopefully it can run some more. I'm up over 1,200% on my small Link holdings and I won't be buying more at current prices.

    Orange pilled.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    el diablo wrote: »
    Kind of risky buying at its all time high after such a massive pump but hopefully it can run some more. I'm up over 1,200% on my small Link holdings and I won't be buying more at current prices.

    Only a bit of play money!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    If anyone would like me to cause a drop in any other coin just hit me up.


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