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La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

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    #3362
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    nee wrote: »
    Anyone have any leads on aplastic free bidon? That's not metal. I can't seem to find a plastic free sports bottle, or one you don't have to open with both hands, or metal. I really thought there'd be something out there already!

    Well...that's a fairly specific set of requirements! What's wrong with metal?


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    #3363
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    daragh_ wrote: »
    https://interallgroup.com/biobidon/

    Excellent, thank you.

    Mickiemcfist wrote: »
    Well...that's a fairly specific set of requirements! What's wrong with metal?

    I've had bottles bounce out at races, I don't want anything going bang against my frame, myself or anything else! At least with bamboo or plastic they deform. I had my metal one fly out of my bag on dame street once, I was luckily on my steel bike but it bounced off my seatstay, no damage done, but rolled out in front of traffic. Less secure an outcome with carbon or alu.

    Bottles rarely go flying, but when they do they're proper missiles. Ramps in races is where it's happened to me before. Don't want a metal bottle flying around a bunch!


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    #3364
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    I thought elite did biodegradeable ones now. The madison genesis ones a load of us bought were apparently biodegradeable.

    Also, on metal falling when on a bike. My ZojiRushi flask (highly recommended for coffee drinkers) fell out once and it made an almight clatter that startled me.


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    #3365
    eeeee
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    Weepsie wrote: »
    I thought elite did biodegradeable ones now. The madison genesis ones a load of us bought were apparently biodegradeable.

    Also, on metal falling when on a bike. My ZojiRushi flask (highly recommended for coffee drinkers) fell out once and it made an almight clatter that startled me.

    Yeah. I kind of don't want any plastic at all, biodegradable or not. Biodegradability is a bit of a contentious one, most are only biodegradable in very specific industrial conditions.

    One of the plastic free bottles will be going on a plastic bike, bit of an own goal really :o I did buy it second hand in my paltry defence.


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    #3366
    magicbastarder
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    nee wrote: »
    Biodegradability is a bit of a contentious one, most are only biodegradable in very specific industrial conditions.
    yeah, my wife bought compostable coffee pods last year. they may be compostable, but the guts of a year in our compost bin - where everything else composted - made no visible difference to these pods.


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    #3367
    tomasrojo
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    purple hands wrote: »
    Having a bit of a daily struggle carrying cable lock on the bike. Tried wrapping around seatpost, intertwined with u lock and top tube etc., but always seems to unravel. Any idiot-proof methods suggested?

    If you're just using it to secure a wheel or saddle (I assume you're not using it to secure the bike itself), you could get a Hiplok z-lok combo instead. They're not very secure either, but they're light and they're easier to carry. I thread mine through the rails of a Brooks saddle at the back.


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    #3368
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,968 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    purple hands wrote: »
    Having a bit of a daily struggle carrying cable lock on the bike...
    If it's a daily struggle I'm presuming you are travelling to the same place. Would leaving the lock where you lock the bike be an option? (And buy a second for home or wherever if you have to).


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    #3369
    bp_me
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    yeah, my wife bought compostable coffee pods last year. they may be compostable, but the guts of a year in our compost bin - where everything else composted - made no visible difference to these pods.

    Compostable often means industrial composting which is done at elevated temperatures.


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    #3370
    magicbastarder
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    yeah, that's what we presume, but it's a bit of a swizz to claim they're compostable without that disclaimer.


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    #3371
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,820 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    has anyone heard anything about this?
    seems an odd way to steal bikes, creating lots of witness testimony.

    https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1142017374733910016


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    #3372
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    So, what's the crack with them then. Does it mean if you chuck them in your brown bin they will be industrially composted?

    I'd agree there's an element of false advertising there. If I read something as compostable, I'd assume I'd be able to do it myself.


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    #3373
    LollipopJimmy
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    has anyone heard anything about this?
    seems an odd way to steal bikes, creating lots of witness testimony.

    https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1142017374733910016

    White Ford Transits are usually the vehicle of choice within a certain group who don't give a single ****e about about witnesses.


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    #3374
    Plastik
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    Builders?


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    #3375
    Wishbone Ash
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    Chips Lovell wrote: »
    So, what's the crack with them then. Does it mean if you chuck them in your brown bin they will be industrially composted?

    I'd agree there's an element of false advertising there. If I read something as compostable, I'd assume I'd be able to do it myself.
    I'd have assumed it could go in the brown bin - not that it was compostable by me.


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    #3376
    magicbastarder
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    '100% compostable' but mentions putting them in your brown bin:
    https://www.bewleys.com/ie/bewleys-launches-a-range-of-100-compostable-coffee-capsules/

    obviously, some people will read '100% compostable' as being 'very compostable' when it almost certainly means '100% of the product is compostable'.


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    #3377
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Official Nespresso pods are recyclable, and they will give you a bag to put them in and post back via Parcel Motel every order or you can drop them into the shop. The price between them and the cheap brands is not as much as people would have you believe, and considering they have not blended alu and plastic, the few times I use them nowadays I try and convince myself its slightly less worse for the planet than the cheap ones.

    Can someone tell me have I just bought into a marketing ploy?


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    #3378
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Official Nespresso pods are recyclable, and they will give you a bag to put them in and post back via Parcel Motel every order or you can drop them into the shop. The price between them and the cheap brands is not as much as people would have you believe, and considering they have not blended alu and plastic, the few times I use them nowadays I try and convince myself its slightly less worse for the planet than the cheap ones.

    Can someone tell me have I just bought into a marketing ploy?

    You can buy a reusable alu pod online, then buy your coffee of choice in a bag. Much less waste and cheaper


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    #3379
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,820 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my favoured option is the aeropress.


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    #3380
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Sorta tempted to put one of these on the bike:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacaco-Nanopresso-Portable-Protective-Minipresso/dp/B0752XV66X


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    #3381
    smacl
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    Plastik wrote: »
    Builders?

    Politicians? :)


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    #3382
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    ED E wrote: »
    Sorta tempted to put one of these on the bike:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacaco-Nanopresso-Portable-Protective-Minipresso/dp/B0752XV66X

    You need hot water too.


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    #3383
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,968 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    CramCycle wrote: »
    ....Can someone tell me have I just bought into a marketing ploy?
    Yes - just buy a jar of Nescafe/Maxwell House etc. like the rest of use an save all that hassle. :D


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    #3384
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Yes - just buy a jar of Nescafe/Maxwell House etc. like the rest of use an save all that hassle. :D

    I'd rather drink muddy water than that stuff!


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    #3385
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Raam wrote: »
    You need hot water too.

    Ahh yes, theres one somewhere with a heater Im pretty sure. No idea what its called.


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    #3386
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    nee wrote: »
    Anyone have any leads on a plastic free bidon? That's not metal. I can't seem to find a plastic free sports bottle, or one you don't have to open with both hands, or metal. I really thought there'd be something out there already!

    what about the corn based plastics now, as opposed to oil based? the softness of plastics makes them ideal for cages, rigid ones wont fit so good.

    In terms of compostable, i was of impression that the new elite ones could be put in the compost bins as they are corn based.


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    #3387
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,682 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Out out a spin today doing intervals and while watt watching on the last one I came within inches of planting my face into a rear windscreen in stopped traffic, very scary moment

    Fast forward 2 hrs later I came close to crashing the car when I looked left only in a car park and nearly piled into an oncoming car.

    An eventful day for me....


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    #3388
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    my favoured option is the aeropress.

    I use the this and grind my own beans that I rather environmentally unfriendly normally get delivered from Belfast.

    I also use this (well the origin version) , a manual espresso maker. Obviously not as good as a machine, but makes a nice coffee all the same i think

    813QVJXGU9L._SY550_.jpg


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    #3389
    magicbastarder
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    surely someone has invented a coffee grinder which is powered by pedalling.
    maybe this is how i will make my millions.


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    #3390
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Lorries displace a lot of air:
    https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1142492732071579648


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    #3391
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,820 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's worth noting though that -impressive as that is - even a lorry will only pull a cloud of vapour a foot or so to the side, as it's actually passing; you san see things get a bit messier after it's actually passed.


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