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Trigger Happy · 20-06-2019 04:49PM

I don’t like change.

Pawwed Rig · 20-06-2019 04:49PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Get better mods then or update the charter.

The mods we have are fine. There was just too much bile to keep up with. We still plan on further increasing the mod numbers but when modding is no longer fun then there is a problem.
No issue with the charter either. Noone reads it anyway. I know I haven't.As long as it has 'don't be a dick' in it then it is fit for purpose imo.

Fan of Netflix · 20-06-2019 04:50PM

I'm not sure how to tell the difference between both

This is it · 20-06-2019 04:50PM

It'd be an idea to add/replace a link like Politics and the Irish forum at the top of the page. Might push traffic, less clicks to get there the better.

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-06-2019 04:50PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

AH was becoming un moddable (is that a word?). This is a solution. Maybe not THE solution but A solution.

There's bloody 14 of them for this new thing

If AH couldn't be moderated then maybe the moderators needed to be changed. That could be said for an awful lot of forums here.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 20-06-2019 04:52PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Agree with the above. Never really a need for a Current Affairs forum, AH is for current affairs pretty much. I don't really get what the difference is supposed to be. What makes something suitable for CA that isn't suitable for AF and vice versa? There's a litany of threads in AH that could be deemed current affairs, will they all be moved?

Unlike cafe it looks like the moderation is the same. Give it time.

_blaaz · 20-06-2019 04:53PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Agree with the above. Never really a need for a Current Affairs forum, AH is for current affairs pretty much. I don't really get what the difference is supposed to be. What makes something suitable for CA that isn't suitable for AF and vice versa? There's a litany of threads in AH that could be deemed current affairs, will they all be moved?

Id imagine in practice it be just for politics??

Its a climbdown on politics cafe and requesting access without actually climbing down?

Becuase afaik before they nuked the orginal cafe it had massive traffic....something along those lines id imagine

20-06-2019 04:53PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

The mods we have are fine. There was just too much bile to keep up with. We still plan on further increasing the mod numbers but when modding is no longer fun then there is a problem.
No issue with the charter either. Noone reads it anyway. I know I haven't.As long as it has 'don't be a dick' in it then it is fit for purpose imo.

Yeah it's not meant to be fun though.

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-06-2019 04:57PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Yeah it's not meant to be fun though.

They decide it's fun/serious and that the mods are just regular posters/not regular posters based on whatever suits them shooting down someone at the time.

suicide_circus · 20-06-2019 04:57PM

i would say that the kind of people who still use vbulletin forums are not the kind of people who enjoy change

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-06-2019 04:58PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

i would say that the kind of people who still use vbulletin forums are not the kind of people who enjoy change

Or just people who like posts in the proper chronological order.

This is it · 20-06-2019 05:00PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Yeah it's not meant to be fun though.

Maybe fun is the wrong word. Enjoyment might be better in my opinion.

I was mod of a fair few forums and gave them up one by one as it became more of a pain in the arse than it was worth. I wanted to give back but not at the expense of my enjoyment of the site.

I don't believe this split will resolve the issue but I understand why it's getting a run out.

Edit, just to add, I did have a lot of fun when modding, behind the scenes and with posters in the forums

FFred · 20-06-2019 05:10PM

FFred wrote: »

So as a starting point and a guideline, the etiquette/scat thread would stay in AH while the Ana Kriegel thread would move to current affairs?

Am I doing this right?

I can see both sides of the argument for and against splitting AH .

I’ll quote myself from earlier as an example, the Ana Kriegel thread is too serious for **** talk, whilst the ****(etiquette) thread is too ‘humorous’ for serious talk.

RobbingBandit · 20-06-2019 05:12PM

I want a dates forum damn currants don't need no more attention mmmmmmh tasty dates, berries forum too Chuck Berry too.

Tokyo · 20-06-2019 05:12PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Get better mods then or update the charter.

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

There's bloody 14 of them for this new thing

If AH couldn't be moderated then maybe the moderators needed to be changed. That could be said for an awful lot of forums here.

Changed with who exactly? As AH stands, we had mods and admin threatened via PM with doxxing, threats of finding out where they lived, physical abuse, etc. I'm pretty sure I've read at least a few reported PMs from particularly charming posters where mods have been threatened with rape. Who in their right mind would sign up for that?

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-06-2019 05:15PM

mike_ie wrote: »

Changed with who exactly? As AH stands, we had mods and admin threatened via PM with doxxing, threats of finding out where they lived, physical abuse, etc. I'm pretty sure I've read at least a few reported PMs from particularly charming posters where mods have been threatened with rape. Who in their right mind would sign up for that?

None of that should be allowed to pass but there could also be a massive improvement in moderation, it's all too lazy and too smug and a lot of it seems to be geared towards deliberately antagonising posters. It's not about getting people to sign up for it for more of the same, it should be about fixing it altogether.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-06-2019 05:16PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

The mods we have are fine. There was just too much bile to keep up with. We still plan on further increasing the mod numbers but when modding is no longer fun then there is a problem.
No issue with the charter either. Noone reads it anyway. I know I haven't.As long as it has 'don't be a dick' in it then it is fit for purpose imo.

:eek:

You’re a category mod for the heading AH falls under and you haven’t read the charter?

JohnnyFlash · 20-06-2019 05:16PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

None of that should be allowed to pass but there could also be a massive improvement in moderation, it's all too lazy and too smug. It's not about getting people to sign up for it for more of the same, it should be about fixing it altogether.

Would you think about stepping up to the plate yourself, dude? Instead of being a hurler on the ditch.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-06-2019 05:18PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Would you think about stepping up to the plate yourself, dude? Instead of being a hurler on the ditch.

It doesn’t work that way.

Mixing baseball and hurling metaphors. Interesting.

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-06-2019 05:19PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Would you think about stepping up to the plate yourself, dude? Instead of being a hurler on the ditch.

I wouldn't last two seconds, you only have to look at how things are handled at a higher level (ban appeals, etc) to see where it's coming from. Plus, my 'record' is abysmal.

Fr_Dougal · 20-06-2019 05:35PM

Shur look, when it doesn’t work out and AH starts to go the way of all other fora management can always blame the likes of Twitter & Co. for the drop in users.

It will make an interesting case study in a few years time for someone’s thesis.

JohnnyFlash · 20-06-2019 05:36PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It doesn’t work that way.

Mixing baseball and hurling metaphors. Interesting.

So? It’s not like I’m behind the 8 ball or anything. Didn’t let down my guard, and I’m not exactly chomping at the bit either. I’ve also had a liquid lunch and am on my 7th pint.

Pawwed Rig · 20-06-2019 06:05PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

There's bloody 14 of them for this new thing

14 what's?

Omackeral wrote: »

Yeah it's not meant to be fun though.

Who says? Strange post tbh. They don't moderate for the financial benefits anyway.

mistress_gi · 20-06-2019 06:09PM

Did I miss it?

20-06-2019 06:11PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Who says? Strange post tbh. They don't moderate for the financial benefits anyway.

How is it a strange post? You're essentially supposed to be a referee.

Kimbot · 20-06-2019 06:12PM

mistress_gi wrote: »

Did I miss it?

Yeah...... everyone is banned

Pawwed Rig · 20-06-2019 06:13PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I wouldn't last two seconds, you only have to look at how things are handled at a higher level (ban appeals, etc) to see where it's coming from. Plus, my 'record' is abysmal.

Bans appeal thing is always trotted out yet I have overturned as many as I have upheld. You are spot on with the rest of your post though :pac:

Kimbot · 20-06-2019 06:13PM

Omackeral wrote: »

How is it a strange post? You're essentially supposed to be a referee.

A referee for free no less...... I bet you wouldn't do your job for zero pay

Pawwed Rig · 20-06-2019 06:16PM

Omackeral wrote: »

You're essentially supposed to be a referee.

Again, who says? The only remit a mod has, IMO, is to stop dickish posting.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-06-2019 06:18PM

Kimbot wrote: »

A referee for free no less...... I bet you wouldn't do your job for zero pay

Being a moderator isn’t anyone’s paying job though. I don’t know how “We don’t get paid!” is a defence against criticism considering you would have known there was no pay when you signed on.

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