Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019/2020

1…244245247249250…336

Comments

  • #7382
    BullBlackNova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭BullBlackNova


    Kamil Grabara has been playing for the Poland u21 side in the Euros. Kept a clean sheet tonight against Italy. Didn't see the game.

    Wonder if he'll be at the club next season or loaned out again?


  • #7383
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,695 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Ah Jesus someone's not banging the we need a proper no9 drum again? We have 3 world class forwards.


  • #7384
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I'd like someone that can play in any position across the front three. Yes we do have three very good strikers but the problem is, that they play every game possible. So i would love someone in that can cover and even compete for a starting slot.


  • #7385
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Of course you would pick us in FIFA Mbappe :

    https://twitter.com/stuffIfc/status/1141417161967190016?s=20


  • #7386
    .G.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭.G.


    He's such a flirt. Buyout your deal with PSG like Neymar did with Barca, its the only way we're getting him!


  • Advertisement
  • #7387
    ERG89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    rob316 wrote: »
    Ah Jesus someone's not banging the we need a proper no9 drum again? We have 3 world class forwards.

    The only concern going into next season is those 3 lads are after a world cup after we made a Champions Leaguefinal, then another long ass season followed by another International tournament for each of them. The worry is that it could catch up on them.


  • #7388
    .G.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭.G.


    I think for the first part of the season anyway, we'll see a formation change of somesort whereby not all of them will play every game.


  • #7389
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Klopp is patient, he adds real quality one at a time if need be. I like that, it's not only cheaper but it improves the team.
    No need for use to buy potential. I'd love a 30 goals a season striker. A real No9
    .G. wrote: »
    I don't think we need one, its not how we play or how we operate in the market, any lads we sign usually play in a multitude of positions. If we sign a front player it'll be one who can play at least two of the 3 positions up there. Thats what I want to see as a minimum, another versatile top class attacking player. Mane and Salah can play up top as well as Bobby, both of them can play on the right too, left side we only really have Mane.

    We could totally go for, and play, a 30 goal a season striker - but I don't think we as a team would score any extra goals (and would likely actually score less). Mane and Salah get as many as they do because of the work Firmino does pulling defenders around, and playing the two lads in behind. Replace him with a guy who sits up looking to take the chances, and Mane and Salah become far less active in a game.

    I'd prefer we stick to what we have, effectively having 2 x 30 goal a season wide forwards, and a 15 to 20 goal a season centre forward, where if any one of them stutters for a while, the others pick up the slack (as we saw this season).


  • #7390
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,442 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Liverpool need strength in depth in case of injuries or burnout. An longterm injury to VVD or the front 3 would be a disaster.

    KDB was barely missed by City thanks to their squad and he was their player of the season previous year.

    Liverpool can't afford to stand still now when they are so close. A centreback (better than Matip and less injury prone than Gomez), goal scoring midfield and top striker are needed to take that final step. If it costs 200 million so be it.


  • #7391
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    In terms of attacking depth, I'd actually love us to go for a cheeky, Italian style loan of James Rodriguez. Think he'd suit us well, where we don't need him to act as the soul attacking fulcrum, but rather just support for the others. Two things he's always been, and still is, brilliant at are finishing, and clever final balls in the final third.

    Would have to be the right deal, but Madrid need him out of the squad, so could probably get him for his wages alone (probably high, but without a fee being paid, pretty grand).

    Think it would also suit him to simply not be needed every game - could be well managed.

    <edit> though now that I google him, I see that typically enough an Italian club has already stuck in. Napoli in talks. Looks like it's not a done deal yet though.


  • Advertisement
  • #7392
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Apparently a deal is done for James with Napoli. I'd love to see a CB, our Dept is Virgil/Gomez- Matip/Lovren I'd like to see a solid ball winner in beside Virgil of proven champions league Calibre, Koulibaly has that in spades, it will be tough but a great signing.

    I'd love Fekir in the midfield, and then possibly another option up top, like Werner who has stated that he isn't commiting to a new deal with RB Leipzig


  • #7393
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Seems to be very little strong rumours about us and any signing's
    We seem to e running a tight ship with regards leaks to the press these days


  • #7394
    x43r0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Seems to be very little strong rumours about us and any signing's
    We seem to e running a tight ship with regards leaks to the press these days

    Or more likely is that there will be very little signings of note, as has been reported multiple times


  • #7395
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    x43r0 wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Seems to be very little strong rumours about us and any signing's
    We seem to e running a tight ship with regards leaks to the press these days

    Or more likely is that there will be very little signings of note, as has been reported multiple times

    It's mid June I'd not be taking that as gospel yet I'd imagine we will have some players in early July.


  • #7396
    BillyHasMates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭BillyHasMates


    I don't understand why we are discussing possibly strengthening our CB options. The options we have there are as good as any other team in the league. Any upgrade would be expensive. Imo it's only worth considering if one of our options wants to leave or is sold. Fullback cover is a much greater priority for me. It's already been demonstrated how instrumental TAA and Robertson have been to our success, and how reliant we are on them in attack. We currently don't have adequate cover for either of them. We would be relying on Gomez and Milner who are not like for like replacements for TAA and Roberston. The team, particularly in attack, would suffer if either or both were injured for a decent spell. That's more concerning for me than even VVD missing some games.

    I don't see us looking at midfield options. Personally I would love a De Bruyne type player but I don't think that type of player fits into Klopp's plans. It has been shown that we don't have many goals / assists coming from midfield. It's the major difference I see between ourselves and City. I don't consider Lallana an option due to his injury / fitness problems. Will be interesting to see if Keita or Ox will be asked to step up to fill that role. Also interesting to see if Klopp tries to tweak how the team plays and the midfield functions next season.

    With Origi being offered a new contract and Brewster possibly being given chances next season it would appear that we may only be in for one attacking addition if any. Would love either of Aubameyang or Lacazette. Even Son or Moura at Spurs. Wishful thinking though. I don't know much about Werner and don't think we have been strongly linked with anyone else.


  • #7397
    Dickerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Tom Heaton has refused an extension at Burnley, would be good backup.

    I had suggested we go for Nick Pope

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110179262&postcount=3938

    but this would too, on the basis that they have 3 English keepers and I presumed that Hart would stay as probably first choice...


  • #7398
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    BillyHasMates wrote: »
    I don't understand why we are discussing possibly strengthening our CB options. The options we have there are as good as any other team in the league. Any upgrade would be expensive. Imo it's only worth considering if one of our options wants to leave or is sold. Fullback cover is a much greater priority for me. It's already been demonstrated how instrumental TAA and Robertson have been to our success, and how reliant we are on them in attack. We currently don't have adequate cover for either of them. We would be relying on Gomez and Milner who are not like for like replacements for TAA and Roberston. The team, particularly in attack, would suffer if either or both were injured for a decent spell. That's more concerning for me than even VVD missing some games.

    I don't see us looking at midfield options. Personally I would love a De Bruyne type player but I don't think that type of player fits into Klopp's plans. It has been shown that we don't have many goals / assists coming from midfield. It's the major difference I see between ourselves and City. I don't consider Lallana an option due to his injury / fitness problems. Will be interesting to see if Keita or Ox will be asked to step up to fill that role. Also interesting to see if Klopp tries to tweak how the team plays and the midfield functions next season.

    With Origi being offered a new contract and Brewster possibly being given chances next season it would appear that we may only be in for one attacking addition if any. Would love either of Aubameyang or Lacazette. Even Son or Moura at Spurs. Wishful thinking though. I don't know much about Werner and don't think we have been strongly linked with anyone else.


    You believe Matip, Lovren and Hoever is solid enough at CB. I personally don't. Believe how has great potential to, but as it stands I'd want someone proven in beside Virgil.


  • #7399
    BillyHasMates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭BillyHasMates


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    You believe Matip, Lovren and Hoever is solid enough at CB. I personally don't. Believe how has great potential to, but as it stands I'd want someone proven in beside Virgil.

    You missed Gomez. I didn't say we can't upgrade CB. My point was that fullback cover was a much greater priority given our reliance on them in attack.


  • #7400
    Alonso77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Alonso77


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    You believe Matip, Lovren and Hoever is solid enough at CB. I personally don't. Believe how has great potential to, but as it stands I'd want someone proven in beside Virgil.

    Has Matip not proven himself last season?


  • #7401
    Dickerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    x43r0 wrote: »
    Or more likely is that there will be very little signings of note, as has been reported multiple times

    Well they do that to calm down the rumour mill, but we HAVE to make a couple of signings to keep pace with our rivals (City, Real so far), and to replace outgoing.

    But questions remain about what we will do with Wilson, Kent, Ejaria, Grujic, Clyne and Grabara. I don't think Grabara is ready fort #2, so another loan. I'd sell Clyne, Kent and Ejaria. And I'd keep Wilson and Grujic in the squad, good options to have...


  • Advertisement
  • #7402
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    BillyHasMates wrote: »
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    You believe Matip, Lovren and Hoever is solid enough at CB. I personally don't. Believe how has great potential to, but as it stands I'd want someone proven in beside Virgil.

    You missed Gomez. I didn't say we can't upgrade CB. My point was that fullback cover was a much greater priority given our reliance on them in attack.
    I didn't miss him my phone auto corrected Joe to how.


  • #7403
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Alonso77 wrote: »
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    You believe Matip, Lovren and Hoever is solid enough at CB. I personally don't. Believe how has great potential to, but as it stands I'd want someone proven in beside Virgil.

    Has Matip not proven himself last season?
    Considering he got injured in July out till September then injured in December out for 7 weeks then. He hasn't played enough to say he's proven himself. That's why I'm saying someone proven.


  • #7404
    BullBlackNova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭BullBlackNova


    Dickerty wrote: »
    Well they do that to calm down the rumour mill, but we HAVE to make a couple of signings to keep pace with our rivals (City, Real so far), and to replace outgoing.

    But questions remain about what we will do with Wilson, Kent, Ejaria, Grujic, Clyne and Grabara. I don't think Grabara is ready fort #2, so another loan. I'd sell Clyne, Kent and Ejaria. And I'd keep Wilson and Grujic in the squad, good options to have...

    I reckon Grabara, Kent and Ejaria will be loaned out. Ejaria strikes me as the kind of player that will be released in 2023 and we'll all say "how the **** was he still here?" like Conor Randall this summer.

    Wilson and Grujic are more likely to be sold, I think. They have both shown flashes and, as such, are likely to actually attract interest and some decent money. I reckon you could be looking at about £20m each.

    Add that to whatever we get for Clyne and Camacho, and the Ings money and there is a decent bit of cash floating around if we do decide to make a move.


  • #7405
    Alonso77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Alonso77


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Considering he got injured in July out till September then injured in December out for 7 weeks then. He hasn't played enough to say he's proven himself. That's why I'm saying someone proven.

    He made 30 + appearances last season and was one of our outstanding performers especially in the champs lg.

    I think and the general consensus is hes proven himself just fine.


  • #7406
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Liverpool need strength in depth in case of injuries or burnout. An longterm injury to VVD or the front 3 would be a disaster.

    KDB was barely missed by City thanks to their squad and he was their player of the season previous year.

    Liverpool can't afford to stand still now when they are so close. A centreback (better than Matip and less injury prone than Gomez), goal scoring midfield and top striker are needed to take that final step. If it costs 200 million so be it.

    Ahoy we buy another world class goalie to cover for Allison for fear he gets injured? An attacker’s is definitely needed however


  • #7407
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Alonso77 wrote: »
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Considering he got injured in July out till September then injured in December out for 7 weeks then. He hasn't played enough to say he's proven himself. That's why I'm saying someone proven.

    He made 30 + appearances last season and was one of our outstanding performers especially in the champs lg.

    I think and the general consensus is hes proven himself just fine.


    30 plus?
    He started 17 and came on 3 as a sub.


  • #7408
    gibgodsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gibgodsman


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Considering he got injured in July out till September then injured in December out for 7 weeks then. He hasn't played enough to say he's proven himself. That's why I'm saying someone proven.

    Are you smoking something? Matip was outstanding last season, proved it time and time again, played loads of games and won a CL..... hes our 2nd choice 100% atm


  • #7409
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,977 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    BillyHasMates wrote: »
    I don't understand why we are discussing possibly strengthening our CB options. The options we have there are as good as any other team in the league. Any upgrade would be expensive. Imo it's only worth considering if one of our options wants to leave or is sold.

    We never replaced Klavan and got stuck last season playing a 16-year old and Fabinho at CB in the cup.

    I get that Fabinho might be the 5th choice option if it comes down to it but I do think we were left short by Klavan leaving.

    Yes we had 4 options (well 1 nailed on and 3 options :P ) but the fact is those are:

    Lovren - never made more than 10 consecutive appearances for us without an injury, 6+ consecutive appearances only twice

    Gomez - missed a lot of time last season, his first season with us, and the end of the 2017/18 season. Can't rely on his fitness for a full season unfortunately. Missed 97 games through injury in 4 seasons.

    Matip - More injury problems. Unlucky with the collar bone break but a mixture of others. Missed 40 games through injury in 3 seasons which is more than Lovren has in 5 seasons.

    van Dijk - played more minutes than any other footballer in Europe last season anywhere. Beast of a player. However missed the majority of a season with Southampton before signing for us.


    Obviously thinking that any of these guys will get injured for long spells is pessimistic and the fact that they've all had significant absences in the past is no guarantee that it will happen again, and happen to all of them consecutively.

    But at the same time why leave yourself short in the unlikely event that it does happen? Especially considering that 3 of our CB's get injured more often than the average player.

    I wouldn't be saying we need to break the bank for a shiny new defender. But if we got, say a Christopher Schindler or some other Kolo Toure-esque defender from a relegated club or experienced player out of contract who would be happy to basically never play except for cup games to give others a rest or just sit on the bench as the emergency break glass option then why not?


  • #7410
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    gibgodsman wrote: »
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Considering he got injured in July out till September then injured in December out for 7 weeks then. He hasn't played enough to say he's proven himself. That's why I'm saying someone proven.

    Are you smoking something? Matip was outstanding last season, proved it time and time again, played loads of games and won a CL..... hes our 2nd choice 100% atm

    I didn't say he was bad, I said he's unproven 17 games isn't proven.


  • Advertisement
  • #7411
    magma69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    30 plus?
    He started 17 and came on 3 as a sub.

    He made 30 appearances in competitive games. 25 starts and 5 substitute.

    He's had a very good season. If we had a blank cheque I might be down with us signing someone like DeLigt but our CB is pretty stacked as it is with quality options. There's more pressing areas on the pitch to improve.

    LB back up and a quality versatile attacker is what I think should be priority.

    That said our squad is in good shape as it is, I wouldn't be losing my **** if we didn't make a major signing this Summer.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement