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How is a man supposed to find a woman in the 21st century

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Tuco88 wrote: »
    Whats with all the wear dark colours? Its the summer.

    Are you ment to look like the blues brother's or something now???

    Put on what you like...rock what you wear

    Honestly some of the advise on this, are some of you working for the church? Is this the new recruitment target for Nuns/Priest's?

    It's advice for men who don't know how to dress.

    Most men look like ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    It's advice for men who don't know how to dress.

    Most men look like ****.

    Oh wow, generalized nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Oh wow, generalized nonsense.

    We are generalising.

    This is not a scientific project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    You're right.

    But like... there's more to it than that.

    I've kissed probably 500 women. I don't think that's an age thing.

    I'm gonna sleep soon.

    Only that? :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    We are generalising.

    This is not a scientific project.

    Thanks for confirming, as I said above. Nonsense. Though having read back a page, it seems it isn't your first doozey.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Thanks for confirming, as I said above. Nonsense. Though having read back a page, it seems it isn't your first doozey.

    Most Irish men dress like ****.

    I stand by this generalisation.

    Even simply this: how many Irish men wear clothes which fit them? It's not the majority.

    Perhaps your definition of "****" is different to mine.

    Surely you've seen the threads here about Irish women looking terrible. Well it applies to Irish men too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Most Irish men dress like ****.

    I stand by this generalisation.

    Even simply this: how many Irish men wear clothes which fit them? It's not the majority.

    Perhaps your definition of "****" is different to mine.

    Where are pulling all these wonderful stats from? Most.. majority... ? Do you literally walk the streets everyday taking notes with a clip board?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Where are pulling all these wonderful stats from? Most.. majority... ? Do you literally walk the streets everyday taking notes with a clip board?

    It's called an opinion.

    You're allowed have one too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    It's called an opinion.

    You're allowed have one too.

    Yes, generalized nonsense.. have you forgotten already?! You're not really giving an opinion when you state most and start quoting how many girls you've kissed. More than once you directly or indirectly tried to 'trump' others with your alleged experience, which is by default statistically insignificant and as I said above, nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Yes, generalized nonsense.. have you forgotten already?!

    Do you understand what boards.ie is?

    Shall I go through your post history and find all the occurrences where you gave yoru own opinion, and criticise you for it?

    Are we really going to be this autistic about things?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    That only applies to women who have and want kids. What about the women who love their careers and don't want to have kids?

    How many of those are out there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Do you understand what boards.ie is?

    Shall I go through your post history and find all the occurrences where you gave yoru own opinion, and criticise you for it?

    Are we really going to be this autistic about things?
    Wow, pot kettle black there. Not sure you understand how opinions work. not rocket science as you said earlier. Fire away on digging through my posts. I don't attempt to trump others with school yard stuff "I've kissed more girls than you" and then insult others who call you out on gibberish posts. All the best now, schooling the singletons of boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Wow, pot kettle black there. Not sure you understand how opinions work. not rocket science as you said earlier. Fire away on digging through my posts. I don't attempt to trump others with school yard stuff "I've kissed more girls than you" and then insult others who call you out on gibberish posts. All the best now, schooling the singletons of boards.

    You're ridiculous.

    I don't care if you're a virgin or inexperienced.

    Good luck to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,128 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What about a man that seeks to find a man?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I thought it would be Sliders with all the phasing going on

    The epidode where most of the men have been killed and the remainder are sent to breeding centres?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,419 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    this stuff may seem difficult (e.g. black and white thinking: looking well means wearing a suit), but you can do this.

    Wear dark coloured clothes.

    Wear clothes which fit you.

    Wear shoes not trainers. Or wear a very limited range or trainers (simple Vans, black Converse).

    That's basically it.

    Think Keanu Reeves. You won't go wrong with this style.

    Yes, you can. If your work uniform is a white apron with pink polka dots, then that's what you're stuck with. Wear black and you'll get the sack, and all the flirting opportunities that you might have had at work will disappear.

    And again, anyone showing up to any of the dance events I go to, dressed in black "well fitting" clothes and fancy shoes is going to be relegated to the bargain bin, because that style identifies them as someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

    But I suppose if you do it deliberately, it could be a converstation starter (what on earth are you wearing? take those shoes off before you ruin them ... :P )


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wondering are things reverting a bit, I see an awful lot of young people in serious relationships met in college stayed together its seems to be far more common than in the past no sense that they are missing out on anything. The one thing that is different is that they are often together 10/15 years before they marry or have children.

    Despite the snowflake bit a lot of young people are very mautre and very clear eyed about what they want from life.

    We have very low divorce rates in Ireland.


  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    You're right.

    But like... there's more to it than that.

    I've kissed probably 500 women. I don't think that's an age thing.

    I'm gonna sleep soon.

    I'm an older gentleman too. Women don't test men who can kiss 500 women. Do you think George Clooney or Brad Pitt get tested?

    The rest of us they test, some more than others.

    Depending what you look like and how popular and fun you are, women treat you WAY differently. Men do it too with women.

    I've been somewhere in between so have seen both sides of the coin.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Wondering are things reverting a bit, I see an awful lot of young people in serious relationships met in college stayed together its seems to be far more common than in the past no sense that they are missing out on anything. The one thing that is different is that they are often together 10/15 years before they marry or have children.
    Ditto M, though I'd that the "in the past" part is more about a bit of a blip towards American style "dating" stuff that peaked a few years ago and we're reverting more to type. Looking at my age group peers(now hitting 50), a goodly chunk of them followed what you describe and those that didn't were pretty much "settled" with someone by 30-35.
    We have very low divorce rates in Ireland.
    Very much so. When you hear read some people going on about marriage and the risks they're either channeling their own story where things did go wrong(which is understandable) or they're channeling more of the imported from America gender war BS using American stats. Even when you look at American stats, yes their divorce rate is much higher, but it's still nowhere near the panic levels that many especially online like to trumpet(and varies depending on where and what culture you belong to in America). America is a different culture in so many ways and so many ways doesn't reflect our own. Certainly the mating/dating stuff is quite different. Too many seem to forget that. That said I can understand why some American men are wary of getting married over there as the divorce laws overwhelmingly favour women. Sometimes to the point of farce.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,007 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Have you ever been teased by a woman for something you where wearing or your height or whatever or some personal interest that she thought was a bit lame?

    That's testing, it's to see if you are secure in yourself. An insecure man will get offended and in a huff, a man completley comfortable in his own skin won't give a toss.

    Guess which one is the most attractive.

    Em, she's not testing you, she wanted to talk to you!

    I have a feckin' class Hugo Boss leather jacket, I mean it rocks, my sexy appeal is amplified in the damn thing. The amount of times women have come up to me and asked where the bike is parked.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is teasing and ribbing and sarcasm and irony and more in my conversations with people of all ages and genders. Can not say any more or less of it has ever happened with romantic interests than anyone else. Sounds like we are just taking something that happens often - especially in Ireland where piss taking is part of the culture - and only noticing it when it fits a narrative that has been invented out of nowhere.

    Still can not say I am interested in the post a few posts above from the user who essentially wants all guys to be clones of each other all wearing exactly the same thing. Imaging if tomorrow all guys wore dark clothes - and only shoes or two specially exempted sneakers.

    Be a boring world to be living in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,663 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Maybe they meant - go for it - get the seven cats.

    I'm allergic. That's my only issue there and the little sh*ts know it as well.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Have you ever been teased by a woman for something you where wearing or your height or whatever or some personal interest that she thought was a bit lame?

    That's testing, it's to see if you are secure in yourself. An insecure man will get offended and in a huff, a man completley comfortable in his own skin won't give a toss.

    Guess which one is the most attractive.

    A wise man once said a woman will test you as naturally as they breathe.... You try that the other way around and see how quick you're given your matching orders


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    There is teasing and ribbing and sarcasm and irony and more in my conversations with people of all ages and genders. Can not say any more or less of it has ever happened with romantic interests than anyone else. Sounds like we are just taking something that happens often - especially in Ireland where piss taking is part of the culture - and only noticing it when it fits a narrative that has been invented out of nowhere.

    Still can not say I am interested in the post a few posts above from the user who essentially wants all guys to be clones of each other all wearing exactly the same thing. Imaging if tomorrow all guys wore dark clothes - and only shoes or two specially exempted sneakers.

    Be a boring world to be living in.

    It's more than just piss taking though, testing is not the same as having a laugh or getting a rise out of one of your mates down the pub


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Perhaps you could consciously uncouple yourself from this thread.
    I watched that vid and oooooh boy... Imagine some poor young lad who's a bit clueless socially or just nervous. Bloody hell. Recipe for disaster. Though it is worrying that an audience exists for this stuff. Clearly it does.

    Never mind that these videos all look like some amway/timeshare/religious pyramid scheme done by some lad who did a course on corporate videos. With of course all the marketing stuff thrown in with free vids to get the seeker/sucker sucked in ever deeper until it's only 29.99 to get the Secret Course tailored for you and you alone that will Unlock All Women™©

    And yeah, the rereg stuff looks worryingly obsessive.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Novalee Late Test


    kowloon wrote: »
    The epidode where most of the men have been killed and the remainder are sent to breeding centres?

    i totally forgot about that. fresh princess of bel air!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Feisar wrote: »
    Em, she's not testing you, she wanted to talk to you!

    I have a feckin' class Hugo Boss leather jacket, I mean it rocks, my sexy appeal is amplified in the damn thing. The amount of times women have come up to me and asked where the bike is parked.

    I saw a guy chatting to a young wan outside a pub in Dublin pretending my bike was his. That bike probably did more for him than it ever did for me, in that respect.
    I reckon if somone likes you and you have a nice bike, car or whatever it makes you more attractive to them, but if they've taken is dislike to you they only dislike you more in a 'look at that prick thinking he's great with his bike' kind of way.
    My point being: Having a nice bike, car etc. is not usually what attracts people to begin with. I'm sure there are some really superficial people out there, but I don't think it's true for the vast majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Nearly 33.

    Still a virgin
    Never had a girlfriend
    Never been kissed
    Never held hands with a girl
    Never had a female friend

    Its fair to say I'm a bit of a friggin weirdo, good chance I may die this way too. :eek:

    Although reading through this thread there is a part of me that feels I'm relieved to have avoided some of this and the harsh world of dating in general. There is this urge to be in relationships and to be having sex because its 'normal' to do so but there's no guarantee of it ever bringing you happiness and often for a lot of people it brings the very opposite.

    I have mixed feelings about whether my situation is actually all that bad or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭DColeman


    From watching people I know I think it's quite possible that many women don't want babies, marriage etc ever, maybe even a majority of them.

    Studies have shown the vast majority of people, both sexes, want children.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/164618/desire-children-norm.aspx


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  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jimjangles wrote: »
    How is a man supposed to find a woman in the 21st century

    I was listening to the 2002 Tommy Tiernan interview with the philosopher John Moriarity (1938-2007), that was linked to an article in The Irish Times last week - The greatest Irish thinker you’ve never read? It could be this man.

    In that interview Moriarity talks about finding more love and meaning in looking out the window down in Kerry and seeing the shape of the landscape. Watch that coffee splutter! The solitude of his later existence in life gave him more meaning than those gorgeous women he met in London and Dublin in the 1970s. While you may not agree with him, there's loads of food for thought in his understanding of things. It takes just a spark of an idea to get us thinking freshly about life.

    Anyway, if I were back in my courting days I'd be joining clubs or classes that I'm interested in. Even if you're not mad into fitness you could join a hillwalking club and you're automatically filtering out people who aren't into an active lifestyle. The Meet Up events could be very good, too. Just find your interests, don't sound desperate, focus on improving yourself first and your reality will slowly change when you least expect it. Also, don't forget to have fun.


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