UEFA Champions League Final Totteham V Liverpool -Saturday 1st June - VM 1/BT Sport 2

UrbanFret · 02-06-2019 04:41PM

citytillidie wrote: »

and yet a team who was so far ahead of those two finalist could not reach the final themselves

It's a cup competition so anything can happen. They should change it's name as it isn't a "Champions" League in reality.

Augme · 02-06-2019 04:42PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

. The Champions league has become diluted and devalued

It's the complete opposite actually. By expanding the competition it has increased it value and the achievement of winning it.

Winning the champions league if it was just the winners of the leagues in Europe would be much easier to do.

8-10 · 02-06-2019 04:42PM

https://youtu.be/T4v3zQj8ZkI

Parading the trophy through Liverpool

I still can’t believe it. I can no longer count on one hand how many times we’ve won the European Cup. We didn’t sell our soul at halftime in Istanbul

We’re back. And we’re playing Chelsea in Istanbul for the Super Cup. And we’re first seeds in the Champions League next season after being THIRD seeds this year and winning it. And the final is in Istanbul next season and we’re favourites

Holy ****

I’ve started drinking again here in Madrid and just watched the full match replay in a bar, plenty of fans still around

citytillidie · 02-06-2019 04:43PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

It's a cup competition so anything can happen. They should change it's name as it isn't a "Champions" League in reality.

Yep no League one or two cannon fodder to beat for City

8-10 · 02-06-2019 04:51PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

It's a cup competition so anything can happen. They should change it's name as it isn't a "Champions" League in reality.

Call it whatever you want, it’s always been the European Cup, for the Champions of Europe, and we’ve won it 6 times

Dare I say it this feels better than 2005

Turtyturd · 02-06-2019 05:00PM

Champions of Europe on the front of the bus...mortified.

YNWA.

LuckyLloyd · 02-06-2019 05:16PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

Perhaps , However the fans themselves aren't all that concerned about it.

Hahahaha
Amazing

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 05:29PM

IncognitoMan wrote: »

This kind of stuff is only going to put people off LOI even more. You are doing more damage with this high horse ****e.

It is not high horse shít I follow sport, I don't get all this head in the sand stuff there is in Ireland. Do people not just enjoy soccer/sport for sports sake?
Or does it have to be jazzed /hyped up for anyone to take interest? With a manufactured association to it in places like Ireland. It does not seem authentic to me. A bit artificial.

The marketers seem to have won?

Anyway Klopp is a fairly decent singer well done to the fella -

https://twitter.com/i/status/1134943992532078594

It was also nice to see some others made it a family occasion -

Ronan|Raven · 02-06-2019 05:37PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am glad I am not alone in thinking it is all a bit strange.

Here is a synopsis of why Irish people support English clubs from 2016

https://www.balls.ie/football/irish-...-353235-353235

I think they should have went into more detail on the Liverpool - Man United sections.

About 10 years of age during successful years - or failing that, thier father supported them.

I am surprised Arsenal does not get a mention - glory years recently - plus 80's on Brady - Stapelton - O'Leary.

IMO I think nearly all Irish fans of English teams are glory hunters or at least consumers of a brand. It feels wrong to call them supporters. Consumers is the probably the best word.

It is a strange phenomenon to me, when watching all the overweight lads with beer guts in Liverpool jerseys in the pub - hands in the air.
It occurred to me this is probably happening in the Nordic countries, Africa, USA, Asia etc.
I did not see any Spurs jerseys I suppose give it 10/15 years....

I just found it a bit odd that it is seen as the 'norm' with all these wobbly beer guts, sweat rolling off them, hands in the air wearing a jersey from a foreign land.

But sure if people are happy let them at it.

Im a sweaty beer bellied male who is over the moon Liverpool have won. I am also a sweaty beer bellied male who spends thousands over the years going to LOI games..

IncognitoMan · 02-06-2019 05:45PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

IMO I think nearly all Irish fans of English teams are glory hunters or at least consumers of a brand. It feels wrong to call them supporters. Consumers is the probably the best word.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is not high horse shít I follow sport, I don't get all this head in the sand stuff there is in Ireland. Do people not just enjoy soccer/sport for sports sake?
Or does it have to be jazzed /hyped up for anyone to take interest?

The marketers seem to have won?

You are the definition of someone on a high horse

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 05:54PM

IncognitoMan wrote: »

You are the definition of someone on a high horse

I am just stating facts as I see them I follow sport, but I don't get the artificial sense of belonging that foreign clubs manage to get others to tap into.

For instance Barcelona style themselves as more than a club. Liverpool the same. Is that being on a high horse? More than a club???
I mean a crowd singing you'll never walk alone is styled as something out of the ordinary.
It is just a crowd singing a catchy song. No different to any other teams catchy song.

Yet somehow people in Ireland and even further flung lands from those brands really identify with those brands. While at the same time belittling clubs in thier own backyard.
I am sure the marketers of the big brands/clubs find it magical.

I mean I can understand Livepool Locals and Spurs locals really getting involved in yesterdays game it is thier community thier teams.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 02-06-2019 05:56PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am glad I am not alone in thinking it is all a bit strange.

Here is a synopsis of why Irish people support English clubs from 2016

https://www.balls.ie/football/irish-...-353235-353235

I think they should have went into more detail on the Liverpool - Man United sections.

About 10 years of age during successful years - or failing that, thier father supported them.

I am surprised Arsenal does not get a mention - glory years recently - plus 80's on Brady - Stapelton - O'Leary.

IMO I think nearly all Irish fans of English teams are glory hunters or at least consumers of a brand. It feels wrong to call them supporters. Consumers is the probably the best word.

It is a strange phenomenon to me, when watching all the overweight lads with beer guts in Liverpool jerseys in the pub - hands in the air.
It occurred to me this is probably happening in the Nordic countries, Africa, USA, Asia etc.
I did not see any Spurs jerseys I suppose give it 10/15 years....

I just found it a bit odd that it is seen as the 'norm' with all these wobbly beer guts, sweat rolling off them, hands in the air wearing a jersey from a foreign land.

But sure if people are happy let them at it.

These type of pathetic posts crop up ever now and then.
“I don’t know why people support teams in Eng”.
Can we only wear clothes made in Ireland, drink only alcohol brewed locally, drive an ass and cart cause we don’t make our own cars?
Maybe you should only write in Irish rather than use a foreign language?
Imagine not eating your bacon and cabbage and eating that foreign Chinese stuff instead!! Pearse must be rolling in his grave!!

Here’s what odd. Giving a ****e what other people do with their own time/money/life.

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 06:01PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

These type of pathetic posts crop up ever now and then.
“I don’t know why people support teams in Eng”.
Can we only wear clothes made in Ireland, drink only alcohol brewed locally, drive an ass and cart cause we don’t make our own cars?
Maybe you should only write in Irish rather than use a foreign language?
Imagine not eating your bacon and cabbage and eating that foreign Chinese stuff instead!! Pearse must be rolling in his grave!!

Here’s what odd. Giving a ****e what other people do with their own time/money/life.

It is nothing to do with Pearse this is a worldwide phenomenon Ireland v England.
It is all about branding consumerism.
A creation of a false association.
Even to the extent of putting on the fake accents for some.'Cuuu-on uuuuh-spuoooors' 'Liv-er-puool' etc etc.

My brother's father in law (an Englishman) was shocked at the amount of Premier League articles in the Irish newspapers, he asked where are your own sports stories? I thought - he has a point!

j8wk2feszrnpao · 02-06-2019 06:11PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is all about branding consumerism.

It’s about building a connection, which the LOI doesn’t do. Tell that to your brothers father in law, who must be amazed that you use the Queens language rather than your own.

ERG89 · 02-06-2019 06:14PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

My brothers father in law (an Englishman) was shocked at the amount of Premier League articles in the Irish newspapers, he asked where are your own sports stories? I thought - he has a point!

Honestly most Irish sport if its reported on its usually not interesting stories unless they are thrashing a side. This morning I was reading about Dublin's drive to five and Mayo's championship troubles(you could have been writing similar stories in 2016). The 2 Munster hurling games today were f**king sh!t to watch & I normally enjoy watching hurling.
The rugby I often find the coverage lean towards basically fluff pieces & rarely do they look at it objectively until it's far too late.

omega man · 02-06-2019 06:16PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

It’s about building a connection, which the LOI doesn’t do. Tell that to your brothers father in law, who must be amazed that you use the Queens language rather than your own.

A connection within their respective communities yes but not in other countries unless it’s related to commercial activities.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 02-06-2019 06:20PM

omega man wrote: »

A connection within their respective communities yes but not in other countries unless it’s related to commercial activities.

If you don’t get it, then move on, cause you never will.
Haven’t bought a Liverpool jersey in 20 years. Overjoyed from last night; it’s a connection.

The Good Ole Boys · 02-06-2019 06:23PM

It is a good day to be a Liverpool fan. The jealous posting on here makes it even better

02-06-2019 06:25PM

Looking forward to watching the whole game again.

omega man · 02-06-2019 06:30PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

If you don’t get it, then move on, cause you never will.
Haven’t bought a Liverpool jersey in 20 years. Overjoyed from last night; it’s a connection.

I’ve supported arsenal for 30 odd years but I don’t feel a strong connection with the club or north London. I’ve gotten great enjoyment from supporting them over the years (and a lot of disappointment!) and my young lad follows them too the poor thing! However it just can’t be compared to supporting your home / local team. That’s my only point. Not the the day to debate this so enjoy the moment.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 02-06-2019 06:40PM

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

It is a good day to be a Liverpool fan. The jealous posting on here makes it even better

I tend to immediately hide the haters and the trolls; they’re happy talking to themselves anyway

charolais0153 · 02-06-2019 06:45PM

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Looking forward to watching the whole game again.

Really? Drab, drab game with one moment of quality from origi and a few good saves

rob316 · 02-06-2019 07:09PM

Rewatched it earlier, very poor spectacle but the notion Spurs were the better team was simply false. Speaks volumes for the difference in quality when Spurs just couldn't land a glove on a well below par Liverpool. Bar a few shots around 75 mins they did nothing to trouble Liverpool.
Granted the game plan went out the window for both teams after a minute but that was as comfortable a game for Liverpool I can remember.

Last year's final was more of a contest than this.

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 07:14PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

It’s about building a connection, which the LOI doesn’t do. Tell that to your brothers father in law, who must be amazed that you use the Queens language rather than your own.

But isn't an artificial connection? - Example - Liverpool FC represents a team from the City of Liverpool - the community there etc.
Those from outside are more followers of the 'brand' people who wish to be associated with the brand. Of course Liverpool are more than willing to keep this brand-name going, which is why they have friendlies in the USA, Asia, Ireland. They don't mind where they get thier money from.
It seems artificial to me anyway, a stage managed money making job.
Before a friendly in Dublin - Klopp once described Dublin as an LFC city! :rolleyes:

PS* I can converse in either language, written and reading not great though.

02-06-2019 07:16PM

Loving this parade. Great scenes.

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 07:17PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Really? Drab, drab game with one moment of quality from origi and a few good saves

The semi finals are the games to re-watch surely?
Unforgettable stuff people will be talking about those games for many years to come.
Most will forget this final, and just remember Liverpool won.
Origi will be the answer in a quiz question that people will struggle to remember.

5starpool · 02-06-2019 07:18PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

But isn't an artificial connection? - Example - Liverpool FC represents a team from the City of Liverpool - the community there etc.
Those from outside are more followers of the 'brand' people who wish to be associated with the brand. Of course Liverpool are more than willing to keep this brand-name going, which is why they have friendlies in the USA, Asia, Ireland. They don't mind where they get thier money from.
It seems artificial to me anyway, a stage managed money making job.
Before a friendly in Dublin - Klopp once described Dublin as an LFC city! :rolleyes:

PS* I can converse in either language, written and reading not great though.

I'm not sure why you are wasting valuable minutes of your life with this line of posting, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 02-06-2019 07:20PM

5starpool wrote: »

I'm not sure why you are wasting valuable minutes of your life with this line of posting, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

And he’s still using the Queens language rather than his native one. The guys full of contradictions.

cj maxx · 02-06-2019 07:22PM

5starpool wrote: »

I'm not sure why you are wasting valuable minutes of your life with this line of posting, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

Have you not changed your name yet 5star ??

gormdubhgorm · 02-06-2019 07:23PM

5starpool wrote: »

I'm not sure why you are wasting valuable minutes of your life with this line of posting, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

Just answering posts directed at me, and trying to explain my opinion - but obviously - it is too close to the bone for some - plus not the time or place.

I suppose I was unwise to respond to another poster's post on here (where s/he mentioned fireworks and Irish people supporting English teams)

UEFA Champions League Final Totteham V Liverpool -Saturday 1st June - VM 1/BT Sport 2

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