The 70's and 80's in Ireland

Seanachai · 30-05-2019 04:09PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

yes, but is it white?

I'll get my coat, my rage towards the dog s**t situation has blinded me to detail

ohnonotgmail · 30-05-2019 04:14PM

farmchoice wrote: »

it was brilliant and joyous and it primed the pump for 1990. the day we beat England!! the 12th of June 1988 ill never forget it it was the day idid my confirmation and i refused to go out to a restaurant for something to eat, i had to go home to watch it.

then afterwards everyone was mad for Jackie Charlton and the team every qualifying game was followed so it just built and built for italy.
the qualifying home games were always on a wedensday afternoon because there were no floodlights in lansdowne road at the time. so everyone would be trying to get off school. the principle took to making up spurious reason to have half days!! i think we were only school for one of them!!

I remember being very drunk in a bar that is no longer there.

branie2 · 30-05-2019 04:24PM

Remember the Mexico 86 stickers?

farmchoice · 30-05-2019 04:41PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpKM4JPzeGQ

Joxer goes to Stuttgart sums up the whole thing.

''that day will be the highlight of many peoples lives''

the live version is particularly good just for the cheer that goes up when ''ray Houghton stuck it in the net''

ArnoldJRimmer · 30-05-2019 04:48PM

farmchoice wrote: »

it was brilliant and joyous and it primed the pump for 1990. the day we beat England!! the 12th of June 1988 ill never forget it it was the day idid my confirmation and i refused to go out to a restaurant for something to eat, i had to go home to watch it.

then afterwards everyone was mad for Jackie Charlton and the team every qualifying game was followed so it just built and built for italy.
the qualifying home games were always on a wedensday afternoon because there were no floodlights in lansdowne road at the time. so everyone would be trying to get off school. the principle took to making up spurious reason to have half days!! i think we were only school for one of them!!

The principal in our school used to put the match on the radio over the intercom so everyone could listen to the games. Or sometimes the first half, with the second half at home

I also remember that when Ireland were playing Italy in the quarter final of Italia 90, the game was on at 8pm on a Saturday night. The priest had half seven mass said in under 20 mins so he could get home for the match

DEFTLEFTHAND · 30-05-2019 04:55PM

I wish I'd been old enough to experience all that. My father has told me our town was crazy, men took off work and went on week long benders, he remembers fellas driving cars on the footpath blind drunk.

It didn't end well though, there was a mass brawl in the local hotel the night Italy knocked us out.

Mad_maxx · 30-05-2019 05:31PM

branie2 wrote: »

Dermot Morgan played a host in the film who introduced a stripper act.

Was the stripper twink :eek: or was twink just a barmaid?, she was in it anyway

branie2 · 30-05-2019 05:45PM

The stripper wasn't Twink

Cryptopagan · 30-05-2019 05:57PM

I love 90s nostalgia until it gets to all that Jacks Army stuff. The 90s was a decade when Ireland was slowly liberalizing, the economy was finally moving, we were opening up to immigration and tolerance, when Seamus Heaney became a Nobel Laureate and Father Ted satirized the stifling Catholic orthodoxy that was passing into history. And then you’ve got a football team managed by a dour Englishman that play a notoriously negative game being feted as some kind of high point.

SharpshooterTom · 30-05-2019 06:10PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

I love 90s nostalgia until it gets to all that Jacks Army stuff. The 90s was a decade when Ireland was slowly liberalizing, the economy was finally moving, we were opening up to immigration and tolerance, when Seamus Heaney became a Nobel Laureate and Father Ted satirized the stifling Catholic orthodoxy that was passing into history. And then you’ve got a football team managed by a dour Englishman that play a notoriously negative game being feted as some kind of high point.

Is that not understandable? He qualified Ireland for 3 tournaments in the space of just 6 years getting them to the QF (which they've never equaled since) and they had a lot of iconic players, compare that to some of the crap that an Ireland manager has to work with nowadays.

Yeah the football was crap, but no one has rivaled his achievements since. Pride in the Rugby team has taken over.

Heroditas · 30-05-2019 06:49PM

farmchoice wrote: »

it was brilliant and joyous and it primed the pump for 1990. the day we beat England!! the 12th of June 1988 ill never forget it it was the day idid my confirmation and i refused to go out to a restaurant for something to eat, i had to go home to watch it.

then afterwards everyone was mad for Jackie Charlton and the team every qualifying game was followed so it just built and built for italy.
the qualifying home games were always on a wedensday afternoon because there were no floodlights in lansdowne road at the time. so everyone would be trying to get off school. the principle took to making up spurious reason to have half days!! i think we were only school for one of them!!

Yeah I'm around the same vintage as you and that all rings very true for me.
We used to have half days on Wednesdays so I always got to see the home games. Malta and Hungary were on at the weekend though, just after the Hillsborough disaster. I think some of the Liverpool players missed the Malta game because they had been playing a couple of days previously
Sure, the football wasn't pretty but Ireland were appearing on the global stage and it instilled massive national pride in people.
Funnily enough, I preferred the older format Euros with fewer teams. It was such an accomplishment to even get there and the quality was also better because the vast majority of teams were strong. Amazing to think that Croatia, Armenia, Ukraine etc didn't exist then!

Edgware · 30-05-2019 06:50PM

farmchoice wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpKM4JPzeGQ

Joxer goes to Stuttgart sums up the whole thing.

''that day will be the highlight of many peoples lives''

the live version is particularly good just for the cheer that goes up when ''ray Houghton stuck it in the net''

Pathetic lives if thats the case

SharpshooterTom · 30-05-2019 06:52PM

Edgware wrote: »

Pathetic lives if thats the case

Beating England (who I think went as favourites) in one of the biggest sporting competitions in the world?

'Sporting highlights' would be more appropriate I think.

Hotblack Desiato · 30-05-2019 07:08PM

Edgware wrote: »

Pathetic lives if thats the case

It's a f**king song.
NB Bryan Adams doesn't really want to run to you, either.

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 07:23PM

I spent most of my teen years in the 80's and I have nothing but happy memories. I firmly believe that most people from Dublin have better memories because it was far ahead of the rest of the country, while far behind a lot of other European cities. I have no memories of all this doom and gloom people talk about, not that it wasn't like that in some parts. I wasn't from a wealthy family either.

If you were an adult in the 80's I suppose it was different. The work situation, particularly outside Dublin and other cities was bleak. I came to appreciate that in the early 90's when I knew loads emigrating after we finished college. For me, the Church had no influence on me after the age of 13. We actually had sex in our teens too.:eek: We even had cable TV. In fact all my life from my first memory of TV we had RTE and the English channels. Playschool, Rainbow, Blue Peter, Magpie, Corrie etc. Being off school sick in the 70's and watching Mr. Benn and Trumpton at lunchtime. I think the main problem with 70's/80's Ireland was outside Dublin.

EmmetSpiceland · 30-05-2019 07:29PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I spent most of my teen years in the 80's and I have nothing but happy memories. I firmly believe that most people from Dublin have better memories because it was far ahead of the rest of the country, while far behind a lot of other European cities. I have no memories of all this doom and gloom people talk about, not that it wasn't like that in some parts. I wasn't from a wealthy family either.

If you were an adult in the 80's I suppose it was different. The work situation, particularly outside Dublin and other cities was bleak. I came to appreciate that in the early 90's when I knew loads emigrating after we finished college. For me, the Church had no influence on me after the age of 13. We actually had sex in our teens too.:eek: We even had cable TV. In fact all my life from my first memory of TV we had RTE and the English channels. Playschool, Rainbow, Blue Peter, Magpie, Corrie etc. Being off school sick in the 70's and watching Mr. Benn and Trumpton at lunchtime. I think the main problem with 70's/80's Ireland was outside Dublin.

People from the country, especially older ones, are always going on about Dublin like it’s the “last days of the Roman Empire”.

Never anything nice to say. They’re particularly harsh on the people. I’m guessing it stems from jealousy and an inability to compete with the Dublin wit.

Baybay · 30-05-2019 07:31PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I spent most of my teen years in the 80's and I have nothing but happy memories. I firmly believe that most people from Dublin have better memories because it was far ahead of the rest of the country, while far behind a lot of other European cities... I think the main problem with 70's/80's Ireland was outside Dublin.

I think if you look at some of the earlier posts in this thread, Dublin did not have a monopoly on relatively doom free years for some other teenagers & some grew up nowhere near Dublin!

Edgware · 30-05-2019 07:44PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

People from the country, especially older ones, are always going on about Dublin like it’s the “last days of the Roman Empire”.

Never anything nice to say. They’re particularly harsh on the people. I’m guessing it stems from jealousy and an inability to compete with the Dublin wit.

Ya. Really jealous of those tenements and gob****e comedians

FatherTed · 30-05-2019 07:53PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I spent most of my teen years in the 80's and I have nothing but happy memories. I firmly believe that most people from Dublin have better memories because it was far ahead of the rest of the country, while far behind a lot of other European cities. I have no memories of all this doom and gloom people talk about, not that it wasn't like that in some parts. I wasn't from a wealthy family either.

If you were an adult in the 80's I suppose it was different. The work situation, particularly outside Dublin and other cities was bleak. I came to appreciate that in the early 90's when I knew loads emigrating after we finished college. For me, the Church had no influence on me after the age of 13. We actually had sex in our teens too.:eek: We even had cable TV. In fact all my life from my first memory of TV we had RTE and the English channels. Playschool, Rainbow, Blue Peter, Magpie, Corrie etc. Being off school sick in the 70's and watching Mr. Benn and Trumpton at lunchtime. I think the main problem with 70's/80's Ireland was outside Dublin.

I'm from down the country and I remember being envious of some friends who had this special antenna mounted on the chimney of their house that could receive the UK channels if pointed correctly towards the North. They'd be going on about blue peter or whatever and how great it was and how RTE was pure muck. So we badgered my Dad to get one and he finally relented and got one and put it up. Sure enough we got English sounding noise coming from the television but could barely see anything the reception was so bad. But us kids persisted watching the snowy television anyway so we could yap on about it with our friends at school the next day.

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 08:00PM

Baybay wrote: »

I think if you look at some of the earlier posts in this thread, Dublin did not have a monopoly on relatively doom free years for some other teenagers & some grew up nowhere near Dublin!

Ah I know that. But outside of major towns and cities is where I believe most of the doom and gloom comes from. That said there were many towns that had absolutely nothing going for them either. I met many in College that never had any TV channels beyond RTE 1/2 growing up. The local cinema was a run down kip with limited selection. But sure look, even after all these years and a so called boom, many many towns are no better off than the 80's. Some would say they are worse now.

Cryptopagan · 30-05-2019 09:02PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

We actually had sex in our teens too.:eek:

Where’d you get the johnnies?

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 09:07PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Where’d you get the johnnies?

Stole them off our parents. FACT!

4ensic15 · 30-05-2019 09:16PM

topper75 wrote: »

I can't pretty up unemployment for anyone.

But the high rates meant little or no speculation in the housing side of things.

If you did get that job, then a house would follow. The mortgage deposit % wasn't as rigourous something like 10%. Yes the monthly repayments would be rough. But it was at least ATTAINABLE. Big difference to today.

It is pointless looking back at a historical period saying Oh they had no X like we have today. We didn't know about it back then, and what you don't know ...

An Irish CB ran the rate for the punt. It was a currency/rate for OUR economy, not for a depressed German banking sector or a roaring Parisian property market. It was ours. By us, for us.
And our politicians gave that away without ever asking us.

I don't know what decade you are talking about but it is not the 70's. Ireland had sterling throughout the 70s. the British Pound or GBP. Interest rates were decided in London. Deposits for houses were 20%. Repayments were cheap because there was mortgage interest relief in full and wages went up every few months due to high inflation.

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 09:35PM

4ensic15 wrote: »

I don't know what decade you are talking about but it is not the 70's. Ireland had sterling throughout the 70s. the British Pound or GBP. Interest rates were decided in London. Deposits for houses were 20%. Repayments were cheap because there was mortgage interest relief in full and wages went up every few months due to high inflation.

Have you ever read;

Diarmaid Ferriter’s book, Ambiguous Republic: Ireland in the 1970s?

4ensic15 · 30-05-2019 09:36PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Have you ever read;

Diarmaid Ferriter’s book, Ambiguous Republic: Ireland in the 1970s?

What of it?

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 09:44PM

4ensic15 wrote: »

What of it?

Worth a read. Could inform you.

4ensic15 · 30-05-2019 09:44PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Worth a read. Could inform you.

Of what?

Grandeeod · 30-05-2019 09:46PM

Buying a house in the 1970's.

4ensic15 · 30-05-2019 09:47PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Buying a house in the 1970's.

I remember the 70's. I don't need to read books about it.

Mam of 4 · 30-05-2019 09:52PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Where’d you get the johnnies?

The ads section in the Sunday World used to have a P.O.Box number where people could send off for condoms , when it was impossible to buy them anywhere !
(Or illegal , dunno which )

The 70's and 80's in Ireland

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