Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

Uncharted · 27-04-2019 05:43PM

Just seen Endgame.
A good solid movie,imo about 20 mins too long. Felt a little padded with ott saccharine guff.

Some nice touches,with well timed cameos and familial interludes.

The battle was woefully underwhelming though , and not a patch on Avengers assemble fight scenes.

I enjoyed it but it's not as amazing as it could have been,and certainly not befitting the grand finale hyperbole train buzz .

All in all,a good movie.

One viewing is enough.

7/10.

kerplun k · 27-04-2019 05:45PM

AMKC wrote: »

I agree. It was a great show and deserved to get more than one 1 season..

I think it got 2.

27-04-2019 05:49PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

8/10 for me. My main issue was the time heist section in the middle was a little dull. The girl power scene was eye-rolling but not enough to dock a point.

Overall it was a fitting climax and suitably heroic.

Yeah in the grand scheme it was an annoyance nothing more

marklazarcovic · 27-04-2019 05:50PM

Loved the quill and Thor "who's the captain now" scene ..

Hilarious.

branie2 · 27-04-2019 06:44PM

I saw it this evening, and I thought it was brilliant

pah · 27-04-2019 07:27PM

Just out of a second viewing. Enjoyed it more this time. Combination of better screen and sound and a better crowd too. The lad in front of me was literally on the edge of his seat for a lot of it. Let out a massive whoop as moljnir flew towards Cap's hand and kicked off the applause at the end. Took 4 kids with me 15, 11, 8 and 6 they all loved it, shed some tears though.

Epic.

Riddle101 · 27-04-2019 07:34PM

Watched it today and I absolutely loved the movie. Impressed me so much I going to go see it again in another week or two. I think it's the best movie of them all.

flazio · 27-04-2019 09:13PM

kerplun k wrote: »

I think it got 2.

It did and ended on an annoying cliff hanger.
They didn't even print a follow-up comic.

27-04-2019 09:40PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

The fact that posters are implying, in some instances just stating, that having powerful female characters, having 3 on screen at the same time with no men during a battle scene, or having Wakandans at all is some form of tokenism that they are gracious enough to be ok with really says a lot.

Everyone is actually saying the opposite

pjohnson · 27-04-2019 10:07PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Again, I don’t disagree with most of that (though I found the group shots in Avengers and AoU just as labored), but my point is that the need some feel to comment on it far outweighs the ‘bugging’ the 10 second slot caused or deserved.

I don’t remember a consistent complaint after the original Spiderman movie being that flag scene. People just accepted it as 10 seconds of forced pandering during a movie they enjoyed and moved on, whereas in our current climate and because it is a group of women it looks like many feel the need to push back on it.

And you feel the need to repeatedly try to complain that people have issue solely because it was women involved it was just jarring. Simple as.

bur · 27-04-2019 10:12PM

Slydice wrote: »

USA money is on the board!

Day 3: $643 Million
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel2019.htm

Now at position 3 on the 2019 board:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2019&p=.htm

All-Time Worldwide. Position 131:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/?pagenum=2&p=.htm

Can it do a billion in one weekend? :eek: Is that even possible?

Yes it's going to make all the money. who cares?

AMKC · 27-04-2019 10:23PM

kerplun k wrote: »

I think it got 2.

Your right it did. It deserved a few more seasons.

flazio wrote: »

It did and ended on an annoying cliff hanger.
They didn't even print a follow-up comic.

Yes your right. Been a while since I seen it but always looked forward to each episode. It deserved more seasons.

santana75 · 28-04-2019 12:00AM

Have to say, I really enjoyed that. My expectations going into this movie though where rock bottom, right down in the bargain basememt. Had been burned too many times in the past by the Marvel hype machine(Blank panther and captain marvel where just awful films). This time I wasnt getting sucked in by inflated RT scores or fan boys losing the run of themselves on twitter. But 10mins into this I knew it was actually gonna be enjoyable. 3 hours flew by which says a lot about how well paced and well made it was. And it has to be said, even just from a logistical point of view, the scale of the film making has to be respected. Best part for me though was Thor as Jeff Lebowski. Hilarious. Actually couldve watched an entire film with just Thor as The dude, nothing else required. Well maybe Jeff Goldblum as the grand master thrown into the mix aswell.
Didnt really buy into the faux emotional stuff(there were people crying in the cinema which i have to say I rolled my eyes at). But it was a proper good adventure all the same.
For my money Spiderman into the spider verse is still the best super hero film ever made, and Endgame is not up to that standard, but its still a really enjoyable movie which by all reports has had the biggest opening weekend in history.

Agent Coulson · 28-04-2019 01:04AM

bur wrote: »

Yes it's going to make all the money. who cares?

Plenty care.

You don't and that's fine but there are those who do.

So there you go plenty care.

Mokuba · 28-04-2019 01:16AM

The time travel in this movie is absolutely terribly done. (The rules or changes or alternate realities or whatever theory somebody comes up with to explain the hokeyness). Holes all over the place.

Power levels are way off in this movie. Thanos with no gauntlet is almost as strong as Thanos with the gauntlet. Thor managed to almost kill a full infinity gauntlet Thanos with one superpowered weapon, yet with 2 superpowered weapons he gets destroyed by a Thanos with no gauntlet? Why, because he is fat now? Not having that.

Thor being made fat is something which wore thin very quickly after the initial joke. They took a character with a great and powerful arc in Infinity War and turned him into a joke.

Captain Marvel is ridiculously overpowered.

"Good" Nebula sent one of Natasha or Clint to their deaths. Convenient that they sent the only two people who actually love each other to Vormir. Imagine if they had sent Rocket and Ant-Man, might have been awkward.

Why did Gamora run away? Regardless of her not knowing Quill, very odd that she would run off without spending more time with good Nebula!

Overheal · 28-04-2019 01:19AM

Saw it again in IMAX 3D in a packed showing so the visuals and the atmosphere were all very much better. Theater roared at mjolnir, and several points during the last battle. Lot of sniffles at the end.

PTH2009 · 28-04-2019 02:39AM

Was cool knowing the battle of New York was being fought by others off camera with the ancient one fighting the aliens

pjohnson · 28-04-2019 08:14AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_mhWxOjxp4

Silvestri's score from the Avengers Assemble moment.

irish_stevo815 · 28-04-2019 09:02AM

Seen this yesterday evening and absolutely loved it.

What an emotional rollercoaster, I'm actually still not able to comprehend what I seen.

Went my partner and 13 year old daughter and it was the first time where all 3 of us were in tears watching a movie together. Just shows how invested you can get with these characters over the years.

The final battle scene was just mind blowing, I could not believe what I was seeing at times. Cap wielding Moljnier, "Avengers.....Assemble ", even seeing Spidey flying through the air behind Moljnier while holding onto the gauntlet was just a Wow moment for me.

When all the portals opened up to bring the snapped characters it was perfectly done too. We knew they were coming back but it worked so well this way.

In regards to Thanos, I think 2014 Thanos was a lot more menacing when he arrived at Avengers HQ as he was just about pure destruction rather than thinking he was doing right by restoring balance to the universe.

I will definitely need to watch it again, soon.

NuMarvel · 28-04-2019 09:30AM

Mokuba wrote: »

Power levels are way off in this movie. Thanos with no gauntlet is almost as strong as Thanos with the gauntlet. Thor managed to almost kill a full infinity gauntlet Thanos with one superpowered weapon, yet with 2 superpowered weapons he gets destroyed by a Thanos with no gauntlet? Why, because he is fat now? Not having that.

Thor had the element of surprise in IW, whereas Thanos was ready and waiting in Endgame. And don't forget that Thanos gave the Hulk the mother of all beat downs at the start of Infinity War. He can hold his own against the superpowered, even without using the stones.

Mokuba · 28-04-2019 09:39AM

NuMarvel wrote: »

Thor had the element of surprise in IW, whereas Thanos was ready and waiting in Endgame. And don't forget that Thanos gave the Hulk the mother of all beat downs at the start of Infinity War. He can hold his own against the superpowered, even without using the stones.

Thanos least had a stone when he did that.

And that was the same Hulk that lost to Thor with no weapon in the arena. Thor beat Hulk with a stick in Ragnarok.

No way you can realistically have Thor with two super-weapons get so easily defeated by Thanos with no stones, based on what we have already seen. Think they buffed and nerfed power levels in this movie with little regard for what was already established.

Mitch Connor · 28-04-2019 09:41AM

Mokuba wrote: »

Thanos least had a stone when he did that.

And that was the same Hulk that lost to Thor with no weapon in the arena. Thor beat Hulk with a stick in Ragnarok.

No way you can realistically have Thor with two super-weapons get so easily defeated by Thanos with no stones, based on what we have already seen. Think they buffed and nerfed power levels in this movie with little regard for what was already established.

Fat ass thor that hasn't be training or fighting, for seemingly 5 years.

This was not peak thor.

Mokuba · 28-04-2019 09:44AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Fat ass thor that hasn't be training or fighting, for seemingly 5 years.

This was not peak thor.

He had 2 of the most super-powered weapons in the universe vs no gauntlet. I don't care if he was 50 stone it was still a fight he should have won.

Mitch Connor · 28-04-2019 10:01AM

Mokuba wrote: »

He had 2 of the most super-powered weapons in the universe vs no gauntlet. I don't care if he was 50 stone it was still a fight he should have won.

Do stones make you stronger? They give powers, but do they make the holder more physically powerful?

Was Thanos kicking ass in IW not down to him being physically powerful and quick, abd then able to counter strange, for example, with counter powers.

Realestate · 28-04-2019 10:08AM

Don't forget Thanos has his own weapon which looked very powerful. Isn't Thanos supposed to be one of the most powerful beings in the universe even without the gauntlet?

Either way it would have been quite anti climactic if Thanos was easily defeated in the final battle scene.

Penn · 28-04-2019 10:14AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Do stones make you stronger? They give powers, but do they make the holder more physically powerful?

Was Thanos kicking ass in IW not down to him being physically powerful and quick, abd then able to counter strange, for example, with counter powers.

Thanos is powerful without the stones, and in the fight against Hulk in IW, he wasn't using the power stone (they established throughout the film that Thanos has to close his fist to activate/use any of the stones in the gauntlet, and they glow when he does). The power stone never glows when Thanos fights Hulk. Thanos is just that powerful.

Thor had both his hammers, and there were numerous shots of Thanos being hit and knocked about by both of them (whether by Thor or Cap), but in parts where Thanos is better able to defend himself, he does so.

I don't disagree some variances of people's powers and abilities were used, but I don't think any of them were so out of place as to be inexplicable.

NuMarvel · 28-04-2019 10:18AM

Mokuba wrote: »

Thanos least had a stone when he did that.

And that was the same Hulk that lost to Thor with no weapon in the arena. Thor beat Hulk with a stick in Ragnarok.

No way you can realistically have Thor with two super-weapons get so easily defeated by Thanos with no stones, based on what we have already seen. Think they buffed and nerfed power levels in this movie with little regard for what was already established.

Thanos had a stone in his fight against the Hulk, but didn't use it.

And I think what we've seen before makes Thanos's power levels plausible.

In IW, we had a super amped, just reborn Thor, out for vengeance, making a rapid, surprise attack against a Thanos who was just after a fight against Iron Man, Dr Strange, Spider-Man and the Guardians.

In Endgame, we had a PTSD suffering, out of shape Thor up against a battle ready, rested Thanos, who already knew from Nebula's files that Thor was the one who would kill a different version him.

In those circumstances, I think it's plausible that Thanos would hold his against Thor.

NuMarvel · 28-04-2019 10:23AM

Penn wrote: »

Thanos is powerful without the stones, and in the fight against Hulk in IW, he wasn't using the power stone (they established throughout the film that Thanos has to close his fist to activate/use any of the stones in the gauntlet, and they glow when he does). The power stone never glows when Thanos fights Hulk. Thanos is just that powerful.

Thor had both his hammers, and there were numerous shots of Thanos being hit and knocked about by both of them (whether by Thor or Cap), but in parts where Thanos is better able to defend himself, he does so.

I don't disagree some variances of people's powers and abilities were used, but I don't think any of them were so out of place as to be inexplicable.

The bit I rolled my eyes at was Thanos being able to spin his blade fast enough to deflect multiple energy beams traveling at the speed of light. But I can forgive a bit of licence with the laws of physics here and there.

RayCun · 28-04-2019 10:27AM

Could see Thanos holding his own against Thor, but not against Thor, Captain America and Iron Man at once. Would have made more sense if his lieutenants were in the fight too.

I mean, obviously, these are fictional characters, they are as strong as the plot requires. But sometimes the thumb on the scales is a little too visible, it's a little too clear that certain moments are being set up.

Gbear · 28-04-2019 10:51AM

NuMarvel wrote: »

The bit I rolled my eyes at was Thanos being able to spin his blade fast enough to deflect multiple energy beams traveling at the speed of light. But I can forgive a bit of licence with the laws of physics here and there.

I dunno was that him spinning it, or was it just the blade itself spinning.

Penn wrote: »

Thanos is powerful without the stones, and in the fight against Hulk in IW, he wasn't using the power stone (they established throughout the film that Thanos has to close his fist to activate/use any of the stones in the gauntlet, and they glow when he does).
[...]
I don't disagree some variances of people's powers and abilities were used, but I don't think any of them were so out of place as to be inexplicable.

Thanos chucks off his armour and goes weaponless for the rest of Infinity War once he has the space and power stones. They weren't for show. He just became overconfident (and was within a whisker of paying for it on Titan).

Also, I think he had a coherent belief system in the first film, where he had a plan and was sticking to it. He didn't need to kill any of the Avengers because they were so vastly dwarfed by his power, he could just toss them aside, and hold the moral high ground (in his eyes) when he did the snap, leaving it to chance as to whether they survived.

But in End Game his sheer irrationality is exposed once his plan is a proven failure and he starts moving goalposts. There's a mad gleam in his eye in the second film and he becomes wild and angry and is fully suited up with armour and weaponry that seems to be roughly on a par with Thor's weapons, and chops up Cap's vibranium shield like it's made of plywood.

I thought it was handled excellently.

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Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]