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La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

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  • #2762
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Mickiemcfist wrote: »
    Depends on your route I guess, if you had a decent segregated cycle path on your commute they'd be fairly tempting. You'd wish the gards would focus their time on dangerous driving, open drug use & violence on our city streets rather than targetting fellas on little electric scooters. :rolleyes:

    Meh, traffic cops do traffic cop stuff. If you're behind one of these scooters over the next while watch as the rider struggles to keep it in a straight line
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  • #2763
    Hungrycol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Hungrycol


    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    These scooters velocipedes have a bit more of my attention lately, they do seem to tip along at 30kph or so but jaysis do they look unstable, I wouldn't fancy it tbh

    Fixed that for you :p
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  • #2764
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    These scooters have a bit more of my attention lately, they do seem to tip along at 30kph or so but jaysis do they look unstable, I wouldn't fancy it tbh

    i see a few of them on the grand canal route, but i can normally pass them out, they cant be doing more than 12km
    Post edited by magicbastarder on

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  • #2765
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I was posting this in the electric vehicle forum earlier.

    You can see some sellers are telling customers the limit is 45mph/72.4kmh
    https://gyrowheel.ie/faq/
    What is the legal status of electric/battery powered scooters, unicycles and skateboards in Ireland?

    Electric vehicles or any other Mechanically Propelled Vehicles (MPV) do not need to be taxed or insured in Ireland as long as they don’t go over 45 mph. All our products travel below 45 mph. However, if any electric vehicles go over 45 mph, then those would need to get tax and insurance like a regular car or motorbike...

    For further details please see garda.ie.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2766
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    silverharp wrote: »
    i see a few of them on the grand canal route, but i can normally pass them out, they cant be doing more than 12km

    Lots of the Xiaomis are over 30, about 32-34 kp/h
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  • #2767
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,275 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    rubadub wrote: »
    I was posting this in the electric vehicle forum earlier.

    You can see some sellers are telling customers the limit is 45mph/72.4kmh
    https://gyrowheel.ie/faq/

    That video just demonstrates that the RSA, motor tax people and the gardai don't know the law. It doesn't prove that electric skateboards are legal.

    Why he couldn't just go online and read the legislation I've no idea. It's not that hard...
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2768
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    Meh, traffic cops do traffic cop stuff. If you're behind one of these scooters over the next while watch as the rider struggles to keep it in a straight line

    I see a load of them on my commute, and they're pretty stable. No issues going in a straight line that I can see, although there are wobbly people out there. I see far more wobbly cyclists tbh, but I see more cyclists so meh.

    I'm looking at yet more surgery this year, I wont be able to cycle for 6 months. I haven't got a car and I can't hop/crutch the distance from the road into work. Two trains, a bus and a scooter might the the only way I can get into work. It's an hour of a cycle :mad:

    I can't walk or stand for a long length of time. It's really noticeable when I have to go away. I was recently in NY for work. I was on a walking stick, painkillers many times a day because I couldn't cycle to where I needed to go. I think a wee scooter (you can get sit down ones!) would give me mobility when I can't pedal. Here on my bike I pedal pretty much to the door of where ever I need to be so it's fine. Ish. My walkable distance has shrunk massively in the last 2 years, so more surgery :rolleyes:.

    Plus they look like loads of fun. Although the full moto helmet whilst scooting looks hilarious.
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  • #2769
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    rubadub wrote: »
    I was posting this in the electric vehicle forum earlier.

    You can see some sellers are telling customers the limit is 45mph/72.4kmh
    https://gyrowheel.ie/faq/

    Sales person tells people what they want to hear :eek:. If a vehicle needs tax and insurance to be road legal but cannot be taxed or insured, then it simply is not allowed. Tough sh1t. Revenue are great for changing their mind on decisions of which I have been on the poor end of, Insurance companies are private and have no obligation to insure anyone and Gardai, at least some, well, lets just say you might be in court before it is revealed they were incorrect.

    I have nothing against them myself, but the ones tipping 50kmph are a moped in disguise, lets not kid anyone here, if I were a Garda, I'd just be lifting the ones on the pavements and ignoring the rest for the minute, and then informing the person the legal reason its lifted but also it might have been missed if they hadn't been a d1ck and rode it on a pavement.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2770
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    from a consumer law point of view, is there any comeback for someone who buys one on the insistence of a salesperson that they're perfectly legal, and then has it subsequently impounded?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2771
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nee wrote: »
    I see a load of them on my commute, and they're pretty stable. No issues going in a straight line that I can see, although there are wobbly people out there. I see far more wobbly cyclists tbh, but I see more cyclists so meh.

    I'm looking at yet more surgery this year, I wont be able to cycle for 6 months. I haven't got a car and I can't hop/crutch the distance from the road into work. Two trains, a bus and a scooter might the the only way I can get into work. It's an hour of a cycle :mad:

    I can't walk or stand for a long length of time. It's really noticeable when I have to go away. I was recently in NY for work. I was on a walking stick, painkillers many times a day because I couldn't cycle to where I needed to go. I think a wee scooter (you can get sit down ones!) would give me mobility when I can't pedal. Here on my bike I pedal pretty much to the door of where ever I need to be so it's fine. Ish. My walkable distance has shrunk massively in the last 2 years, so more surgery :rolleyes:.

    Plus they look like loads of fun. Although the full moto helmet whilst scooting looks hilarious.

    Jaysus Nee, I thought I was bad with my Achilles and hobbling around like an 80 year some mornings till they loosen up. Sounds like hips or knees? What ever get it sorted, from the sounds of it that **** is really impacting your quality of life.
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  • #2772
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Jaysus Nee, I thought I was bad with my Achilles and hobbling around like an 80 year some mornings till they loosen up. Sounds like hips or knees? What ever get it sorted, from the sounds of it that **** is really impacting your quality of life.

    Hips. I was born with it, it's ongoing. The knees and back are fcuked as a result of growing up with it. I have had some surgeries already, it's degenerative.
    It's also completely normal for me, so it's not suddenly awful. I do have a big difference in strength in my two legs (lefty has only 60% the power of righty, but it is longer :pac: ). Being comfy on a bike is the biggest problem. It still hasn't happened yet :mad: But I live in hope :D
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2773
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    anyone familiar with the route enniskerry glencree and back through Rockbrook. all the times ive done it ive gone clockwise, was thinking of doing it counter clockwise later in the week. Whats it like doing the climb counter clockwise? seems a little more intimidating
    Post edited by magicbastarder on

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #2774
    Pigeon Reaper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Pigeon Reaper


    The swans are getting territorial on the Grand Canal track. It makes for a more interesting commute.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2775
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    silverharp wrote: »
    anyone familiar with the route enniskerry glencree and back through Rockbrook. all the times ive done it ive gone clockwise, was thinking of doing it counter clockwise later in the week. Whats it like doing the climb counter clockwise? seems a little more intimidating

    Might be worth starting a separate thread on this, so people would be more likely to see it?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2776
    Mr. Grieves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Mr. Grieves


    silverharp wrote: »
    anyone familiar with the route enniskerry glencree and back through Rockbrook. all the times ive done it ive gone clockwise, was thinking of doing it counter clockwise later in the week. Whats it like doing the climb counter clockwise? seems a little more intimidating

    For me I prefer clockwise, not for the climb, but the descent. Glencree to Enniskerry road has a few blind bends, poor surface and a final extremely steep drop into Enniskerry. Descending Stocking Lane/Cruagh Road is much more enjoyable.
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  • #2777
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,090 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    silverharp wrote: »
    anyone familiar with the route enniskerry glencree and back through Rockbrook. all the times ive done it ive gone clockwise, was thinking of doing it counter clockwise later in the week. Whats it like doing the climb counter clockwise? seems a little more intimidating
    Much of a muchness really. The climbing is a bit steeper but not as long compared to Enniskerry to Glencree which is drawn out a bit more.

    (Never really thought about it much before but I have a tendency to do most loops counter-clockwise. I'm not really sure why.)
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2778
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Much of a muchness really. The climbing is a bit steeper but not as long compared to Enniskerry to Glencree which is drawn out a bit more.

    (Never really thought about it much before but I have a tendency to do most loops counter-clockwise. I'm not really sure why.)

    More left turns than right maybe, so easier to keep moving and less stop starting?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2779
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    The Garda Twitter account is reporting a seriously injured cyclist taken to hospital after a crash in Dorset Street
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  • #2780
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    The Garda Twitter account is reporting a seriously injured cyclist taken to hospital after a crash in Dorset Street

    Hope she's ok

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1121165412589363200
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2781
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Nee, have you ever tried a semi-recumbent? I'm told that recumbents and semi-recumbents are powered by the stomach and back muscles (I think it is) rather than the leg muscles.
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  • #2782
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Nee, have you ever tried a semi-recumbent? I'm told that recumbents and semi-recumbents are powered by the stomach and back muscles (I think it is) rather than the leg muscles.

    I haven't. They look like fun, but I'm fine pedalling a normal bike, bar the fit, and I race, so no non UCI approved bikes for me!
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  • #2783
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    it should be a change to do the route the other way, ive always had Enniskerry as a straight route out of dublin so force of habit but then felt the descent was wasted and used up to quickly. ill watch out for the road quality before Enniskerry thanks!
    Post edited by magicbastarder on

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #2784
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I was stung by a bee on the mouth the last time I did the descent into Enniskerry. Not a great feeling at that speed.

    funnily enough i was clocked in the face a few times by large bugs on the way down.

    looking at the map, is it worth skipping Enniskerry and cut up through glencullen instead?
    Post edited by magicbastarder on

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #2785
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Nee, have you ever tried a semi-recumbent? I'm told that recumbents and semi-recumbents are powered by the stomach and back muscles (I think it is) rather than the leg muscles.

    I would have thought recumbents and semi recumbents engaged the leg muscles more as the seating braces the body so would be more akin to the leg press in a gym but without as much strain.
    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2786
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Dun Laoghaire Rathdown county council have increased the height for posters on cycle lanes. Be sure to hound the scumbags publicly on twitter ignoring these safety instructions, bonus points if they have some tweet claiming to give a damn about safety or the environment or anything to make them really stand out as hypocritical scum. One prick has ones which are blocking out traffic lights, and plenty jutting out into cycletracks. Check your own local CC for their rules.

    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/default/files/atoms/files/election_posters_dlr.pdf

    There should be a minimum clearance of 2.5 metres (8ft) from the lower edge of any poster to ground level on footpaths and 3.2metres (10ft) on cycle lanes and no posters should be placed higher than 6.5 metres (20ft) from the ground.
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  • #2787
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Met a fella in Tesco there earlier said hello to me, long time no see you're up here these days are ya and asked how I was and I half recognised him but still couldn't place him. Turned out to be a guy I used to meet on my morning commute when we were living in Dublin. We worked in the same business park and would often shoot the breeze if we met each other en route. He's lived 5 minutes from me for the last 3 years :D
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  • #2788
    Alek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Alek


    I half recognised him but still couldn't place him

    That's what happens when you see a fellow cyclist without the helmet. I have this with Wishbone Ash every single time.
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  • #2789
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    rubadub wrote: »
    Dun Laoghaire Rathdown county council have increased the height for posters on cycle lanes. Be sure to hound the scumbags publicly on twitter ignoring these safety instructions, bonus points if they have some tweet claiming to give a damn about safety or the environment or anything to make them really stand out as hypocritical scum. One prick has ones which are blocking out traffic lights, and plenty jutting out into cycletracks.

    Don't hold back now... :D
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  • #2790
    cjt156
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭cjt156


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Cygnets should be getting hatched in the next few weeks, so they would be very protective of their nests at this time of year.

    At first glance I read that as 'Cyclists should be hatching...'

    I know some people think we are a breed apart but I wasn't aware how much...
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  • #2791
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just a corollary to the thread about climbs in south county dublin - what are the steepest climbs on the northside? howth/snowtown are the two i'd be most familiar with.
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