Calving 2019 - Advice and Help thread

whelan2 · 06-04-2019 05:25PM

einn32 wrote: »

There is a tool you can get to turn the calf inside the cow. I forget the name of it but vet used it here successfully. Serious power still needed and a two person job

Ye we used it here a few weeks ago and someone linked it on YouTube

Lady Haywire · 06-04-2019 05:48PM

GYNstick.

patsy_mccabe · 06-04-2019 06:01PM

https://www.quidee.de/media/products/GYNStick/GYNstick_descr_en.pdf

Might be worth a thread of it's own.

Angus2018 · 07-04-2019 11:24AM

Thats a mad looking yoke.

3 more calves here. Heifer just went this morning. Had them out on grass the past 6 weeks to get their strength up. Calf was big so she couldn't get anywhere with the head. Hard enough pull with ropes and it came out. Angus so minimal chance of getting stuck on the hips. The heifer jumped up when it was done, amazing what a few weeks on grass will do.

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 06:37PM

Pulled this fella for a neighbour last night. Never seen anything like him. Size 10 wellie for scale. Still does him no justice.

squinn2912 · 08-04-2019 07:36PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Pulled this fella for a neighbour last night. Never seen anything like him. Size 10 wellie for scale. Still does him no justice.

Jesus he’s massive! He looks a couple of weeks old. I’d say he took his time getting up?

tanko · 08-04-2019 07:37PM

Is it off your own bull?!!!

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 07:43PM

squinn2912 wrote: »

Jesus he’s massive! He looks a couple of weeks old. I’d say he took his time getting up?

Running around the shed this evening!

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 07:45PM

tanko wrote: »

Is it off your own bull?!!!

No. A fairly old bull the neighbour has.
Enfield Newlook x cf52. Serious breeding bull but you get the odd whopper off him.

High bike · 08-04-2019 09:14PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Pulled this fella for a neighbour last night. Never seen anything like him. Size 10 wellie for scale. Still does him no justice.

took some cow to push that lad out

Dunedin · 13-04-2019 09:14AM

To be fair, it’s been a great spring to get cows and calves out early. The bull will be out a lot earlier too in lots of places

whelan2 · 13-04-2019 09:27AM

Dunedin wrote: »

To be fair, it’s been a great spring to get cows and calves out early. The bull will be out a lot earlier too in lots of places

Ai man was saying that a few lads who held off serving until later last year have started ai already this year.

tellmeabit · 13-04-2019 09:43AM

1 cow to calf here and suspect something is up. Bull was with cows 6 weeks and all scanned incalf. This girl with twins. Previous cow calved a week ago. She Showing no sign of springing and don't see any movement inside of her. Put her in crush today and can't feel any movement from outside. She doesn't seem as big as a month ago either. While in crush another cow mounted her a couple times. Calving started a month ago. Wait on a couple more weeks and observer? Eating away.

patsy_mccabe · 13-04-2019 10:07AM

Dunedin wrote: »

To be fair, it’s been a great spring to get cows and calves out early. The bull will be out a lot earlier too in lots of places

Got a bad doing with scour this year (not me now, the calves). First few were fine then 4 or 5 in a row got scour, so I calved the rest outside. None of them got scour. Have one cow that acts up a bit when calving so decided to calve her inside. She went 10 days over and had a big calf that was slow to get going. Left them in for just 2 days and yep he got bad scour.

Had to tube everything for 2 or 3 days, but they all pulled tru. What kind of scour could it be? It struck at around a week old, no blood or mucous and came out like pure water. Scour never really a problem here. Hope it isn't here to stay.

tanko · 13-04-2019 10:17AM

Could be Crypto, was it green in colour.
Had it here a few years ago, started disinfecting calving pens with Kilcox and lime before calving starts, made a big difference.
Also used Rotavec Corona this year, well worth doing i think.

patsy_mccabe · 13-04-2019 10:24AM

tanko wrote: »

Could be Crypto, was it green in colour.
Had it here a few years ago, started disinfecting calving pens with Kilcox and lime before calving starts, made a big difference.
Also used Rotavec Corona this year, well worth doing i think.

Not green. Had one case of Crypto before so I think I recognise it.
I do powerwash and disenfect (Jeyes fluid) the calving area before calving starts.

greysides · 13-04-2019 01:01PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Not green. Had one case of Crypto before so I think I recognise it.
I do powerwash and disenfect (Jeyes fluid) the calving area before calving starts.

I wouldn't be depending on colour to identify cause. Age would better but still not foolproof. Your vet may have a test kit that's cheapish and accurate. Sample would need to be from a sick calf and fresh.
I'd suggest using disinfectants certified for the causal agent. I wouldn't be sure Jeyes Fluid would be adequate.
Have the cows as clean as possible before calving. They are part of the calf's 'environment '.

anthony500_1 · 14-04-2019 12:40PM

Lads I have a cow calved 4 days ago, she still not cleaned, let her out to a wall of ivy, vet recommend waiting 10 days before giving injection is there anything else lad can do in the mean time???

tanko · 14-04-2019 12:47PM

My vet would reccomend giving her somerhing like Betamox LA every second day and getting her examined after a week or so if she hadn't cleaned.
Was it a hard calving?

Albert Johnson · 14-04-2019 01:07PM

anthony500_1 wrote: »

Lads I have a cow calved 4 days ago, she still not cleaned, let her out to a wall of ivy, vet recommend waiting 10 days before giving injection is there anything else lad can do in the mean time???

The ivy may be a help, I've often been told that grass from a graveyard is a renowned cure. I know of a few lads lately that found it successful but have no personal experience of it working. Is there any cleanings showing? If it was a hard calving / dead calf it often takes them near a week to clean in my experience

whelan2 · 14-04-2019 01:20PM

anthony500_1 wrote: »

Lads I have a cow calved 4 days ago, she still not cleaned, let her out to a wall of ivy, vet recommend waiting 10 days before giving injection is there anything else lad can do in the mean time???

Once she's eating I'd leave her be

anthony500_1 · 14-04-2019 01:44PM

She is eating away, about a foot hanging out, and it was a hard calvingn, big bull calf 2 weeks over due so that could be a lot of it. Put her in the crush there and to top it all off, one teat like a bullet and a second full of a blood coloured milk........ Looks like my final calving of 2019 is going to put the rest of what can only be called a super calving season to a poor end

L1985 · 14-04-2019 07:51PM

I have something similar-it’s been 12 days but cows in excellent form and is eating really well but hasn’t cleaned.... will I leave her be which is my instinct or at this point should I inject her? It wasn’t a hard calving.

tanko · 14-04-2019 09:39PM

12 days is a long time to retain the cleanings, i'd get a vet to look at her.

L1985 · 15-04-2019 11:15AM

Typical-saw her this morning and she had cleaned! Happy though as it’s the longest I’ve ever seen a cow not clean . I spoke with the vet before and it’s just the fact she’s in excellent form and eating well I didn’t really see the need to intervene too much!

blue5000 · 15-04-2019 11:46AM

anthony500_1 wrote: »

She is eating away, about a foot hanging out, and it was a hard calvingn, big bull calf 2 weeks over due so that could be a lot of it. Put her in the crush there and to top it all off, one teat like a bullet and a second full of a blood coloured milk........ Looks like my final calving of 2019 is going to put the rest of what can only be called a super calving season to a poor end

Did you ever test for low selenium or iodine?

anthony500_1 · 15-04-2019 05:59PM

blue5000 wrote:

Did you ever test for low selenium or iodine?

No never, would that be a cause of it

Dunedin · 15-04-2019 09:10PM

Cows and calves all back in today and by god were they happy to get in.

Lady Haywire · 16-04-2019 10:11AM

Nice little charolais heifer off the accidental pregnancy! Two feet at 3.15 & calved herself by the time I'd made myself a cup of tea.

grassroot1 · 16-04-2019 11:53AM

Lady Haywire wrote:

Nice little charolais heifer off the accidental pregnancy! Two feet at 3.15 & calved herself by the time I'd made myself a cup of tea.

I see you are making a pet of this one too.
Next thing you will give it a nameðŸ˜

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