British Para regiment under investigation for shooting at posters of Jeremy Corbyn

SharpshooterTom · 03-04-2019 04:15PM #1

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1113376554464284672
Unfortunately not all surprising given the print media in UK has endlessly attacked Corbyn non stop for the past 2 years for being a big IRA sympathiser.

Most people on social media seem to condemn it although theres a sizeable minority who support this. Usually the EDL/Tommy Robinson/Brexiteer crowd who have a real hatred for Corbyn convinced he's got links to the IRA in some way.

Bit worrying though that elements of the British Army are shooting up posters of who could be their next prime minister.

kowloon · 03-04-2019 04:38PM

I know quite a few guys who have been in the British Army or are still in and can confirm they are not big fans of Corbyn. The word traitor has been used. They're not all Brexiters and the majority think Tommy Robinson is a tool. Corbyn suggesting that the UK gets rid of its nuclear weapons seems to be a big issue for them. There's a perception that Britain is still one of the great powers and doing away with the nukes would threaten that status. Not big fans of Scottish independence either.

FrancieBrady · 03-04-2019 04:52PM

The Para's? Who would believe it? :rolleyes:

James Brown · 03-04-2019 04:57PM

Not one bit surprised. I work with an ex-British forces lad and he'll tell you how great Thatcher was all day if you let him.
It's that false patriotism soldiers are sold by the very people sending them off to die to increase corporate or personal wealth.

Timberrrrrrrr · 03-04-2019 05:00PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Not one bit surprised. I work with an ex-British forces lad and he'll tell you how great Thatcher was all day if you let him.
It's that false patriotism soldiers are sold by the very people sending them off to die to increase corporate or personal wealth.

I know a lot of BA soldiers (serving and ex) and i don't think i have ever heard a single one say a nice word about Thatcher.

Guy:Incognito · 03-04-2019 05:04PM

Oh no, not a poster.

If they'd have shot Jeremy Corbyn then they'd have something to moan about.

Guy:Incognito · 03-04-2019 05:05PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lot of BA soldiers (serving and ex) and i don't think i have ever heard a single one say a nice word about Thatcher.

It's almost as if theres more than 1 of them.

Or maybe all 150,000 love Maggie.

partyguinness · 03-04-2019 05:08PM

Very surprising. Paras have always seemed like such a nice well mannered educated bunch of lads.

Nidgeweasel · 03-04-2019 05:10PM

Makes a change from shooting unarmed civilians in the back I suppose.

Baby steps.

FTA69 · 03-04-2019 05:18PM

It's basically a non-story really, the optics of it are very sinister and bad but the reality is that it's a bunch of eejits arsing around on the firing range with a picture of a fella they don't like. Some people are suggesting this is an indication that Corbyn will face some sort of a military coup or something but I think that's hyperbole to say the least.

There has always been an extremely reactionary mindset running through the Brit Army (and the Paras especially) of hard-headed militarism and a sense of British superiority. The fact Corbyn is a jam-making peacenik portrayed as an IRA supporter who doesn't back "our boys" fully is enough to send a lot of them around the twist.

Tom Mann Centuria · 03-04-2019 05:22PM

British Army is supposed to be apolitical, as commanding officer of these Muppets has stated, so it's clearly a big deal shooting at a picture of the leader of the opposition.

Fcuk all range safety there which will have the bigwigs twitching almost as much.

/safety salamander.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2019 05:25PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Not one bit surprised. I work with an ex-British forces lad and he'll tell you how great Thatcher was all day if you let him.
It's that false patriotism soldiers are sold by the very people sending them off to die to increase corporate or personal wealth.

Yeh, they are dumb cannon fodder. The state doesn’t even really look after them after they come back from wars either.

Sardonicat · 03-04-2019 05:28PM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

British Army is supposed to be apolitical, as commanding officer of these Muppets has stated, so it's clearly a big deal shooting at a picture of the leader of the opposition.

Fcuk all range safety there which will have the bigwigs twitching almost as much.

/safety salamander.

Thought they were firing paintballs?

Richard Hillman · 03-04-2019 05:29PM

Excellent shooting

partyguinness · 03-04-2019 05:34PM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

British Army is supposed to be apolitical, as commanding officer of these Muppets has stated, so it's clearly a big deal shooting at a picture of the leader of the opposition.

Fcuk all range safety there which will have the bigwigs twitching almost as much.

/safety salamander.

Not exactly the best PR when MPs are being threatened and remember Jo Cox?

A lot of talk about MPs personal safety and then your own armed forces are putting this stuff out..

Tom Mann Centuria · 03-04-2019 05:34PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Thought they were firing paintballs?

Protocols for military range is the same, or should be the same, no matter what rounds are used.

Junkyard Tom · 03-04-2019 05:36PM

Peter - Cheshire Regiment:

I know people who go into discos and beat up spastics; these people are Paras.

Brits Speak Out.
John Lindsay (1998)

Source.

Tom Mann Centuria · 03-04-2019 05:37PM

partyguinness wrote: »

Not exactly the best PR when MPs are being threatened and remember Jo Cox?

A lot of talk about MPs personal safety and then your own armed forces are putting this stuff out..

Another right wing plot was uncovered the other day about a plot to kill a female Labour MP.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/03/far-right-terror-plot-police-jack-renshaw-rosie-cooper-mp

03-04-2019 05:39PM

Yeah, am I the only one who remembers their glorious "celebration" photographs - in, I think, Lisburn barracks - of their murder of the unarmed Karen Reilly (18) & Martin Peake (17) in the 1990s? More "fun" killing unarmed Irish teenagers. True British colonial heroes (their murderer, Lee Clegg, got promoted of course)

Thanks to Brexit and massively changing demographics, we will now finally see Ireland free from the Butcher's Apron in our lifetime.

FrancieBrady · 03-04-2019 05:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, am I the only one who remembers their glorious "celebration" photographs - in, I think, Lisburn barracks - of their murder of the unarmed Karen Reilly (18) & Martin Peake (17) in the 1990s? More "fun" killing unarmed Irish teenagers. True British colonial heroes (their murderer, Lee Clegg, got promoted of course)

Thanks to Brexit and massively changing demographics, we will now finally see Ireland free from the Butcher's Apron in our lifetime.

They'd have been disbanded in any normal society. The BA can do no wrong...unless you fight for 40 odd years to get them to admit that they did.

James Brown · 03-04-2019 05:49PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lot of BA soldiers (serving and ex) and i don't think i have ever heard a single one say a nice word about Thatcher.

Different people have different opinions? I disagree.

He cites Thatcher giving them a much needed pay raise.
I'll tell him you said he's wrong.

03-04-2019 05:51PM

if it was a poster of Theresa May half the posters on here would be queuing up to congratulate them or shout about it being only a joke, but because its Corbyn it is somehow sinister.

PR issues the army need to deal with, which it looks like they are, but seriously, who cares?

Tom Mann Centuria · 03-04-2019 05:52PM

Aegir wrote: »

if it was a poster of Theresa May half the posters on here would be queuing up to congratulate them or shout about it being only a joke, but because its Corbyn it is somehow sinister.

PR issues the army need to deal with, which it looks like they are, but seriously, who cares?

Well a Labour MP was murdered another Labour MP targeted, so that's why it's serious.

James Brown · 03-04-2019 05:54PM

Aegir wrote: »

if it was a poster of Theresa May half the posters on here would be queuing up to congratulate them or shout about it being only a joke, but because its Corbyn it is somehow sinister.

PR issues the army need to deal with, which it looks like they are, but seriously, who cares?

You do obviously.
Most of us aren't paras, I assume. To your point if it was some scallywag shooting a picture of Mary Lou, what of it, but if it were Irish soldiers....be tumble weeds I suppose...

beachhead · 03-04-2019 05:55PM

Why wouldn't the British armed forces adore Thatcher.Think of all the far flung she has sent them to,to gain "experience" and retire to cushy numbers "protecting" our betters all over the world.Mr corbyn won't be any different when he gets power.

Timberrrrrrrr · 03-04-2019 05:57PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Different people have different opinions? I disagree.

He cites Thatcher giving them a much needed pay raise.
I'll tell him you said he's wrong.

Many remember what thatcher did to the coal industry, a lot of normal soldiers come from the areas that were devastated by the pit closures and watched their families torn apart by her actions. Not many here in the North west at least would be big Thatcher fans at all.

zapitastas · 03-04-2019 06:00PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Many remember what thatcher did to the coal industry, a lot of normal soldiers come from the areas that were devastated by the pit closures and watched their families torn apart by her actions. Not many here in the North west at least would be big Thatcher fans at all.

She did have a particular grá for the British army though ... Her boys

FrancieBrady · 03-04-2019 06:00PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Different people have different opinions? I disagree.

He cites Thatcher giving them a much needed pay raise.
I'll tell him you said he's wrong.

I remember that soldier that got hideous burn injuries (can't think of his name) being asked to explain why so many soldiers adored her when she died.
Can't remember his answer, mind you, but there was certainly a phenomenon of excessive worship, if that is the correct word.

Force Carrier · 03-04-2019 06:01PM

These are the guys who parachuted their troops into the middle of the II Panzer Corp at Arnhem.

p1akuw47h5r3it · 03-04-2019 06:02PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Not one bit surprised. I work with an ex-British forces lad and he'll tell you how great Thatcher was all day if you let him.
It's that false patriotism soldiers are sold by the very people sending them off to die to increase corporate or personal wealth.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lot of BA soldiers (serving and ex) and i don't think i have ever heard a single one say a nice word about Thatcher.

Thing is the military is a little micocosm of society. So you'll be bound to find Thatcher supporters, Thatcher haters, labour supporters, conservatives, people who have no interest in politics, those that dislike the cops etc. etc.

Tom Mann Centuria · 03-04-2019 06:02PM

Force Carrier wrote: »

These are the guys who parachuted their troops into the middle of the II Panzer Corp at Arnhem.

No, they're long retired/passed away.

British Para regiment under investigation for shooting at posters of Jeremy Corbyn

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