Toyota Auris advertisment review

johndaman66 · 02-04-2019 10:53PM #1

Hello all. I'm selling my petrol Toyota Auris on Donedeal with not much luck so far bar the obligatory few clowns sending messages such as I'm offering you €2,800 for your car…….CASH and because its.....CASH it has to be the holy grail of an offer your obliged to accept notwithstanding that it €1,200 less than what I would consider to be a reasonably priced €4,000 car. Oh yeah and I have to drive the car to Mayo in the morning for this sort of buyer too, ignoring the fact I might be working or bothering to even ask.... that sort of thing.

Anyway, sorry for my mini rant. Objective and constructive feedback on my ad appreciated. It is a bit of a clichut the photos really don't do it justice, it is spotless. I'm not a professional photographer and only have a smartphone but hope to get better photos with good sunlight up as soon as possible. Any observations on the content in the ad or if I could draft it better? Also price - am I really away off the mark relative to what kind of money these are getting for private sales?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-auris-1-4-terra/21349354

A change in my job circumstances means I definitely need to move over to the devils juice so would exchange also as mentioned in the ad.

rex-x · 02-04-2019 10:59PM

Its probably just a little expensive for terra (very most basic model) with not even alloy wheels

bazz26 · 02-04-2019 11:04PM

I don't think the advert is bad per say but rather more what you are selling and what you are asking for it. 4k is pricey enough for a base Terra model 10 year old 1.4 litre Auris with relatively high motor tax. In contrast my father has a very tidy higher UK TR spec 2009 Auris with the newer 1.33 litre petrol engine that only costs €280 to tax and very low mileage but he would struggle to get close to 4k for it if he put it up for sale tomorrow. Cheap tax cars are now in the reach of alot of people so they can afford to be fussy about what they buy.

I think you seriously have to reassess the asking price imo. GLWTS though.

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2019 11:06PM

And not forgetting the tax. An irish 09 auris isn't a good buy imo unless it's cheap. A pre july 08 has cheaper tax and a 2010 has cheaper tax again.

johndaman66 · 02-04-2019 11:53PM

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. I bought the car privately last June for €4,000 and done a few routine bits to it since including new tyres. Bought it out of tax and put a years tax on it so it has almost 3 months tax left on it until the end of June. It was not bad priced at the time compared to what they were asking on Donedeal. Most being sold privately on Donedeal at the time were asking around €5,000 if not more and some being sold by dealers €6 - €7k which was a bit mad (talking about 1.4 petrols through and through). But fair to say I am being a bit cheeky/ optimistic with the asking price now.

I bought it a bit quicker than I would have hoped to as my 04' Corolla was in dire straights with a bearing badly gone and was playing Russian roulette motoring with it on my daily commute. I am now moving to a new job with a longer commute and possibly some travelling involved with the job so it would be silly not to get a diesel... All that's a story for another thread though.

Its difficult to tell from Donedeal what I should ask though. If I filter for 2009 1.4 Auris there are 14 for sale including my own that have an asking price on them. The cheapest is €3,250 and the most expensive is €5,850. The mean asking price is €4,598. The second cheapest is asking €3,950.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Toyota/Auris?sort=price%20asc&fuelType=Petrol&year_from=2009&year_to=2009&engine_from=1.4&engine_to=1.4

What price would seem realistic?

colm_mcm · 03-04-2019 09:10AM

You’d want to be at the bottom end of that price range. Yours is unfortunately the least desirable Auris model being Terra and high Co2

Henry Ford III · 03-04-2019 09:54AM

The higher tax is a negative but is spec. that important on a 10 year old car?

Andrewf20 · 03-04-2019 10:21AM

Ironically the tax on this car went up from 2008 onwards. The tax on our 2007 one was 385eu. I sold it last year to a neighbour for 2800eu. (I gave a bit of a discount as I wanted a quick sale with another baby on the way). It had 46k miles on it with 6 months left on nct. It did have a dent on the passenger door what would have cost 600eu to fix. Luna model with a/c and alloys.

Maybe mention in your ad that the car has a timing chain with no interval. Ring your local toyota garage to confirm but that was one of the reasons I went for the auris.

_Brian · 03-04-2019 10:24AM

Ad is fine.
You will likely have to adjust price until interest shows.
By how much and when depends on how quickly you need it moved on.

terrydel · 03-04-2019 10:41AM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

The higher tax is a negative but is spec. that important on a 10 year old car?

I think so.
People often still want what was good spec for that time.

Squidgy Black · 03-04-2019 10:43AM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

The higher tax is a negative but is spec. that important on a 10 year old car?

I would say yes, I know any time I've been looking at older cars I generally avoid base models if possible considering you can generally get a higher spec model for marginally more.

colm_mcm · 03-04-2019 11:34AM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

The higher tax is a negative but is spec. that important on a 10 year old car?

I think it’s still important. For example many people will have air conditioning as a must-have as it’s something that’s standard fitment on most cars in that class.

Henry Ford III · 03-04-2019 12:10PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think it’s still important. For example many people will have air conditioning as a must-have as it’s something that’s standard fitment on most cars in that class.

Yes but a buyer of a 10 year old car would be more concerned with a solid body, reliable engine, and sound transmission than bells and whistles I'd have thought.

colm_mcm · 03-04-2019 12:30PM

Depends on the buyer I suppose, but you rule out a lot of potential buyers if key spec is missing, which makes the car slower and harder to sell. The tax is a big factor now as people have become used to €200/250 tax on lots of cars.
The market is flooded with cars so in order to stand out, this car needs to be priced accordingly.

bazz26 · 03-04-2019 12:32PM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Yes but a buyer of a 10 year old car would be more concerned with a solid body, reliable engine, and sound transmission than bells and whistles I'd have thought.

But why can't people desire all of that from a car that was only made a decade ago? It's really not a big ask these days and I'd like to think we have moved on from the 1980s when 4 wheels and a steering wheel were the only requirements to get on the road for Irish people. There are plenty of used cars out there with generous features so buyers can afford to be a bit fussy without compromising, even with 10 year old cars.

show me the money.1 · 03-04-2019 01:00PM

johndaman66 wrote: »

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. I bought the car privately last June for €4,000 and done a few routine bits to it since including new tyres. Bought it out of tax and put a years tax on it so it has almost 3 months tax left on it until the end of June. It was not bad priced at the time compared to what they were asking on Donedeal. Most being sold privately on Donedeal at the time were asking around €5,000 if not more and some being sold by dealers €6 - €7k which was a bit mad (talking about 1.4 petrols through and through). But fair to say I am being a bit cheeky/ optimistic with the asking price now.

I bought it a bit quicker than I would have hoped to as my 04' Corolla was in dire straights with a bearing badly gone and was playing Russian roulette motoring with it on my daily commute. I am now moving to a new job with a longer commute and possibly some travelling involved with the job so it would be silly not to get a diesel... All that's a story for another thread though.

Its difficult to tell from Donedeal what I should ask though. If I filter for 2009 1.4 Auris there are 14 for sale including my own that have an asking price on them. The cheapest is €3,250 and the most expensive is €5,850. The mean asking price is €4,598. The second cheapest is asking €3,950.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Toyota/Auris?sort=price%20asc&fuelType=Petrol&year_from=2009&year_to=2009&engine_from=1.4&engine_to=1.4

What price would seem realistic?

That why them cars are still on donedeal, you cant use other cars for sale as a guide price because they have not sold.
If a car has not shifted off donedeal in the first 3 to 5 days its price is too high, you can stick where you are with price and might get lucky or drop the price and let it off.

Henry Ford III · 03-04-2019 05:02PM

bazz26 wrote: »

But why can't people desire all of that from a car that was only made a decade ago? It's really not a big ask these days and I'd like to think we have moved on from the 1980s when 4 wheels and a steering wheel were the only requirements to get on the road for Irish people. There are plenty of used cars out there with generous features so buyers can afford to be a bit fussy without compromising, even with 10 year old cars.

Some folk in the market for older cars would prefer to keep it simple and reliable - less to go wrong.

Duke O Smiley · 03-04-2019 05:24PM

Bit of advice, though I think other posters have covered the main things: retake the photos on a nice (or just dry) day in a location that isn't a car park. Ideally at home in the garden. IMO the first photo screams "trader" and that might turn a few folks off

colm_mcm · 03-04-2019 06:07PM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Some folk in the market for older cars would prefer to keep it simple and reliable - less to go wrong.

Hmm, sounds like the anti electric windows and power steering brigade in the 90s!

bazz26 · 03-04-2019 08:57PM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Some folk in the market for older cars would prefer to keep it simple and reliable - less to go wrong.

We are talking about things like alloy wheels, air con, electric windows etc though which are hardly cutting edge and have been around in cars for ions.

johndaman66 · 04-04-2019 08:00PM

Thanks one and all for commentary and feedback. I have dropped the price a wee bit so hopefully every little but helps. The number of views of the ad is on the rise. As I previously mentioned I know full well the photos aren't fantastic so will get a few better snaps taken the next decent day and put them up.

I'm in no serious panic to sell the car but the sooner I sell the sooner I start saving on juice.

grogi · 04-04-2019 08:12PM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Yes but a buyer of a 10 year old car would be more concerned with a solid body, reliable engine, and sound transmission than bells and whistles I'd have thought.

If you have five cars with some condition, yet only one with A/C - which one would you party with?

Henry Ford III · 04-04-2019 09:52PM

grogi wrote: »

If you have five cars with some condition, yet only one with A/C - which one would you party with?

If they are 10 years old probably the one with the lowest mileage and best service history.

The a/c on a 10 year old car might not even work any more.

johndaman66 · 04-04-2019 11:18PM

For me personally the condition of the car would take precedence over the extras and 'toys' if were talking a 10 year old motor - by a long shot. Documented service history and number of owners might also be items that would help win me over. How genuine the ad appears also would have a big bearing - if I see that there was a transfer of ownership within the past 3 months that would tend to scare me off.

But that's just me and I don't represent the car buying public either. Nor do I confirm to general just accept it and don't question it norms that tend to be too readily foisted on us a lot of the time.

When I was looking for that Auris I viewed a 2010 1.33 UK import (Irish reg) which was €280 pa to tax. He wanted €5,000 for it which was just €1,000 more than what I paid for mine being a 2009. It had a lot more gadgets than mine, 6 spd, cruise control I think, electric window, mfsw, alloys, front fog lights etc. However, mileage was considerably higher on it and worse of all it was practically ate away with the rust underneath. Also, only partial service history. As I mention I had to buy something pretty pronto but even so I would still have my own over it any day of the week. No doubt some wet behind the ears young guy or gal bought it off him in the end. In my opinion there is a lot to be said for an original clean, genuine Irish car even if somewhat more basic as there is a lot of fancy scrap out there for sale too.

johndaman66 · 08-04-2019 12:06PM

Just to provide an update I was offered a 2011 Mazda 3 1.6 diesel executive saloon by a garage for my own and €2,000. The Mazda has 115k miles and tested until 01/2021. Good tyres and doesn't have any motor tax on it which is €200 p.a. Do ye think this is good or bad? Also does anyone know if this model has cruise control?

johndaman66 · 20-05-2019 10:32PM

Hi all, just a note to mention to those of you who recalled the ad that I sold the Auris at the weekend for €3,150. We had agreed on €3,300 but when the chap took it to his mechanic he seen that it needed new discs and pads all around. They had just started squelling a few days beforehand so that was a bit unlucky.

On the basis of what my car sold for after a long while up for sale (immaculate condition with 135k km, fsh, tested to November next yr and a smidgen of motor tax) are these all dreamers bar the one at €3,500 in Monaghan perhaps? (hell maybe even that one is a dreamer?)
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Toyota/Auris?fuelType=Petrol&year_from=2009&year_to=2009&engine_from=1.4&engine_to=1.4

FDave · 21-05-2019 10:15AM

johndaman66 wrote: »

Hi all, just a note to mention to those of you who recalled the ad that I sold the Auris at the weekend for €3,150. We had agreed on €3,300 but when the chap took it to his mechanic he seen that it needed new discs and pads all around. They had just started squelling a few days beforehand so that was a bit unlucky.

On the basis of what my car sold for after a long while up for sale (immaculate condition with 135k km, fsh, tested to November next yr and a smidgen of motor tax) are these all dreamers bar the one at €3,500 in Monaghan perhaps? (hell maybe even that one is a dreamer?)
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Toyota/Auris?fuelType=Petrol&year_from=2009&year_to=2009&engine_from=1.4&engine_to=1.4

No they are Dealers who have to keep a business running. Although one of them definitely is dreaming.

Toyota Auris advertisment review

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