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Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    maybe I'm stateing the obvious lads but why not just use a kicking bar!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    maybe I'm stateing the obvious lads but why not just use a kicking bar!

    I find kick bars to be hit and miss tbh, on some cows they work grand but it only seems to antagonize others. The rope is 100% effective in my experience and not much more difficult to apply. A rope is also easier sourced at times compared to a kick bar especially if on an out farm ect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    I find kick bars to be hit and miss tbh, on some cows they work grand but it only seems to antagonize others. The rope is 100% effective in my experience and not much more difficult to apply. A rope is also easier sourced at times compared to a kick bar especially if on an out farm ect.

    I have 2 of um hanging right above my calving pens and another hanging above the crush on the out farm. 2 seconds to put um on. the only cows that will give any trouble with a kicking bar are the very square muscled types that don't have a very pronounced ridge. I'd use them allot if a cow wasn't letting a calf suck. eventually all you'll need to do is hang the bar off her and she won't even contemplate kicking. tbh i thought the days of doing um up with ropes was long gone.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I have 2 of um hanging right above my calving pens and another hanging above the crush on the out farm. 2 seconds to put um on. the only cows that will give any trouble with a kicking bar are the very square muscled types that don't have a very pronounced ridge. I'd use them allot if a cow wasn't letting a calf suck. eventually all you'll need to do is hang the bar off her and she won't even contemplate kicking. tbh i thought the days of doing um up with ropes was long gone.

    We have one hanging off the wall plate in an old shed for as long as I can remember, it doesn't get used as the rope does a similar job and is nearly as convenient in my experience. If your happy using the kick bar then use it by all means however there's usually more than one way to accomplish everything.

    As for the days of trussing them up with ropes I think it's become less common in recent years. I'm by far the youngest farmer in the locality, there's 7 other men still farming on our road and if I'm excluded the average age must be near 70. Only one of them has family and it's like a step back in time to observe some of what goes on daily. There's only one 4wd tractor and two slatted sheds, the rest have 35's or similar and either out winter the stock or tie them in the byre for the winter.

    I helped one character with a herd test a few weeks ago, his crush fell apart a few years back and he hasn't got round to repairing it yet. The 10 cattle were either tied in a stall or corralled behind a gate for the vet, it's like something out of a James Herriot book. Conversely a lad about my age arrived at the mart lately with a few dry cow's, most of them had only one tag but he had replacement's in his pocket to put in. Having put the cows in the chute he remarked that we couldn't tag them as there was no skulling gate, obviously he came from a more privileged farming background than myself. He was amazed when I caught the first cow by the nose and told him to stick a tag in her asap, I informed him after that a chute was considered a luxury in our area. I don't think he'd get too far if given a halter or any other rope to do something with a beast if necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    We have one hanging off the wall plate in an old shed for as long as I can remember, it doesn't get used as the rope does a similar job and is nearly as convenient in my experience. If your happy using the kick bar then use it by all means however there's usually more than one way to accomplish everything.

    As for the days of trussing them up with ropes I think it's become less common in recent years. I'm by far the youngest farmer in the locality, there's 7 other men still farming on our road and if I'm excluded the average age must be near 70. Only one of them has family and it's like a step back in time to observe some of what goes on daily. There's only one 4wd tractor and two slatted sheds, the rest have 35's or similar and either out winter the stock or tie them in the byre for the winter.

    I helped one character with a herd test a few weeks ago, his crush fell apart a few years back and he hasn't got round to repairing it yet. The 10 cattle were either tied in a stall or corralled behind a gate for the vet, it's like something out of a James Herriot book. Conversely a lad about my age arrived at the mart lately with a few dry cow's, most of them had only one tag but he had replacement's in his pocket to put in. Having put the cows in the chute he remarked that we couldn't tag them as there was no skulling gate, obviously he came from a more privileged farming background than myself. He was amazed when I caught the first cow by the nose and told him to stick a tag in her asap, I informed him after that a chute was considered a luxury in our area. I don't think he'd get too far if given a halter or any other rope to do something with a beast if necessary.

    My own rope skills are abysmal. A neighbour is deadly at setting up ropes to hold up a leg or make a halter or anything, the best part is that his knots can be undone in a jiffy. If myself or the old boy have to tie a cow any way we will have a knife ready first!
    Should be part of the green cert


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Bullocks wrote: »
    My own rope skills are abysmal. A neighbour is deadly at setting up ropes to hold up a leg or make a halter or anything, the best part is that his knots can be undone in a jiffy. If myself or the old boy have to tie a cow any way we will have a knife ready first!
    Should be part of the green cert

    My rope skill's are fairly average too tbh but I'm improving all the time, like that there's a few lads locally who would rival any cowboy as regards lassoing stock. You have a point about such skills being included in the green cert and other such training, usually Teagasc and the like have top notch facilities compared to the average yard. It never ceases to amaze me how many people are incapable of tying a simple knot. My own better half is an example of such a person, she can tie her laces but will just wrap the rope around something and be amazed when it fails under pressure. I always tie a beast with a bow knot or something similar that can be released almost immediately if needed, having said that I'm still rarely without a pen knife for similar reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Had my eye on this little roan heifer last year, belonging to a neighbour.

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    Tagged her again today, ooch she's a beauty!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭High bike


    Had my eye on this little roan heifer last year, belonging to a neighbour.

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    Tagged her again today, ooch she's a beauty!

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    the one that got away:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    High bike wrote: »
    the one that got away:D

    Not away yet, yet to decide if he'll keep her or sell. Will definitely throw in an offer if she's for sale, but if not, as least I can look at her!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭High bike


    Not away yet, yet to decide if he'll keep her or sell. Will definitely throw in an offer if she's for sale, but if not, as least I can look at her!
    shes something to look at all right, what’s the breeding?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    High bike wrote: »
    shes something to look at all right, what’s the breeding?

    Gamin off that CPW (BB) cow in the top pic. The orangey one behind her is her first daughter, who she had at 16 or 17 months of age after a winter of feeding :pac: Not had to lay a hand on her for calving yet so I'd be hopeful of that red lass having the same habit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Gamin (ZGM) is surprisingly good for daughter's calving, given the shape of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭High bike


    Have they milk??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Gamin (ZGM) is surprisingly good for daughter's calving, given the shape of him.

    Have a gawk at TVR, .5% dau calving difficulty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Have a gawk at TVR, .5% dau calving difficulty.

    Feck. At that rate they'd calf coming sideways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    You gotta love the Amish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Have a gawk at TVR, .5% dau calving difficulty.

    Another reason I'm hoping for a tvr heifer from my blonde, she's due in 3 weeks & not looking too heavy so could be in luck....time will tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    You gotta love the Amish.


    They can use a tractor to pump the slurry but can't use a tractor to spread it?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    Rear end view of my two bulls, one on the left is by Raffertys Emmanuel and was born in May, one on right is by zag and born in November. Not pushed and out wintered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Rear end view of my two bulls, one on the left is by Raffertys Emmanuel and was born in May, one on right is by zag and born in November. Not pushed and out wintered.

    Trim the tails. Makes a big differenec


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Yesterday's arrival.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Some horse. Would be handy at calving time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,832 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    A pic of the two shorthorn heifers during the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    Hi BP, will you breed from them? From memory their purebred? There very nice looking, wouldn’t mind then in my field:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,832 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Hi BP, will you breed from them? From memory their purebred? There very nice looking, wouldn’t mind then in my field:D
    Yes they are going to be the foundation of my suckler herd :eek:

    I'm going to pick two or three hex or six heifers that that you can see in the picture and breed from them - I will double suck them if possible.

    I bought two shx heifer calves yesterday from a dairy farmer friend - the same farmer that I got Daisy from. I will post a pic over the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,832 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    There is a new 30 day compliance cert for show cattle https://www.farmersjournal.ie/new-show-certificate-movement-introduced-455217


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    My Nav boy picked up reserve! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    My Nav boy picked up reserve! :eek:

    Well done. I bet that put a spring in your step. Was it overall reserve?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    My Nav boy picked up reserve! :eek:

    well done, you have a good job done on him.


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