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newtown13 · 13-03-2019 06:46PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-3-23k-miles/21300472?campaign=3

very low milage

terrydel · 13-03-2019 07:29PM

newtown13 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-3-23k-miles/21300472?campaign=3

very low milage

As nice as it looks, I'd want an nct before paying that, especially if it really hasn't had one since 2009.

Sofiztikated · 13-03-2019 07:30PM

terrydel wrote: »

As nice as it looks, I'd want an nct before paying that, especially if it really hasn't had one since 2009.

The NCT pictured is to March '20.

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 08:33PM

The biggest problem with that car is the fact that it has the 1.3 Endura and not the 1.25 Zetec

Toyotafanboi · 13-03-2019 08:36PM

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

13-03-2019 09:12PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

The biggest problem with that car is the fact that it has the 1.3 Endura and not the 1.25 Zetec

Im surprised the 1.3 was even still available in 01, I thought they might have been in error but they show a picture of the engine bay and its not the 1.25 for sure, the engine looks clean and Ive heard people say they were ok, I suppose digital odo was standard at that point

Still it only has 23k miles on it?

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 09:19PM

1874 wrote: »

Im surprised the 1.3 was even still available in 01, I thought they might have been in error but they show a picture of the engine bay and its not the 1.25 for sure, the engine looks clean and Ive heard people say they were ok, I suppose digital odo was standard at that point

Still it only has 23k miles on it?

It has been around more or less for 60 years..its not well regarded at all tbh

The final redesign came in 1995, with the launch of the fourth-generation Ford Fiesta. This edition was effectively another redesign of the Valencia/HCS derivative, known as the Endura-E, and featured many revisions to combat noise and harshness, including a thickened cylinder block. This engine would also be used in the Ka until 2002 where it was replaced by the Duratec and the 1.3 Escort until 2002.

This type of engine still has tappet noise even after adjustment. This noise is said to come from the cams due to incorrect valve setup (when setting valve clearance each cylinder must be set to TDC) or from age and use of incorrect oil grade. The correct oil grade is 5W-30 semi synthetic oil. Another reason is the large tappet clearance on the exhaust valve. This could of course be reduced to lower the noise level but the engine would then suffer from a rough idle and usually stalled.

Despite Ford's engines being well regarded for their ease of service, the Endura-E has a very awkward placing for its oil filter, at the back of the engine and facing from left to right rather than pointing downwards or out, this being a leftover from the original Kent which was normally mounted longitudinally for rear-wheel drive. This mounting position makes it very difficult to access from underneath the car (without a mechanic's ramp), and despite being very short, the can-type oil filter still manages to protrude past the tip of the adjacent starter motor, meaning it is very difficult to remove using chain-type grips.

When compared to the Zetec engine in the exact same car its very difficult to see any redeeming features.

I'm still nearly tempted by it...they are comfortable little cars IMO. I really like them. I suppose if you're going to preserve one too it pays to start with the best example you can find.

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 09:32PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

One owner from April 2001 to September 2013, second from September 2013 to March 2019 (who never once taxed it)..and one dealer owner since last week

I would guess some old dear had it new and hung up the driving gloves in 2013, whoever bought it had planned on keeping it up until it became desirable but sold it in the meantime for whatever reason.

I don't know why but I keep going back to the ad for more looks!

alan partridge aha · 13-03-2019 09:43PM

Pushrod engine in them were pretty reliable.

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 09:56PM

Now this is worth saving!

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1998-toyota-cynos/21308116

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Years test, tax till July, Bridgestone tyres, 1 owner, €800

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 13-03-2019 09:58PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Pushrod engine in them were pretty reliable.

They the ones that would go tap tap tap on every startup?

13-03-2019 10:04PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

It has been around more or less for 60 years..its not well regarded at all tbh

When compared to the Zetec engine in the exact same car its very difficult to see any redeeming features.

I'm still nearly tempted by it...they are comfortable little cars IMO. I really like them. I suppose if you're going to preserve one too it pays to start with the best example you can find.

I thought they were supposed to be reliable engines, Id a 1.25 version, older but with a better spec than that, at the end of its days it was burning oil and prone to some mild rust, family member killed it when they didnt keep a regular eye on it and top it up. Id take that one if I had somewhere to keep it.

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Now this is worth saving!

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1998-toyota-cynos/21308116

Years test, tax till July, Bridgestone tyres, 1 owner, €800

likewise, if only I had somewhere to put it, looks clean (on the outside)

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 10:14PM

Likewise, I’d love the cynos. I had a few and loved them all. They’re Starlet based iirc but feel a million times better inside and are actually very pleasant to drive.

Toyotafanboi · 13-03-2019 10:15PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

One owner from April 2001 to September 2013, second from September 2013 to March 2019 (who never once taxed it)..and one dealer owner since last week

I would guess some old dear had it new and hung up the driving gloves in 2013, whoever bought it had planned on keeping it up until it became desirable but sold it in the meantime for whatever reason.

I don't know why but I keep going back to the ad for more looks!

That looks like a VW brand economy 063 equivalent battery. Definitely been passed through the trade recently IMO. I'd like it. Sure the 1.3 us a mule of an engine but that's its charm too. Really basic and reliable.

If they were both free and I could only have one, I'd take that Fiesta over the Cynos.

marklazarcovic · 13-03-2019 10:28PM

I'd have that cynos if I didn't have a 7 hr round trip

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 10:29PM

I hate when this happens. Something really nice like that Fiesta is posted, I keep looking at it and by the end of the week I somehow end up buying it. Same thing happened when my Corolla was posted here in December..:P

I would be tempted to get rid of my e11 and CA Alto for that Fiesta. Bit pointless taxing two "runarounds" anyway. The Corolla has only done about a thousand miles and the Alto about the same since I got both last year. The effort of trying to sell either of them though is offputting though

elperello · 13-03-2019 10:31PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

Seriously e1150. I don't have a price list to hand but there was no car for that price in that year.
As for Calcutta Spec, that's a new one on me but IMO it's simplicity and low spec is it's charm.

13-03-2019 10:49PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I hate when this happens. Something really nice like that Fiesta is posted, I keep looking at it and by the end of the week I somehow end up buying it. Same thing happened when my Corolla was posted here in December..:P

I would be tempted to get rid of my e11 and CA Alto for that Fiesta. Bit pointless taxing two "runarounds" anyway. The Corolla has only done about a thousand miles and the Alto about the same since I got both last year. The effort of trying to sell either of them though is offputting though

I was on the verge of asking somewhere in motors, Im tempted to have a second car, a usual day to day bus and then something old and nice or interesting, any brokers do multicar insurance, where your car would be covered on the driveway, while you commute in the other. Id prefer to have somewhere to keep them, but thats not happening.

elperello wrote: »

Seriously e1150. I don't have a price list to hand but there was no car for that price in that year.
As for Calcutta Spec, that's a new one on me but IMO it's simplicity and low spec is it's charm.

Maybe he meant 11500? mine was £12000 new a few years before that.

Mad_Mike · 13-03-2019 11:06PM

**DISCLAIMER**

This is my own car (kinda), and just posting a link here, as it fits the bill

2005 2.0D Volvo S40
Taxed until end of April
NCT until July
Very economical car. Does about 5.8-6 litres/100km (About 47-48 mpg)

My wifes car, and she has owned it for the last 2½ years and just fancies a change for something bigger, possibly an estate *

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*Favourable rates for fellow Bangernomics fans

elperello · 13-03-2019 11:12PM

1874 wrote: »

I was on the verge of asking somewhere in motors, Im tempted to have a second car, a usual day to day bus and then something old and nice or interesting, any brokers do multicar insurance, where your car would be covered on the driveway, while you commute in the other. Id prefer to have somewhere to keep them, but thats not happening.

Maybe he meant 11500? mine was £12000 new a few years before that.

I don't know of such a policy but you can get third party for as little as e150 on a thirty year old plus car. I would advise that you get a dry place to keep an old car before buying one. Leaving an old car out in the weather will kill it.

Yes he is probably out by a factor of 10.

Duke O Smiley · 13-03-2019 11:15PM

1874 wrote: »

I was on the verge of asking somewhere in motors, Im tempted to have a second car, a usual day to day bus and then something old and nice or interesting, any brokers do multicar insurance, where your car would be covered on the driveway, while you commute in the other. Id prefer to have somewhere to keep them, but thats not happening.

I have a 97 Corolla with Autoline, fully comp, occasional use with commuting two days out of week, €360 per annum. You must have a “modern” car insured elsewhere for everyday use

Mad_Mike · 13-03-2019 11:15PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Likewise, I’d love the cynos. I had a few and loved them all. They’re Starlet based iirc but feel a million times better inside and are actually very pleasant to drive.

I've always wondered what they are like.
Something about the looks...
I kinda like it, and kinda don't, but that one is certainly one worth thinking about!
These things are making mad money in the States! :eek:

BonnieSituation · 13-03-2019 11:59PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I hate when this happens. Something really nice like that Fiesta is posted, I keep looking at it and by the end of the week I somehow end up buying it. Same thing happened when my Corolla was posted here in December..:P

I would be tempted to get rid of my e11 and CA Alto for that Fiesta. Bit pointless taxing two "runarounds" anyway. The Corolla has only done about a thousand miles and the Alto about the same since I got both last year. The effort of trying to sell either of them though is offputting though

I'll take your Alto.

BonnieSituation · 14-03-2019 12:03AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Now this is worth saving!

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1998-toyota-cynos/21308116

Years test, tax till July, Bridgestone tyres, 1 owner, €800

I am very tempted by that.

Duke O Smiley · 14-03-2019 12:25AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I'll take your Alto.

At this stage I think I've put too much money into it to really justify getting rod of it. New tyres, exhaust, timing belt kit, shocks, battery in the last few months. All very cheap but when you add it up, it doesn't look good

I'm not sure where in the country you are, but I'll be along to the Terenure classic car show in it in July, will be on a stand with a few other kei cars. Come along and have a look at it

BonnieSituation · 14-03-2019 12:37AM

Doesn't look very good when herself finds out.

I'm in Dublin so should hopefully get up to Terenure.

Duke O Smiley · 14-03-2019 12:44AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Doesn't look very good when herself finds out.

I'm in Dublin so should hopefully get up to Terenure.

I'll bring the logbook and a bus pass just in case :pac:

WhiskeyGoblin · 14-03-2019 10:41PM

How would a car like this be for reliability and maintenance?

Anything to look or listen for if I was going to look at it?

BMW 320i Touring
https://www.donedeal.ie/view/21181294

Duke O Smiley · 14-03-2019 10:45PM

They're actually a 4 cylinder, and not a 6 like the earlier 3 series'.

They are prone to burning oil with higher miles, the valve stem oil seals go hard and allow some oil past the valves. I'd be aware of that if you're going to see that one. Nice looking car all the same though

Squidgy Black · 15-03-2019 10:21AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

They're actually a 4 cylinder, and not a 6 like the earlier 3 series'.

They are prone to burning oil with higher miles, the valve stem oil seals go hard and allow some oil past the valves. I'd be aware of that if you're going to see that one. Nice looking car all the same though

Also prone to snap timing chain guides as well, and stretching chains.

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