Changing the registered county on my car

SwordofLight · 11-03-2019 10:24PM #1

Anyway to do this? Would like to have my own county on my reg.

NIMAN · 11-03-2019 10:27PM

Don't think you can.

Atlantic Dawn · 11-03-2019 10:27PM

You can't.

Spook_ie · 11-03-2019 10:30PM

Buy a new car, worth noting if you import a used car it gets the county where you reside

Squatman · 11-03-2019 10:35PM

you can

register the car in northern ireland, or england, and pay the registration fees. Then claim export rebate, then import car back into ireland and pay VRT.

Easy, possible, and not a bit cheap or worthwhile :cool:

Squidgy Black · 11-03-2019 10:39PM

Squatman wrote: »

you can

register the car in northern ireland, or england, and pay the registration fees. Then claim export rebate, then import car back into ireland and pay VRT.

Easy, possible, and not a bit cheap or worthwhile :cool:

Believe it gets assigned it's original reg that's matched to the VIN in that scenario.

bazz26 · 11-03-2019 10:52PM

Squatman wrote: »

you can

register the car in northern ireland, or england, and pay the registration fees. Then claim export rebate, then import car back into ireland and pay VRT.

Easy, possible, and not a bit cheap or worthwhile :cool:

It gets reissued it's old ROI registration plate.

Mint Sauce · 11-03-2019 10:53PM

Squatman wrote: »

you can

register the car in northern ireland, or england, and pay the registration fees. Then claim export rebate, then import car back into ireland and pay VRT.

Easy, possible, and not a bit cheap or worthwhile :cool:

Doesn't the car get it's original reg if you reimport it?

Just buy a new car or import one OP, and be sure you are living in the county that you want the reg to display.

mikeecho · 11-03-2019 10:57PM

Love then or hate them... I can't understand why we never introduced personal number plates.

(Reserving a number isn't the same)

I do realise that 113 , 911 are popular numbers.

CiniO · 11-03-2019 11:03PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Believe it gets assigned it's original reg that's matched to the VIN in that scenario.

bazz26 wrote: »

It gets reissued it's old ROI registration plate.

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Doesn't the car get it's original reg if you reimport it?

Just buy a new car or import one OP, and be sure you are living in the county that you want the reg to display.

All above is not true.

After what Squatman is proposing so exporting and claiming VRT export refund and then importing the car and paying VRT again, it gets assigned new registration numer.

That seems to be the only possible way to obtain new registration numer for a car in Ireland. (effectively just changing reg number).

Please see below for relevant text from Revenue Document:

6.12 Re-imported vehicles
A vehicle that has been removed or exported under the export repayment scheme
and has received a VRT repayment becomes unregistered in the State. If this vehicle
re-enters the State on a permanent basis, it must be presented at an NCTS Centre for
registration within the normal timeframe. VRT is liable at the time of registration
and a new State registration number will be issued. It will not be possible to have
the vehicle motor taxed without receiving the new registration number, as the NVDF
will have recorded that the vehicle under the previous registration number has been
permanently removed or exported. Displaying the original number is an offence
under section 131(6) of the Finance Act of 1992 and is subject to penalties under
section 139 of the same Act

Source: https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/tdm/vehicle-registration-tax/vrt-manual-section-03.pdf

biko · 12-03-2019 09:58AM

Just suck it up OP.
Get the right county next time you buy a car.

ht9zni1gs28crp · 12-03-2019 10:37AM

If VRT wasnt reclaimed on the Export does it revert back to its original number once re registered?

troyzer · 12-03-2019 10:38AM

This might actually be the definition of a first world problem.

Squatman · 12-03-2019 10:40AM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Believe it gets assigned it's original reg that's matched to the VIN in that scenario.

bazz26 wrote: »

It gets reissued it's old ROI registration plate.

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Doesn't the car get it's original reg if you reimport it?

Just buy a new car or import one OP, and be sure you are living in the county that you want the reg to display.

apologise and bow down to your master !

CoBo55 · 12-03-2019 11:14AM

Well, that's 2 minutes of my life wasted...

_Kaiser_ · 12-03-2019 11:16AM

I keep saying that the Government are missing a trick here

All they need to do is allow someone buying a car the opportunity to request a new reg when the VLC goes through - charge say €100 for it even.

Lots of people (including me!) would pay it.. I miss my D-reg!

antodeco · 12-03-2019 11:17AM

Black marker and tippex.

Obviously not road legal.

loyatemu · 12-03-2019 11:25AM

they should scrap the county regs altogether and just have random 2-letter codes. The name of the county is already on the plate.

_Kaiser_ · 12-03-2019 03:08PM

loyatemu wrote: »

they should scrap the county regs altogether and just have random 2-letter codes. The name of the county is already on the plate.

No. Until the nonsense of 1x1/1x2 in 2013 onwards, we had a very clear, easy to understand system.

If we're going to scrap anything just go back to simple 2-digit years.

loyatemu · 12-03-2019 03:12PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No. Until the nonsense of 1x1/1x2 in 2013 onwards, we had a very clear, easy to understand system.

If we're going to scrap anything just go back to simple 2-digit years.

I don't like the non-standard nature of the last section of the plate, could be one digit, could be 6. A national system of YY-LL-NNNN would give us plenty of registrations in a standardised format. You could put the county crest on the place like they do in France.

Isambard · 12-03-2019 05:11PM

i quite like the plates, distinctively Irish.

Mind you, the County initials are illogical, all should be two letters....CK for Cork for instance in fairness to Clare and Cavan.

The Irish county name is superfluous too in my view.

loyatemu · 12-03-2019 05:34PM

Isambard wrote: »

i quite like the plates, distinctively Irish.

Mind you, the County initials are illogical, all should be two letters....CK for Cork for instance in fairness to Clare and Cavan.

The Irish county name is superfluous too in my view.

It was single letters for City Councils and 2 letters for county councils (hence Waterford having both W and WD). Now the merged Tipp councils have gone rogue by using just "T"

Charles Babbage · 12-03-2019 10:38PM

Easy. Import it into Northern Ireland and you can a plate from Antrim, Derry, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Armagh, Down or Belfast.
I'd hurry up though, these will be AM, DY, TY, FH, AH, DN and BT before long.

Wishbone Ash · 12-03-2019 10:47PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Easy. Import it into Northern Ireland and you can a plate from Antrim, Derry, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Armagh, Down or Belfast.
I'd hurry up though, these will be AM, DY, TY, FH, AH, DN and BT before long.

When did Belfast become a County?

Charles Babbage · 12-03-2019 11:13PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

When did Belfast become a County?

When they gave out registration letters.
When did Limerick city become a county or Waterford, prior to the amalgamation? They were county boroughs.

Avatar MIA · 12-03-2019 11:17PM

SwordofLight wrote: »

Anyway to do this? Would like to have my own county on my reg.

I'm guessing you're a Dub.

CiniO · 13-03-2019 01:17AM

miller_63 wrote: »

If VRT wasnt reclaimed on the Export does it revert back to its original number once re registered?

Yes.
If VRT wasn't refunded upon export, car upon returning to Ireland is not due VRT and gets assigned the same reg number it used to have.

CiniO · 13-03-2019 01:22AM

Isambard wrote: »

i quite like the plates, distinctively Irish.

Mind you, the County initials are illogical, all should be two letters....CK for Cork for instance in fairness to Clare and Cavan.

The Irish county name is superfluous too in my view.

Illogical is that they had 26 letters in the alphabet, and 26 counties, but they still decided to use 2 letters for most of them.

Same as that they decided to split year in half, and use who character on number plate to be either 1 or 2 and never anything else.

CiniO · 13-03-2019 01:29AM

Having county letter(s) in reg number is pointless, as it doesn't really show car owners county of residence (except on new car by first owner still living in the same place when he lived when he bought the car). pretty much useless.

If we want to go by years, let's do the following.

2 number showing year.
1 letter changing consecutively every 2 weeks for whole year (26x2 week = 52 weeks = year).
and set of consecutive numbers.

So f.e.

20-A-321 (car registered in first two weeks of 2020)

19-F-1005 (car registered in between 11-12 weeks into 2019 so between 12th and 25th March 2019).

It would be obvious that the higher the letter, then newer then car withing the year.
So this would spread sales evenly over the year as surely someone with reg T could be showing to his neighbours that his car is nearly brand new in October, while someone with reg B or C got their car around January, February.

CiniO · 13-03-2019 01:29AM

Having county letter(s) in reg number is pointless, as it doesn't really show car owners county of residence (except on new car by first owner still living in the same place when he lived when he bought the car). pretty much useless.

If we want to go by years, let's do the following.

2 number showing year.
1 letter changing consecutively every 2 weeks for whole year (26x2 week = 52 weeks = year).
and set of consecutive numbers.

So f.e.

20-A-321 (car registered in first two weeks of 2020)

19-F-1005 (car registered in between 11-12 weeks into 2019 so between 12th and 25th March 2019).

It would be obvious that the higher the letter, then newer then car withing the year.
So this would spread sales evenly over the year as surely someone with reg T could be showing to his neighbours that his car is nearly brand new in October, while someone with reg B or C got their car around January, February.

Wishbone Ash · 13-03-2019 08:25AM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

When they gave out registration letters.
When did Limerick city become a county or Waterford, prior to the amalgamation? They were county boroughs.

Why didn't you mention Derry City and County Derry then which have separate registrations(UI and IW)?

Changing the registered county on my car

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