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Clare GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Mehapoy wrote: »
    probably have to pull Rory hayes for the last two fouls at the end of the game for limericks comback , he did have a guilty look on his face both times , only looking at the replay there in the highlights both were two bad frees to give away

    both especially the 2nd free for the equalizer at the end are normally the type of frees that would be wavered by most ref's here in club games , we really miss paul kinnerk when it comes to things like tackling , look how much limerick have improved since he joined , tom condon is playing the best hurling of his career , ritchie english could barely make the panel and struggled against the weaker sides in division 1b a few years back dan morrisey has probably overlapped diarmuid byarnes as one of the best wing backs in the country

    kiely obviously has a huge impact in how limerick set themselves up but i reckon the level of limericks discipline is down to kinnerk and if you look back to our hurling in 2013 against the next 3 or 4 years our defending deteriorated in his absence regardless of who the manager was
    The same richie english who was fullback on the u21 team of the year in 2015? He was always going to step up to senior after impressing at u21and minor, the other 2 have improved immensly alright, not too many would have had Dan Morrissey on their team at the start of last year.


    Yeah the same lad . He had a very slow start to his intercounty career while showing great promise at underage , has very much came of age over the last 12 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    letowski wrote: »
    So long as we make the QF of the league, this would be the team I would play:

    Touhy
    O'Brien - POC - Browne
    David Mc - Cleary - Fitz
    Galvin - Golden
    Duggan - Kelly - D.Ryan
    Podge/Galvin - Shanagher - Cooney



    Subs that can come in: Hayes, Malone, A. McCarthy, Morey, Deasy, Podge/Galvin

    I cant see them using pat o connor as full back surly they would have given him a few minutes back there over the last few games , morey should come in for browne as another option while O'Brien should be given another chance at 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    media interviews from yesterday from clare tv youtube page , john kiely , david fitzgearld , donal maloney







  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Dean Ryan and Ciaran Russell transferred from Eire Og to Dublin clubs. Ryan to Na Fianna and Russell to Kilmacud Crokes.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    2 big losses for Eire Og but that club has been so badly ran for so long it's no surprise, they've very few players on either senior panel at the moment I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Clareman wrote: »
    2 big losses for Eire Og but that club has been so badly ran for so long it's no surprise, they've very few players on either senior panel at the moment I think.

    Is Davy O'Halloran still on football panel.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I just checked the Clare Twiiter page, they've lovely graphics for all the hurling teams in the league but nothing for the footballers. I think (stress think) that Reidy and Cooney are the only Eire Og players on either panels at the moment


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1081897956171763712

    Looks like I was playing them a dis-service, they had 6 players earlier on in the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Clareman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1081897956171763712

    Looks like I was playing them a dis-service, they had 6 players earlier on in the year

    O'hAinifein from Ruan? I know they don't have football team? Eimhin Courtney doesn't seem to have featured in league. Is there a divider in Ennis where Eire Og and Banner recruit players from?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Gael85 wrote: »
    O'hAinifein from Ruan? I know they don't have football team? Eimhin Courtney doesn't seem to have featured in league. Is there a divider in Ennis where Eire Og and Banner recruit players from?

    Sure Lissycasey had their name on programmes for years even though they didn't have a hurling club.

    No divider just lots of snobbery :pac::pac::pac: AFAIK Gavin Cooney lives next to the Banner grounds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Dean Ryan and Ciaran Russel transferred from Eire Og to Dublin clubs. Ryan to Na Fianna and Russell to Kilmacud Crokes.

    Both living and working in Dublin anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Clareman wrote: »
    2 big losses for Eire Og but that club has been so badly ran for so long it's no surprise, they've very few players on either senior panel at the moment I think.

    Hardly that badly run. Think it’s 3 out of the last 4 or 5 u21 football titles. Won junior a in both codes last year. Certainly have more talent to get to the latter stages of both senior championships more regularly though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Both living and working in Dublin anyway.
    But Dean Ryan still playing with Clare?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    But Dean Ryan still playing with Clare?

    Yeah, they'll continue to play for Clare but play club football in Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Clareman wrote: »
    Yeah, they'll continue to play for Clare but play club football in Dublin

    Jesus lads, I don't know about anyone else but if I was an Eire Og man I'd be a bit pissed off that they can travel down for county training but can't/won't for club?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hardly that badly run. Think it’s 3 out of the last 4 or 5 u21 football titles. Won junior a in both codes last year. Certainly have more talent to get to the latter stages of both senior championships more regularly though.

    Haven't won the hurling since 1990, haven't won the football since 2006, very few players playing on the senior hurling panels but that under 21 team seems to be producing some good footballers. Their finances are in bits, they have a club house in the middle of a highly populated area and they are losing a fortune on it, they nearly destroyed their field thanks to running it as a car park for the Feile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭square ball


    Considering the resources and population available to them they should be dominating both senior hurling and football championships every year.

    Only 1 senior hurler on the county squad is a joke with the numbers of players going through the club from under 6 up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Clareman wrote: »
    2 big losses for Eire Og but that club has been so badly ran for so long it's no surprise, they've very few players on either senior panel at the moment I think.

    That club should be disbanded and 2 clubs set up in its place. There should be 3 senior hurling teams in Ennis. As it is there's one bad one...then doora and Clarecastle are an awful disappointment aswell. N.a. Piarsaigh show what you can do if you pull your resources together in an urban area.. tonnes of other examples.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    That club should be disbanded and 2 clubs set up in its place. There should be 3 senior hurling teams in Ennis. As it is there's one bad one...then doora and Clarecastle are an awful disappointment aswell. N.a. Piarsaigh show what you can do if you pull your resources together in an urban area.. tonnes of other examples.

    When I was younger the worst player to be was the second best player in Ennis because you were never going to get a game because the A team wouldn't release you to the B team, either that or be up against the son of 1 of the selectors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Clareman wrote: »
    Haven't won the hurling since 1990, haven't won the football since 2006, very few players playing on the senior hurling panels but that under 21 team seems to be producing some good footballers. Their finances are in bits, they have a club house in the middle of a highly populated area and they are losing a fortune on it, they nearly destroyed their field thanks to running it as a car park for the Feile.

    I will certainly agree with you regarding the awful record in relation to the senior teams especially hurling. We were even in intermediate for a few years. I actually think they have a good panel of players the last number of years but just aren’t quite performing in certain games. Just look at the kilmaley game this year regardless of SOD being in the US.

    Beat Ballyea in first round of championship when they went onto crime park for the all ireland a couple of years back as well.

    Won the All Ireland feile back in 2000 I think and I’m pretty sure only a small fraction of that team went onto play any part of senior and in my age group I think there is only a handful still playing hurling at various age groups so there has certainly been a problem with how things have run.

    They seem to have got things back on track the last number of years with the setting up of the academy. Big numbers, a few successful teams and seem to be galvanising the club back a little.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Looking from the outside in it seems to me that Eire Og are just doing like they've always done. The Academy was setup in reaction to The Banner getting loads of kids involved, especially girls, their tag line is "Where every child plays" is a great thing to aspire to but I think they are just fooling themselves. A couple of years ago they won the 14 B by a huge margin, sorry but in my opinion with the pick Eire Og have they should never be at B level. The following year they went up to A and they won that as well, great work being put in by the academy and all that but I was at the final and it summed up Eire Og for me. The match was played in terrible conditions with a gale straight up the middle of the pitch, Eire Og got on top early and that was the end of the game, what did they do in the second half when they were playing with the wind? They brought a midfielder back behind the half backs to play as a sweeper and didn't bring on any subs, well they brought on 4 subs just as the final whistle was blown, in my opinion they are more interested in winning that developing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Cian Galvin (Clarecastle) confirmed as captain of the Clare minor hurlers for 2019. Tony Butler (Doora-Barefield) and Diarmuid Cahill (Corofin) named as joint vice-captains of the team. Does anyone know what we can expect from both the Clare minor hurlers and their minor footballers counterparts, for their respective 2019 Munster championship campaigns and how recent challenge matches have gone for both squads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Cian Galvin (Clarecastle) confirmed as captain of the Clare minor hurlers for 2019. Tony Butler (Doora-Barefield) and Diarmuid Cahill (Corofin) named as joint vice-captains of the team. Does anyone know what we can expect from both the Clare minor hurlers and their minor footballers counterparts, for their respective 2019 Munster championship campaigns and how recent challenge matches have gone for both squads?

    i taught meehan from the banner was the hurling captain , apparently bruiser is not keen on lads playing football and hurling together on both panels last year there were several players on both panels , not every player is going to make it as a hurler so up to this level i think its important to have them play both , as they approach u20 and adult level then they can choose whats the best code for them

    apparently bruiser has no problem with lads playing basketball rugby or soccer but football seems out , surprising from a fella who was an extremely talented footballer himself and came very close to playing football for the county years back

    at u17 level these guys are still kids to an extent they should be as active as possible and involved in as many codes as possible , its when they finish secondary level that they should start focusing on one sport

    to answer your question on how well i see both teams progressing , it depends on what your looking for , this development stage, guys like shane meehan and tony butler are still around last year both were excellent but as far as i know the 30 or so panel is made up of at least 10 to 12 players that won the u15 all ireland last year so i imagine player development will feature heavy this year

    they have had recent challenge games against kilkenny , wexford and i think dublin wining 2 out of the 3 since febuary

    in football , dermot coughlan is in charge this year , an excellent coach who has won 3 intermediate championships in the last 6 years with kilrush,clondegad and kilmihil , he wont take any senior team bar his own side kilmurry ibrickane at senior level mainly as his son plays for them , in my opinion he is being groomed as Collins's replacement when ever he decides to step away

    the football development is done differently , because of so many duel players especially from corofin doora/barefield the banner and eire og ect he will draw extra players from say west clare clubs to keep the squad competitive , if the hurling lads opt away from the football it will weaken the panel so not sure what type of team will line out on aprail 10th against limerick

    if the hurlers reached the the munster final it would be seen as a huge achievement given the age profile , while there would be a scertain level of expetancy on the footballers to reach the 2nd round group stage , waterford are having serious problems with duel players , tipp are strong but in the same boat while limerick have a new development plan for football in place but dont expect it to take shape for another couple of years

    Screenshot_u17_football.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    hurling championship times and venues for minors and seniors , lets hope we can make it 3rd time lucky on june 30th

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    mhsc_19_1.png


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    So a match, 3 weeks break and then 3 weeks in a row, that'll be tough going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭letowski


    Clareman wrote: »
    So a match, 3 weeks break and then 3 weeks in a row, that'll be tough going

    Getting momentum will be huge, because at least the last 3 games are either in Ennis or out the Ennis Road. So we should be well supported for those games to give the lads a lift. The game against Waterford will be a difficult test, they will finally be at home and desperate to start well after a bad year last year. Clare will need to be professional with how they approach that game, because they can get a win down there. It would also be beneficial to us if we get Waterford in the QF of the league so we can experience how to they play. The management will have to use their bench more in the c'ship too, we have some good options that can come in and make an impact.

    One thing I want to see us continually doing is making Ennis a fortress. We had two comprehensive wins in the championship last year at home. Our record at home has been quite strong these last 3 or 4 years. We will need two home wins again this year to progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭letowski


    Waterford it is in the QF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    letowski wrote: »
    Waterford it is in the QF.

    the new group system for division 1 next year has almost been confirmed and its almost like we are back in division 1B again

    Division 1

    Group A Teams
    Limerick
    Waterford
    Galway
    Kilkenny/Cork winner
    Westmeath

    Group B Teams
    Wexford
    Clare
    Kilkenny or Cork loser
    Dublin
    Carlow
    Laois


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    could be a lot of shadow boxing next week if its on in walsh park being so close to the big one in may , double header in the park with the footballers playing meath saturday if we win the toss , any idea when it will be confirmed

    semi finals
    limerick v Dublin or Tipperary

    Clare/Waterford v Wexford/Galway


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I'd be surprised if Waterford would want to play us in Waterford before the championship, what's the point in letter Clare get used to the place?


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