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Clocked car

  • 22-02-2019 11:48AM
    #1
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭


    have car 4 days and just found out it has 3 different odometer readings
    1. When for sale on Donedeal 220kms
    2. on car itself 179kms
    3. from garage who has serviced it from 330kms.
    Have informed guards but say its a civil matter engine is f@@ked too
    wasnt given NCT cert as dealer/seller said it was lost but I checked on NCT site
    and it is NCTed till November no odometer reading until i receive duplicate cert
    Motorcheck had no mileage records either.
    Can any advise me as to my next course of action?? Yeh I was stupid but
    whats done is done . What will I say to the dealer/seller when I phone him??
    as he has 5 cars for sale on Donedeal from outside his house I class him as a dealer.
    Any help appreciated, please dont remind me of how stupid I was as I feel stupid enough
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  • #2
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    have car 4 days and just found out it has 3 different odometer readings
    1. When for sale on Donedeal 220kms
    2. on car itself 179kms
    3. from garage who has serviced it from 330kms.
    Have informed guards but say its a civil matter engine is f@@ked too
    wasnt given NCT cert as dealer/seller said it was lost but I checked on NCT site
    and it is NCTed till November no odometer reading until i receive duplicate cert
    Motorcheck had no mileage records either.
    Can any advise me as to my next course of action?? Yeh I was stupid but
    whats done is done . What will I say to the dealer/seller when I phone him??
    as he has 5 cars for sale on Donedeal from outside his house I class him as a dealer.
    Any help appreciated, please dont remind me of how stupid I was as I feel stupid enough

    Call him or go over.

    If he doesn't sort, then you need to get a solicitor or bring a case against him.


  • #3
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Call him or go over.

    If he doesn't sort, then you need to get a solicitor or bring a case against him.

    Just did and denies it was clocked and wont talk to me anymore and put phone
    down cause of my attitude


  • #4
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Just did and denies it was clocked and wont talk to me anymore and put phone
    down cause of my attitude

    Well then you need to go legal.


  • #5
    Southdubin6
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Southdubin6


    Legal route doesn't exist really. AGS are right in saying civil matter. Was it green lighted on Done deal?


  • #6
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,643 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Just did and denies it was clocked and wont talk to me anymore and put phone
    down cause of my attitude

    Call to house- forget ringing , if no joy threaten revenue.


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  • #7
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Thank you all happy to report its all sorted now thank you all for the advice
    much appreciated


  • #8
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Thank you all happy to report its all sorted now thank you all for the advice
    much appreciated

    What was the outcome?


  • #9
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    What was the outcome?

    Refund


  • #10
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,327 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Have you gotten the refund or just agreement to refund?


  • #11
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    I posted about a car I purchased been clocked and timing chain gone the next day after purchase. I got post closed as I thought my money was been refunded.
    How wrong was I ?? Week 2 and despite promises of replacing the car which I was to receive today once again no further along with seeing money or any car.
    All I have is a phone number he brought car to me in which I paid him for doing.All I know he is still donedealing in Dublin15 looking at the website. Oh I received log book he purposely make a joke of my name on it, not in my proper name at all. Least of my worries. I aint a young woman anymore I have grandchildren and retired due to illness. I cant beleive there are car scammers out there who would do such a deplorable act . He is such a smart ass that I wont ring or text him anymore. How do they sleep at night? Do they have no conscience at all? Would he like this to happen to his mother? I will do my upmost to get my money back. Maybe if he was dealing with a man things might be different. Anyway no car no money . Never again will I buy like that but I was sweet talked into it and was blind to see what was happening.


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  • #12
    Lord Nikon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    PM me his name, as I had a similar problem years back with a guy from Blanchardstown/Castle knock area.


  • #13
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    PM me his name, as I had a similar problem years back with a guy from Blanchardstown/Castle knock area.
    dont have his full name and address wish I did


  • #14
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,120 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    I posted about a car I purchased been clocked and timing chain gone the next day after purchase. I got post closed as I thought my money was been refunded.
    How wrong was I ?? Week 2 and despite promises of replacing the car which I was to receive today once again no further along with seeing money or any car.
    All I have is a phone number he brought car to me in which I paid him for doing.All I know he is still donedealing in Dublin15 looking at the website. Oh I received log book he purposely make a joke of my name on it, not in my proper name at all. Least of my worries. I aint a young woman anymore I have grandchildren and retired due to illness. I cant beleive there are car scammers out there who would do such a deplorable act . He is such a smart ass that I wont ring or text him anymore. How do they sleep at night? Do they have no conscience at all? Would he like this to happen to his mother? I will do my upmost to get my money back. Maybe if he was dealing with a man things might be different. Anyway no car no money . Never again will I buy like that but I was sweet talked into it and was blind to see what was happening.

    How are you going to get your money back if you don't have a name or address?
    Bettyboop wrote: »
    dont have his full name and address wish I did


  • #15
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    What checks did you have carried out on the car / it's history before you handed over cash?


  • #16
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    What checks did you have carried out on the car / it's history before you handed over cash?
    motorcheck.ie the fact hes been selling cars since 2010, NCT check


  • #17
    Stacksofwacks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    Caveat emptor is a Latin term that means "let the buyer beware." Similar to the phrase "sold as is," this term means that the buyer assumes the risk that a product may fail to meet expectations or have defects.


  • #18
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Del2005 wrote: »
    How are you going to get your money back if you don't have a name or address?

    I am looking into that he bought the car from a Dealership according to mechanic who serviced the car from brand new until it died and was used as a trade in


  • #19
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    Caveat emptor is a Latin term that means "let the buyer beware." Similar to the phrase "sold as is," this term means that the buyer assumes the risk that a product may fail to meet expectations or have defects.

    Does that include a clocked car ? Not fit for purpose and dangerous


  • #20
    Samuri Suicide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Samuri Suicide


    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    Caveat emptor is a Latin term that means "let the buyer beware." Similar to the phrase "sold as is," this term means that the buyer assumes the risk that a product may fail to meet expectations or have defects.

    Harsh. She's looking for help/advice albeit in the wrong forum.


  • #21
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Does that include a clocked car ? Not fit for purpose and dangerous

    If I promised you a car and you accepted and paid for a tricycle it would apply. Up to you to check it’s not a tricycle before you drive away.


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  • #22
    Stacksofwacks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Does that include a clocked car ? Not fit for purpose and dangerous
    I'm afraid so. Private sale, no contracts etc. All you can do is let others know about this shady dealer or even threaten him that you will do so unless...


  • #23
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    endacl wrote: »
    If I promised you a car and you accepted and paid for a tricycle it would apply. Up to you to check it’s not a tricycle before you drive away.

    Interested , how many wheels has the tricycle got ?


  • #24
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,913 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Keep an eye on done deal, if you recognise a add that might be from him - (you would be surprised how it can sometimes to easy to pick out ads due to photo angles or text or location),
    you could get a couple of rather large gentlemen to go view the car and ask him nicely for with your money back.


  • #25
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    mickdw wrote: »
    Keep an eye on done deal, if you recognise a add that might be from him - (you would be surprised how it can sometimes to easy to pick out ads due to photo angles or text or location),
    you could get a couple of rather large gentlemen to go view the car and ask him nicely for with your money back.

    He has 4 ads selling cars as we speak. My son who is abroad mentioned his
    friends paying him a visit but when you dont know who this guy could be associated with I would be fearful for them


  • #26
    Bettyboop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    Caveat emptor is a Latin term that means "let the buyer beware." Similar to the phrase "sold as is," this term means that the buyer assumes the risk that a product may fail to meet expectations or have defects.
    most helpful


  • #27
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Reporting him to revenue is about all you can do legally. I know loads of stupid illegal thing you could do though!
    I know it doesn't help you get your money back.


  • #28
    Stacksofwacks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    most helpful

    I only quoted what a Judge would say about this in court but it looks like you have help on the case as it is, hopefully it turns out ok for you


  • #29
    Oops!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Oops!


    Stacksofwacks wrote: »
    Caveat emptor is a Latin term that means "let the buyer beware." Similar to the phrase "sold as is," this term means that the buyer assumes the risk that a product may fail to meet expectations or have defects.

    Unfortunately OP this is the reality of your situation going by what you have posted if indeed it was a private sale. By the sounds of it the seller is not interested anymore.... Anybody threatening him will do nothing...

    I'm in the motor trade and see this situation every week... Lesson learned and move on from the situation for your own sake.... It will only stress you out even more.


  • #30
    Stacksofwacks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    Can I ask OP what make of car is it, how old, and how much did you pay for it? If it was an old car for couple grand then you are taking a chance anyway. If its a a fairly new car then you really should be going through a registered dealer with warranty etc


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  • #31
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109417173

    It would seem the OP knew of the risk involved and the need to have the car looked at by a mechanic.
    The seller must be a real charmer when he wants to be to get you to go against your better judgement and of the people on here who you are once again asking for help.


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