Advice in finding a job

whoopsadaisy · 26-02-2019 08:52PM

If you're applying a lot and aren't getting anything at all back then you should take a look at your CV. You might not have a lot of experience but beef your CV out as much as possible - give employers some idea of what you're like and why they should meet you.

Here's how I would lay it out.

Brief personal statement at the top - Describe yourself, your career motivations / interests, and what you're currently looking for.
Education - Start with most recent and work back to Leaving Cert. Include college name, dates attended, course title, a brief description of your studies. Might be worth including any extra curricular activities and / or grade highlights.
Voluntary work experience - Again starting with most recent; name of organisation, dates worked, brief description or bullet points of your main responsibilities.
Skills - Any languages? IT skills? Do you drive? Ever done manual handling / first aid? Include these, you never know what skills might be useful where. Then personal competencies like the usual fare; works well in a team, ability to follow own initiative etc, willing to learn.
Hobbies & Interests

You can't do anything right now about your lack of work experience - but at least having a CV that's neat and tidy, easy to read, and makes you look like you are trying to make a good impression, will put you ahead of a lot of others. I've read A LOT of crap CVs from people with years upon years of work experience.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 09:37PM

Thoie wrote: »

How come?

I was worried about what people would think about me working there and because my stepbrother works in a supermarket and my stepsister a Saturday part time job in a shoe shop but those are better then mcdonalds and i am not worse

Dalomanakora · 26-02-2019 10:33PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

I was worried about what people would think about me working there and because my stepbrother works in a supermarket and my stepsister a Saturday part time job in a shoe shop but those are better then mcdonalds and i am not worse

That's a ridiculously narrow minded way to think. You're too good for McDonald's, but you seemingly have no recognised formal education (because literally nobody here understands what your qualifications actually are, therefore an employer won't either), and no work experience at the age of 26.

Being unemployed for your entire 26 years of life is far, far more shameful than working for McDonald's and earning your money like the rest of us.

And for what it's worth, McDonald's are regularly voted as being great to work for. They treat their staff well. You'd earn an honest wage for an honest day's work. There's nothing to be looked down upon in that.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 10:43PM

Dalomanakora wrote: »

That's a ridiculously narrow minded way to think. You're too good for McDonald's, but you seemingly have no recognised formal education (because literally nobody here understands what your qualifications actually are, therefore an employer won't either), and no work experience at the age of 26.

Being unemployed for your entire 26 years of life is far, far more shameful than working for McDonald's and earning your money like the rest of us.

And for what it's worth, McDonald's are regularly voted as being great to work for. They treat their staff well. You'd earn an honest wage for an honest day's work. There's nothing to be looked down upon in that.

Ha maybe it says alot for you lot when you don't know what my qualifications are when all you lot just think its A Levels. Well you know what IT ISN'T

punisher5112 · 26-02-2019 10:53PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

I was worried about what people would think about me working there and because my stepbrother works in a supermarket and my stepsister a Saturday part time job in a shoe shop but those are better then mcdonalds and i am not worse

Who gives a rat's @ss...

Go live your life and get started on the job front.

You are already way behind and I can tell you a job you are looking for will not fall in your lap or will you be offered anything like what you want until you can show some experience.

Get out get into mcds or stay on the scratch.

I know what I would rather do and be able to say I've paid for everything I have.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 10:56PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Who gives a rat's @ss...

Go live your life and get started on the job front.

You are already way behind and I can tell you a job you are looking for will not fall in your lap or will you be offered anything like what you want until you can show some experience.

Get out get into mcds or stay on the scratch.

I know what I would rather do and be able to say I've paid for everything I have.

Ok i am getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY NOW. Yes I am far behind BUT I HAD NO QUALIFICATIONS WHEN I STARTED COLLEGE. NONE AT ALL.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 10:57PM

And this is it for everybody on here who is too stupid to know the courses I have done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTEC_Extended_Diploma

Twenty Grand · 26-02-2019 10:58PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Ha maybe it says alot for you lot when you don't know what my qualifications are when all you lot just think its A Levels. Well you know what IT ISN'T

But they are though.

A level 3 qualification is the same level as the leaving cert.
You need to take stock of where you are.
26 years old, no appreciable third level qualification and no work experience.

You're in competition with plenty of people who have these in spades and that's why you're getting nowhere.

Have a look at Springboard courses. They're free if you're on benefits and they're targetted at areas where there are jobs.

You can see education comparisons here: https://qhelp.qqi.ie/learners/qualifications-recognition-advice/comparing-qualifications-in-the-uk-and-ireland/Qualifications_Can_Cross_Boundaries.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjqrdL9sdrgAhVVShUIHeUJBMUQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0ebW8Iz0VHsgFPn0Y1TBtm

RedXIV · 26-02-2019 10:58PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Ha maybe it says alot for you lot when you don't know what my qualifications are when all you lot just think its A Levels. Well you know what IT ISN'T

I've been hiring people for years, honestly, if I was looking at that, I'd be thinking of the NFQ framework which to be honest would rank level 3 as a fairly low ranking qualification in the grand scheme of things.

At 26. you'd be expected to have some professional experience so leverage your volunteer experience. But stop selling multiple diplomas as a great reason to get hired, honestly, its not helping you.

And definitely reply back to McDonalds, tell them you were confused about the company in question or something, McDonalds training programme is globally recognised as fantastic.

punisher5112 · 26-02-2019 11:00PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Ok i am getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY NOW. Yes I am far behind BUT I HAD NO QUALIFICATIONS WHEN I STARTED COLLEGE. NONE AT ALL.

WELCOME TO EVERY OTHER POSTERS WORLD THAT HAS TRIED TO HELP.......

IS THIS ME SHOUTING WHEN I TYPE IT LYKE THIS.....

You don't need qualifications to get a job as a labourer or shop floor staff or something along those lines.

If you can show you will work then this can be a good way to start and get some experience.

enricoh · 26-02-2019 11:01PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Ok i am getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY NOW. Yes I am far behind BUT I HAD NO QUALIFICATIONS WHEN I STARTED COLLEGE. NONE AT ALL.

Jaysus, just play xbox instead, it'll be less hassle for u.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:01PM

RedXIV wrote: »

I've been hiring people for years, honestly, if I was looking at that, I'd be thinking of the NFQ framework which to be honest would rank level 3 as a fairly low ranking qualification in the grand scheme of things.

At 26. you'd be expected to have some professional experience so leverage your volunteer experience. But stop selling multiple diplomas as a great reason to get hired, honestly, its not helping you.

And definitely reply back to McDonalds, tell them you were confused about the company in question or something, McDonalds training programme is globally recognised as fantastic.

I am not selling multiple diplomas to help me get hired. I need those qualifications to get into uni. Do you think I would have gotten into uni with Entry 3. NO. I had to get level 3 and the grades needed for that to get into uni which im doing

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:02PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

WELCOME TO EVERY OTHER POSTERS WORLD THAT HAS TRIED TO HELP.......

IS THIS ME SHOUTING WHEN I TYPE IT LYKE THIS.....

You don't need qualifications to get a job as a labourer or shop floor staff or something along those lines.

If you can show you will work then this can be a good way to start and get some experience.

I DO NOT want to be working at a place like that ALL MY LIFE :mad:

The jobs i want to do requires university

Andrew00 · 26-02-2019 11:03PM

Get a job on the sites

Dalomanakora · 26-02-2019 11:03PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

And this is it for everybody on here who is too stupid to know the courses I have done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTEC_Extended_Diploma

So it's equivalent to A-Levels, which is the equivalent to a Leaving Certificate (or a PLC?).

Which isn't any kind of qualification in Ireland really.

Which is where this site is based.

If you're in the UK, I'd suggest you seek advice from a UK forum because they'll know better than us what kind of job an A-Level education would qualify you for.

punisher5112 · 26-02-2019 11:04PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

I DO NOT want to be working at a place like that ALL MY LIFE :mad:

The jobs i want to do requires university

And who says you would or will have to stay there.

I've done many jobs and started legally at 15 and before that worked on my grandparents farm.

I've only been out of work 4 months in this time.

Also it will be near impossible to get a job as you have no experience.

RedXIV · 26-02-2019 11:05PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

I am not selling multiple diplomas to help me get hired. I need those qualifications to get into uni. Do you think I would have gotten into uni with Entry 3. NO. I had to get level 3 and the grades needed for that to get into uni which im doing

Which is great and admirable and genuinely, fantastic that you have the drive to do that.

I'm not trying to question your career goals for Uni, you seem to have that mapped out well, I'm trying to help advise you on getting a job, likely in Ireland as you posted on an Irish forum, using the experience I have from hiring junior people for years.

And from that perspective, I'd massively echo the suggestion to go to McDonalds if at all possible as A) it's a great employer who genuinely invest in their employees

they are well recognised on people's CVs, employers like seeing them as past experience, C) they don't require previous experience which is something you are lacking and D) they are genuinely quite flexible for working around college schedules if you wanted to keep it up when you start uni

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:07PM

RedXIV wrote: »

Which is great and admirable and genuinely, fantastic that you have the drive to do that.

I'm not trying to question your career goals for Uni, you seem to have that mapped out well, I'm trying to help advise you on getting a job, likely in Ireland as you posted on an Irish forum, using the experience I have from hiring junior people for years.

And from that perspective, I'd massively echo the suggestion to go to McDonalds if at all possible as A) it's a great employer who genuinely invest in their employees they are well recognised on people's CVs, employers like seeing them as past experience, C) they don't require previous experience which is something you are lacking and D) they are genuinely quite flexible for working around college schedules if you wanted to keep it up when you start uni

Ok well that is understandable then if this is an Irish website. I didn't know that and I thought it was a fall UK site. If the majority of people are from Ireland here then it is understandable. By apologies for getting angry i misunderstood. The Irish probably have a different education system

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:08PM

my apologies to everybody on here because I did think this was a UK site

dartboardio · 26-02-2019 11:09PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

I DO NOT want to be working at a place like that ALL MY LIFE :mad:

The jobs i want to do requires university

Are you thick? Nobody starting college wants to be at these places for their life. And they wont.

Its a part time bloody job to give you some pocket money through college.

You cant exactly turn your nose up at any job considering its your first time working at 26. With that fact alone it makes you less likely to get employment.

So you may aswell take what you are given.

Calling other people stupid on here is so rude. You asked a question and we are trying to help you. That defensive attitude will get you nowhere. You cant just get a job because you want money. You are gonna have to work with people and the first place you might wanna start is your attitude....

Nobodys part time job in college is where they are stuck for life. Jobs come and go. You dont just fall into the job of your dreams.

BTW the jobs you are applying for wont care about your entry 3 certificates. They just want someone with a can do attitude and a willingness to learn

GalwayGrrrrrl · 26-02-2019 11:10PM

In Ireland there are university graduates with degrees and masters degrees looking for work. A set of diplomas which are equivalent to leaving cert or A levels is the minimum I’d expect from an adult. Most 17/18 year olds have this. You haven’t even started university yet- I get the feeling you will be in for a shock with the difficulty when you get there. In the meantime take any job you can get to pay the bills and get some real life experience.
And if people have taken time to give you advice it’s not nice to be rude to them.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:13PM

dartboardio wrote: »

Are you thick? Nobody starting college wants to be at these places for their life. And they wont.

Its a part time bloody job to give you some pocket money through college.

You cant exactly turn your nose up at any job considering its your first time working at 26. With that fact alone it makes you less likely to get employment.

So you may aswell take what you are given.

Calling other people stupid on here is so rude. You asked a question and we are trying to help you. That defensive attitude will get you nowhere. You cant just get a job because you want money. You are gonna have to work with people and the first place you might wanna start is your attitude....

Im not thick at all. By no means thick. I am one of the only people who started off at a low qualification like entry 3 and worked there way up to university. I am getting the highest marks in my class. I have received two awards for student of the year and excellent reports so i am not thick.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:14PM

GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: »

In Ireland there are university graduates with degrees and masters degrees looking for work. A set of diplomas which are equivalent to leaving cert or A levels is the minimum I’d expect from an adult. Most 17/18 year olds have this. You haven’t even started university yet- I get the feeling you will be in for a shock with the difficulty when you get there. In the meantime take any job you can get to pay the bills and get some real life experience.
And if people have taken time to give you advice it’s not nice to be rude to them.

Like I said i did not know this site was from Ireland. I was under the impression that the majority of people were from England and knew more about the qualifications

dartboardio · 26-02-2019 11:14PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Im not thick at all. By no means thick. I am one of the only people who started off at a low qualification like entry 3 and worked there way up to university. I am getting the highest marks in my class. I have received two awards for student of the year and excellent reports so i am not thick.

Well done you. But dont let that make you think you are too good for the likes of mcdonalds or entry level jobs. Every student works those jobs.

GalwayGrrrrrl · 26-02-2019 11:23PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

my apologies to everybody on here because I did think this was a UK site

For future reference websites ending in .ie are from Ireland. Websites endung in .uk from the UK.

At the moment you are top of your class, congratulations. When you get to university most people there will be top of their class in their respective schools. Prepare to have some humility.

Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:25PM

I am very prepared for the challenge of university

gmisk · 26-02-2019 11:32PM

So you are 26 and have no experience of working at all?

I came from northern Ireland (so a levels then uni) to Dublin when I was 22 after 4 years studying, it was a simple enough ICT phone support job. Partially because they saw I had been working for 6 years before that in pubs and restaurants etc.
I don't understand what would be the issue working in somewhere like McDonald's when you are still studying? What kind of job are you expecting to get at this stage?

jpboard1 · 26-02-2019 11:37PM

Samthefootball wrote: »

Hello I am trying to find a job. I am 26 years old and go to college but i have applied to loads of companies but other then mcdonalds none want to offer me an interview

You need to get a job. Doesn't matter what it is as long as you do it well. It will stand to you. I am involved in recruitment for a large multinational and being in a job always saves a load of questions and doubts. Take the job in Mcdonalds.

rom · 26-02-2019 11:39PM

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Someone report my post so he gets a ban

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Samthefootball · 26-02-2019 11:49PM

rom wrote: »

In the future I think people should have to pass a drivers licence to use the internet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Samthefootball%2Btroll&rlz=1C5CHFA_enIE808IE808&oq=Samthefootball%2Btroll&aqs=chrome..69i57.2229j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Removing the word troll its like your sixteenth chapel of ****e.

Dear MODS: please read the link. This guy basically trolls every single forum there is.

Someone report my post so he gets a ban

http://tinyurl.com/yycao3ey

I think that is very nasty of you because I am not a troll. I have had issues in the past but it doesn't make me a troll

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