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SUV - how to choose!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bazzer007 wrote: »
    People who know about cars are aware of the negative reviews in the UK.


    Funny if you check any website with car reviews and any of the recommendation website all around Europe over last 10 years and Qashqai is always knocking around the top 10 if not top....



    But I suppose they don't cars like you...


    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/qashqai/owner-reviews


    90%+ on reliability....UK website as well....


    Bazzer007 wrote: »
    I don’t want to put the op off buying one but it’s good to know these things & to do your own research. I wanted to buy a cx5 but Mazda Diesel engines are getting bad reviews so I changed my mind.


    So what did you buy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    The “all crossovers have a small boot” is one of the biggest myths going. Firstly all crossovers are not in the same size bracket, a qashqai is really a rival for a hatchback/saloon like a golf etc and compared to these it has a bigger boot.

    Then you have a Tiguan and kuga which are probably the most disappointing from a boot space to overall size but still bigger than any family hatch like a golf or a qashqai.

    The likes of a RAV4 are much bigger in both interior and boot space than a Tiguan or qashqai or family saloon/hatch. A touscon and outlander are a bit bigger again than the rav for boot space.

    All the crossovers especially the bigger ones like rav, outlander are higher so much better for handling baby seats in and out, high boot for easier loading etc.


    The Qashqai has a boot of 430ltr, RAV4 hybrid is 501. Similar to the Mazda CX5. Hardly a huge jump. The Tiguan has a boot of 520. Bigger than both the Qashqai and RAV4.

    The new RAV4 is 580 which is very impressive and hence why I am looking at buying one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    The “all crossovers have a small boot” is one of the biggest myths going. Firstly all crossovers are not in the same size bracket, a qashqai is really a rival for a hatchback/saloon like a golf etc and compared to these it has a bigger boot.

    Then you have a Tiguan and kuga which are probably the most disappointing from a boot space to overall size but still bigger than any family hatch like a golf or a qashqai.

    The likes of a RAV4 are much bigger in both interior and boot space than a Tiguan or qashqai or family saloon/hatch. A touscon and outlander are a bit bigger again than the rav for boot space.

    All the crossovers especially the bigger ones like rav, outlander are higher so much better for handling baby seats in and out, high boot for easier loading etc.

    I agree it's a myth.

    Kuga is 450 litres
    5 series is 520 litres (f10)

    The kuga has way more useable space.

    Just went cork to Dublin in kuga.
    2 buggies, box of clothes, box of work gear, 4 bags of clothes, 5 or 6 jackets and some other gear. All in boot. And all below the seat level bar top of a buggy.

    Boot is also flat at bottom and seats collapse flat with pull of 2 levers.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The Qashqai has a boot of 430ltr, RAV4 hybrid is 501. Similar to the Mazda CX5. Hardly a huge jump. The Tiguan has a boot of 520. Bigger than both the Qashqai and RAV4.

    The new RAV4 is 580 which is very impressive and hence why I am looking at buying one.

    The rav4 diesel (the one I’m looking at) has 547 liters that being said I cannot see how the Tiguan has 520 liters. Viewed an Outlander, RAV4 (both second hand), Tiguan and Kuga (both brand new) within an hour of each other recently. Outlander clearly had the biggest boot but the rav wasn’t far behind. The Tiguan boot was noticibely smaller (particularly the boot lip to back seats distance) than both the Rav and outlander and we discounted it immediately because of this. Kuga we didn’t even open the boot sat in and immediately disliked it so just left before the sales man came over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    The rav4 diesel (the one I’m looking at) has 547 liters that being said I cannot see how the Tiguan has 520 liters. Viewed an Outlander, RAV4 (both second hand), Tiguan and Kuga (both brand new) within an hour of each other recently. Outlander clearly had the biggest boot but the rav wasn’t far behind. The Tiguan boot was noticibely smaller (particularly the boot lip to back seats distance) than both the Rav and outlander and we discounted it immediately because of this. Kuga we didn’t even open the boot sat in and immediately disliked it so just left before the sales man came over.


    I went into VW at weekend at Liffey Valley, looked in Tiguan boot and walked out and across the road to the Toyota place. The boot in RAV4 looked huge compared to the Tiguan


    No idea on the previous gen RAV4 diesel, I know it is bigger but I have only seen the hybrid boot


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Bazzer007


    The Qashqai is a crossover, therefore it can’t be compared to a Rav 4, Outlander etc. The op will be as confused as a cow on Astro turf when you keep comparing the Qashqai to the aforementioned. This thread is about helping the op with her purchase. X-Trail is in the same league as Rav 4, Outlander etc. Op needs to decide if she’d like a crossover or SUV.

    To answer your question I bought a Subaru Forester. Has a massive boot & in my opinion it’s one of the best handling SUV’s out there. I need 4wd & I tow an 8x5 trailer for odd jobs so works for me.

    I’ll stick with the data from over from the car buyers guide, a reputable source. Perhaps the Qashqai would be a perfect buy for you. You have lots in common as you’re both slow on the pick up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bazzer007 wrote: »
    The Qashqai is a crossover, therefore it can’t be compared to a Rav 4, Outlander etc. The op will be as confused as a cow on Astro turf when you keep comparing the Qashqai to the aforementioned. This thread is about helping the op with her purchase. X-Trail is in the same league as Rav 4, Outlander etc. Op needs to decide if she’d like a crossover or SUV.

    To answer your question I bought a Subaru Forester. Has a massive boot & in my opinion it’s one of the best handling SUV’s out there. I need 4wd & I tow an 8x5 trailer for odd jobs so works for me.

    I’ll stick with the data from over from the car buyers guide, a reputable source. Perhaps the Qashqai would be a perfect buy for you. You have lots in common as you’re both slow on the pick up.

    The OP already said the Qashqai suited

    Childish jibes work for you in real life? Or you just a little keyboard warrior on a anonymous forum??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    I have a Rav and the boot is huge.
    I dont know why the average person would need anything bigger.
    The boot is square too so when all the seats are down the car is almost like a van.

    Very nice car to drive and have had no issues in six years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    tretorn wrote: »
    I have a Rav and the boot is huge.
    I dont know why the average person would need anything bigger.
    The boot is square too so when all the seats are down the car is almost like a van.

    Very nice car to drive and have had no issues in six years.


    Pram's :P


    We have a bugaboo and a Out N About. My wife bought the Galaxy so she had the ability to bring both prams with her in the car instead of taking them in and out depending on how many kids was going with her...


    Also we do yearly trips overseas, you are not long filling up a car with s**t, we can downsize now because prams are not needed as much and for yearly trip a roof box will do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    I can fit two adult bikes in mine and golf clubs and a full weeks shopping.

    Its a big car.

    Also you can get a mans bike in and still take a passenger.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bazzer007 wrote: »
    The Qashqai is a crossover, therefore it can’t be compared to a Rav 4, Outlander etc. The op will be as confused as a cow on Astro turf when you keep comparing the Qashqai to the aforementioned. This thread is about helping the op with her purchase. X-Trail is in the same league as Rav 4, Outlander etc. Op needs to decide if she’d like a crossover or SUV.

    To answer your question I bought a Subaru Forester. Has a massive boot & in my opinion it’s one of the best handling SUV’s out there. I need 4wd & I tow an 8x5 trailer for odd jobs so works for me.

    I’ll stick with the data from over from the car buyers guide, a reputable source. Perhaps the Qashqai would be a perfect buy for you. You have lots in common as you’re both slow on the pick up.


    Google RAV4 the original Crossover......just one of links below



    http://www.toyotaofseattle.com/blogs/2066/cars/toyota-rav4-the-original-crossover-suv/


    Toyota refer to the RAV as a Crossover.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    tretorn wrote: »
    I can fit two adult bikes in mine and golf clubs and a full weeks shopping.

    Its a big car.

    Also you can get a mans bike in and still take a passenger.


    Where are the kids with the 2 bikes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Bazzer007


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Google RAV4 the original Crossover......just one of links below



    http://www.toyotaofseattle.com/blogs/2066/cars/toyota-rav4-the-original-crossover-suv/


    Toyota refer to the RAV as a Crossover.....

    Ah here you're wrecking this thread. Other posters have already specified the differences between the Rav and the Qashqai. If you parked both beside each other the size difference alone is considerable. Seriously you're referencing a US based blog. Christh on a bike the Rav is marketed as an SUV and is an SUV.

    I know the op referenced the Qashqai, but comparing it to the Rav is unhelpful. If the op would like to buy something of similar size like the Qashqai the op should also consider the Mitsubishi ASX, Skoda Karoq, Subaru xv, Suzuki Vitara etc., and try and get the best deal possible. The above are similar in size and class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭heretothere


    Thanks for the other suggestions, going to look them up now. I drove a 1990 Pajero when I lived in Australia so I'm not put off by it being too big. It's more so fuel economy. Also I don't mind if there are 10 Qashqui's outside the school, I want a mammy car! Something super safe, reliable, big enough for a buggy and decent on fuel :D


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