Is having a Casino in your town similar to a brothel?

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 3:07pm #1

This is a story that has being going on locally now for awhile.A company proposed to turn a pub into a casino(mainly machines). A petition was set up and some locals objected but planning was granted and the appeal also failed. They are now trying to stop it getting it's licence.
The man who started the petition has now said
''Some employment comes with a price. Just because a brothel or lap dancing club employs people, does that make it OK?"
So the main objection is on the basis it's adding more gambling to the town which already has three bookies and schools being nearby.(It will be over eighteens tough)
I do understand people's concerns but the local business have no problem selling lotto tickets/etc in there shops. Which is also hooking people on gambling.

Is having a Casino in your town similar to a brothel?

https://quinnsquillmunsternews.blogspot.com/2019/01/proposed-casino-for-mitchelstown.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR042nfirbeZ9bHfZMyI7bTiR_lk2eV4D_lugoedrFpRA63AG5af--fDK7Y

The Talking Bread · 20-01-2019 3:07pm

No.

wirelessdude01 · 20-01-2019 3:13pm

No. What a stupid thing to think. Shows how backwards these people are.

Johnnyhpipe · 20-01-2019 3:15pm

Yes. I normally lose my bollocks in both of them

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 3:17pm

Just to note I don't think it's similar to having a brothel in town. The local businesses have no problem selling alcohol/lottery projects which the youth can access.
I personally get people's concerns but I wouldn't object to it.
The man who said the comment is always giving out about the governments/etc and appears to be into the yellow vest movement.

colm_mcm · 20-01-2019 3:18pm

It’s not going to add anything positive to the town, apart from the few jobs that it creates. The negatives outweigh the positives and I can see why you wouldn’t want one in a small town.
I don’t think he was saying they were literally the same thing.

20-01-2019 3:18pm

What people do discreetly is their own business.

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 3:22pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s not going to add anything positive to the town, apart from the few jobs that it creates. The negatives outweigh the positives and I can see why you wouldn’t want one in a small town.
I don’t think he was saying they were literally the same thing.

I get this but the same business owners who come out with this line have no issue supplying people with their addictions on a day to day basis.

branie2 · 20-01-2019 3:42pm

I don't think so

TheValeyard · 20-01-2019 3:43pm

Meh,

Last thing we need is more gambling outlets. Most towns are already blighted with ugly looking betting shops.

Fighting Tao · 20-01-2019 3:45pm

Some parts of Ireland still seem to be stuck in a pre 1990 era.

Guy:Incognito · 20-01-2019 3:49pm

What's wrong with brothels and lap dancing clubs?

orourkeda1977 · 20-01-2019 3:50pm

I've never been sucked off in a casino

kildare lad · 20-01-2019 3:51pm

Whats the difference between a casino and a bookies in your town??

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 3:52pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What's wrong with brothels and lap dancing clubs?

I suppose some might think they are demeaning to women and will bring men off ill repute to the area.
The guy who made the comment is very liberal but it's hard to know how he'll swing on matters.

biko · 20-01-2019 3:56pm

It's strange comparison to make.

The Talking Bread · 20-01-2019 4:07pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What's wrong with brothels and lap dancing clubs?

Well most of what goes on in a brothel i illegal for starters

Hammer89 · 20-01-2019 6:21pm

Not really. I only withdraw once in a brothel.

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 6:21pm

kildare lad wrote: »

Whats the difference between a casino and a bookies in your town??

I'm not sure. People are afraid that kids/etc will use the machines!

Trigger Happy · 20-01-2019 6:31pm

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

I've never been sucked off in a casino

Get thee to Atlantic city.

Pauliedragon · 20-01-2019 6:31pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I suppose some might think they are demeaning to women and will bring men off ill repute to the area.
The guy who made the comment is very liberal but it's hard to know how he'll swing on matters.

Your right but I think that's also outdated. I've met/worked with a few strippers and they actually feel it's the other way around. They make fools out of the men that go in there. If a woman wants to strip for a living good luck to her I say. Brothels should also be legal. Not every bloke who goes to a brothel is some slimy pervert. I reckon a casino would cause more damage in the long run as that can ruin entire families. A bloke paying a woman to get his jollies off is causing no harm as long as that woman is a willing participant and he's not spending the family budget there.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-01-2019 6:38pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Your right but I think that's also outdated. I've met/worked with a few strippers and they actually feel it's the other way around. They make fools out of the men that go in there. If a woman wants to strip for a living good luck to her I say. Brothels should also be legal. Not every bloke who goes to a brothel is some slimy pervert. I reckon a casino would cause more damage in the long run as that can ruin entire families. A bloke paying a woman to get his jollies off is causing no harm as long as that woman is a willing participant and he's not spending the family budget there.

Yes but all women who work in knocking shops are forced at gunpoint to work there

Do you not listen to your betters in the state funded quangos?

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 6:43pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Your right but I think that's also outdated. I've met/worked with a few strippers and they actually feel it's the other way around. They make fools out of the men that go in there. If a woman wants to strip for a living good luck to her I say. Brothels should also be legal. Not every bloke who goes to a brothel is some slimy pervert. I reckon a casino would cause more damage in the long run as that can ruin entire families. A bloke paying a woman to get his jollies off is causing no harm as long as that woman is a willing participant and he's not spending the family budget there.

Yes I get this point of view.
I think people are very prudish regarding sex now a days.

Ash.J.Williams · 20-01-2019 6:43pm

They definitely lower the tone of a small town. Drove through kildare Town main street recently and it's unrecognisable.

The Talking Bread · 20-01-2019 6:49pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

They definitely lower the tone of a small town. Drove through kildare Town main street recently and it's unrecognisable.

From when? Kildare town hasn't changed in my lifetime generally!

freshpopcorn · 20-01-2019 6:51pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

They definitely lower the tone of a small town. Drove through kildare Town main street recently and it's unrecognisable.

There was a murder in a pub last year and it didn't lower the tone that much apart from a few outraged locals on Facebook.

Pauliedragon · 20-01-2019 6:51pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Yes I get this point of view.
I think people are very prudish regarding sex now a days.

They are fresh but what I find amusing is the clothes I see teenage girls wearing in Summer in Ireland literally show more flesh than the hookers on the streets in kings cross Sydney when I lived there yet I bet those parents would be the first to complain if a strip club wanted to open up. Sorry a bit off topic maybe I should start my own thread.

Edgware · 20-01-2019 8:38pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Meh,

Last thing we need is more gambling outlets. Most towns are already blighted with ugly looking betting shops.

And charity shops

Wheres Me Jumper? · 20-01-2019 8:40pm

no. with a knocking-shop you are likely to lose 50 bucks. with a casino you'll lose your shirt.

Hammer89 · 21-01-2019 7:54am

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

no. with a knocking-shop you are likely to lose 50 bucks. with a casino you'll lose your shirt.

Is that where you lost your jumper?

21-01-2019 8:38am

Legalise and regulate brothels and everybody benefits except the criminals. That should be a no-brainer. But follow Italy's example and ban all advertising by the gambling industry. It's not some sort of harmless, joke addiction. Far from it.

xzanti · 21-01-2019 10:27am

Deleted User wrote: »

Legalise and regulate brothels and everybody benefits except the criminals. That should be a no-brainer. But follow Italy's example and ban all advertising by the gambling industry. It's not some sort of harmless, joke addiction. Far from it.

Completely agree. Brothels are never going to go away. Make it legal and safe for the women and tax it.

Gambling is a bigger scourge on people's lives imho.

ImARebel · 21-01-2019 10:31am

xzanti wrote: »

Gambling is a bigger scourge on people's lives imho.

totally agree

Grayson · 21-01-2019 10:35am

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s not going to add anything positive to the town, apart from the few jobs that it creates. The negatives outweigh the positives and I can see why you wouldn’t want one in a small town.
I don’t think he was saying they were literally the same thing.

Gambling can be incredibly harmful. Thing is though, a casino is no worse than a bookies shop. I'd like to see them all go, but if one is allowed, so should the other.

freshpopcorn · 21-01-2019 11:37am

Grayson wrote: »

Gambling can be incredibly harmful. Thing is though, a casino is no worse than a bookies shop. I'd like to see them all go, but if one is allowed, so should the other.

This is where I actually stand on the matter.
Even some of the business owners will happily sell countless lottery tickets to people who are clearly compulsive gamblers.

Mr. Incognito · 21-01-2019 11:40am

Google Logical Fallacy

Deebles McBeebles · 21-01-2019 11:54am

We have both in my town. Livin' it up here, I am.

Dravokivich · 21-01-2019 12:16pm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Well most of what goes on in a brothel i illegal for starters

Only because it involves a number of providers.

Dravokivich · 21-01-2019 12:17pm

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

I've never been sucked off in a casino

It seems we're going to the wrong casinos!

21-01-2019 12:45pm

Gambling, sex, drugs are all 'vices' I suppose. So to some people a casino would be in the vice category the same as a brothel.

What many people seem to forget is that money is also a vice, and very often we hear about someone held in high regard who has been very successful financially, that has no 'bad habits'. Doesn't drink, smoke, gamble or chase women/men

the_syco · 21-01-2019 12:59pm

The objector is most likely doing so as it goes against their catholic ethos, without seeing the irony of his weekly sins.

freshpopcorn · 21-01-2019 1:02pm

the_syco wrote: »

The objector is most likely doing so as it goes against their catholic ethos, without seeing the irony of his weekly sins.

The main man behind it hates the church/religion! He's very left regarding issues.

sbsquarepants · 21-01-2019 1:28pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Is having a Casino in your town similar to a brothel?

Jaysus no, losing your bollox in a brothel is a whole order of magnitude worse than losing it in a casino.:D

GAA Beo · 21-01-2019 1:39pm

the_syco wrote: »

The objector is most likely doing so as it goes against their catholic ethos, without seeing the irony of his weekly sins.

Good man, get the anti Catholic jibe in before you know anything else. Fool.

GAA Beo · 21-01-2019 1:42pm

There are a few casinos and arcades in my town. I've not noticed any anti social behaviour regarding them. Would barely know they are there. I do agree with others though, there should be a limit on the number of bookies. But online gambling is the big problem at the moment, not the shops as much. Although the fruit machines and virtual racing should be banned IMO.

Samuel T. Cogley · 21-01-2019 1:43pm

Just shows how repressed we are tbh, I'd rather have a properly run, discrete brothel open up than some dodgy 'casino'.

yegorzima · 09-02-2019 4:40pm

No, it's not like that at all, these are different things. By the way I lived in another town a few months ago and there wasn't any casino so I could do nothing but play on drakemall and it seemed to me even better than common ones. I've won xbox last time when I bought <snip>. Everyone can try their luck there to win something useful

mvl · 09-02-2019 7:42pm

Think there is some sort of casino here - and it doesn't bother me.
- also, I would have no objection of having a legal brothel in same town - cause I hate hearing about what's going underground anyway (e.g. asylum seekers having to sell service to make money for their bosses, or apartments in family friendly neighborhoods being rented to prostitutes for business).
Just one condition ... hope these legal brothels would provide equal employment opportunities :pac:

yegorzima · 15-02-2019 6:45am

No, it's not like that at all, these are different things. By the way I lived in another town a few months ago and there wasn't any casino so I could do nothing but play on drakemall and it seemed to me even better than common ones. I've won xbox last time when I bought mystery box. Everyone can try their luck there to win something useful

evil_seed · 15-02-2019 8:56am

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Well most of what goes on in a brothel i illegal for starters

Are you saying sex is illegal? nothing illegal about it.
It's the transaction that's illegal... here.

Peregrinus · 15-02-2019 9:01am

evil_seed wrote: »

Are you saying sex is illegal? nothing illegal about it.
It's the transaction that's illegal... here.

Actually, the transaction is not illegal either. It's the brothelkeeping that's illegal.

Is having a Casino in your town similar to a brothel?

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