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Replacing brake pads and brake discs. Costs / good value garage Dublin?

  • 04-02-2019 02:49PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys. In the past couple of weeks there has been a strange rumbling noise coming from my car when breaking. Today I decided to remove my front right and back right wheel to have a closer inspection. The pads look like they are worn all the way down so defiantly need to replace them. Same for the discs.

    I drive a 2010 Hyundai i30.

    I changed the rear pads on a Nissan Primera 2004 before but found it to be quite time consuming. Also run the risk of damaging my break fluid lines.

    Question is how much should it cost for a garage to replace pads, discs and labor?

    Quotes so far are averaging around €600

    Can I get some recommendations for good value garages around the Dublin 8 area. Further out is fine as well. Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    Mid range discs are circa 60 to 80 plus pads say 80 for mid range front and rear ( for both)leaves you at roughly 400 odd depending, then labour and vat.

    600 not crazy if all corners are new if location is handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,586 ✭✭✭newmember2


    Price the discs and pads yourself in your local factors or €bay to give you an idea what you're being charged for labour. Would think a mechanic would get them done in an hour although the going rate might be an hour for each end. I got Ate discs and pads all round for an Audi A8 for €300.



    https://www.ebay.ie/itm/EBC-FRONT-REAR-DISCS-AND-PADS-FOR-HYUNDAI-I-30-1-4-2007-12/121805656079?hash=item1c5c2ed00f:g:tDkAAOSwDrNZP1t5:rk:46:pf:0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,207 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Charged 400 for front pads and disks on a 2010 mondeo a few years ago.
    Got the same job done + a new caliper in a different garage for 380 a few weeks ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    600EUR is way too high price. The good front discs cost about 30EUR each. 4 pads about the same price. Te hardware 5EUR. If you like to go the cheapest option then disc 20EUR and pads 13EUR. Labor do not pay over 1 hour, it is around 40EUR + tax (total about 50EUR). So total 145EUR + 5EUR tip = 150EUR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    w211 wrote: »
    600EUR is way too high price. The good front discs cost about 30EUR each. 4 pads about the same price. Te hardware 5EUR. If you like to go the cheapest option then disc 20EUR and pads 13EUR. Labor do not pay over 1 hour, it is around 40EUR + tax (total about 50EUR). So total 145EUR + 5EUR tip = 150EUR.

    Ah, stop.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    Ah, stop.




    Why? I can to do all day long by that price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    w211 wrote: »
    Why? I can to do all day long by that price.

    If you can price them at that, then the place you are buying them from has probably a 20/30 % margin, which makes them VERY cheap....:rolleyes:

    Just out of curiosity, how much for 2 rear discs, set of pads and a rear (electric) caliper for a 2009 Passat ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    w211 wrote: »
    Why? I can to do all day long by that price.

    In your driveway, maybe, with the lowest quality parts you can find.

    Any serious business with any level of legitimate overheads won't be retailing brake pads for €13 or labour for €40 per hour including VAT, or if they do they wont be in business for long.

    I think it's unrealistic to suggest to the OP that they may find prices in line with that as this will make finding a repairer harder for them.

    I agree, €600 is mildly expensive, but not awful, particularly when pricing in Dublin city. I'd expect to may €200-250 per axle maybe, for good quality parts fitted by a reputable workshop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    swarlb wrote: »
    If you can price them at that, then the place you are buying them from has probably a 20/30 % margin, which makes them VERY cheap....:rolleyes:

    Just out of curiosity, how much for 2 rear discs, set of pads and a rear (electric) caliper for a 2009 Passat ?


    Ok first things first, I do not advertising here. I made the calculation what is the reasonable price. The brands what I used for calculations was Delphi, Febi, Metzger, brembo, TRW and others. All was very similar price. Yes the final price depends by your car VIN code. Some models have a very specific parts, especially the early production versions.

    EDIT: Passat 2009, I need the VIN number to find the right parts. Estimated price rear disc set TRW/Mapco (2pcs) 55EUR, pads set TRW/Mapco (4pcs) 25EUR, hardware 5EUR and TRW brake calipers set (2pcs, electric) 395EUR. What happens with electric calipers? Why you need the new one? There is available the repair kits too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Pads and discs (genuine) for your car are €500 plus VAT, make of that what you will


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Pads and discs (genuine) for your car are €500 plus VAT, make of that what you will

    That genuine Hyundai parts are off the wall. I worked in a Hyundai dealer (2x actually) and looking back it's hard to imagine how we ever sold anything.

    Just the other day, we had a Sportage in for used car prep and it needed front pads and discs, we would always put genuine parts on the non franchise stuff to be safe and front pads and discs from Kia were just under €600+vat for the parts at trade!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Learn how to do them yourself, It is really easy on most cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    That genuine Hyundai parts are off the wall. I worked in a Hyundai dealer (2x actually) and looking back it's hard to imagine how we ever sold anything.

    Just the other day, we had a Sportage in for used car prep and it needed front pads and discs, we would always put genuine parts on the non franchise stuff to be safe and front pads and discs from Kia were just under €600+vat for the parts at trade!

    Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. All depends on your area too IMO, my last garage (also Hyundai) we sold mainly spurious because it's more 'middle class'. This one, however, is 'upper class' and people mainly go genuine.

    Non-franchise get spurious and that's that :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. All depends on your area too IMO, my last garage (also Hyundai) we sold mainly spurious because it's more 'middle class'. This one, however, is 'upper class' and people mainly go genuine.

    Non-franchise get spurious and that's that :pac:


    There is no any reason to sell/buy/use the fake ones. Or what you means about that? The compatible brands are not fake ones. The fake ones cost really cheap price, 7EUR disc and 5EUR pads.I do not suggest these even to enemies. The car brakes are too important. Most of the cars using the compatible brake systems because these qualify for OEM specification. Yes every manufacturer can use OEM logo on package if they follow the specs. The genuine are for freaks, who can pay 1k for simple brake job, it is about 5-6 times higher than average cost!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    newmember? wrote: »
    Price the discs and pads yourself in your local factors or €bay to give you an idea what you're being charged for labour. Would think a mechanic would get them done in an hour although the going rate might be an hour for each end. I got Ate discs and pads all round for an Audi A8 for €300.



    https://www.ebay.ie/itm/EBC-FRONT-REAR-DISCS-AND-PADS-FOR-HYUNDAI-I-30-1-4-2007-12/121805656079?hash=item1c5c2ed00f:g:tDkAAOSwDrNZP1t5:rk:46:pf:0

    have you had any problems with your discs warping? My 5 Series is an Automatic, and I'm trying to convince myself that they haven't warped, due to the problems I'm having at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Learn how to do them yourself, It is really easy on most cars.


    I suppose it is if your handy and happen to have a ramp in your driveway. Would it not prove difficult otherwise?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    Warping can happens if you drive as maniac. These are possible to restore if there is left enough thickness but it cost way too much money compared by brand new one. Reasonable to do only if your discs cost hundreds of euros.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    chicorytip wrote: »
    I suppose it is if your handy and happen to have a ramp in your driveway. Would it not prove difficult otherwise?




    It does not need any ramp. You need to lift only so much to get the wheel off. The standard car jack can works ok, only it is not very safe without axle stand. Without axle stands, just keep it on memory the car can fall down if you using too much power. All depends how well was done the previous job. If the previous mechanic did not used the loctite/anti-seize, then you have a load of trouble. Possible to do by hand tools, only takes a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,586 ✭✭✭newmember2


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    have you had any problems with your discs warping? My 5 Series is an Automatic, and I'm trying to convince myself that they haven't warped, due to the problems I'm having at the moment.

    No, no problem with the discs warping. What problems have you got?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 tmcdlk


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    have you had any problems with your discs warping? My 5 Series is an Automatic, and I'm trying to convince myself that they haven't warped, due to the problems I'm having at the moment.

    Did you have your wheels refurbished or have non factory wheels?
    Common problem with the F10 is when the wheels are refurbished the inner centre part that contacts the hub flange has been painted. This causes a reduction in the heat transfer from the brake disc to the wheel and the brake disc overheats. The solution is to remove all paint in this area down to a clean bare aluminium to allow heat transfer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    w211 wrote: »
    There is no any reason to sell/buy/use the fake ones. Or what you means about that? The compatible brands are not fake ones. The fake ones cost really cheap price, 7EUR disc and 5EUR pads.I do not suggest these even to enemies. The car brakes are too important. Most of the cars using the compatible brake systems because these qualify for OEM specification. Yes every manufacturer can use OEM logo on package if they follow the specs. The genuine are for freaks, who can pay 1k for simple brake job, it is about 5-6 times higher than average cost!!!

    Of course there is, profit margins ;)

    Also, I mentioned nothing about fake parts so take that stick out of your hole :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    have you had any problems with your discs warping? My 5 Series is an Automatic, and I'm trying to convince myself that they haven't warped, due to the problems I'm having at the moment.

    5 series is very brake sensitive, never go for the cheapest. Best to leave them to BMW with OE parts, €650 for front disk and pads with BMW First is not bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    New front pads and disks, Pagid and Brembo with sensor, Skoda Superb 3.

    Parts €100, fitting €80 at an Indy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    newmember? wrote: »
    No, no problem with the discs warping. What problems have you got?

    Car shakes and steering wheel when barely applying brakes, shakes like crazy if applied harder.

    Tracking is fine, wheel doesn't shake when driving. Doesn't pull to left or right either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    tmcdlk wrote: »
    Did you have your wheels refurbished or have non factory wheels?
    Common problem with the F10 is when the wheels are refurbished the inner centre part that contacts the hub flange has been painted. This causes a reduction in the heat transfer from the brake disc to the wheel and the brake disc overheats. The solution is to remove all paint in this area down to a clean bare aluminium to allow heat transfer.

    Standard 18" OEM wheels, no refurb done on them since I have the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    5 series is very brake sensitive, never go for the cheapest. Best to leave them to BMW with OE parts, €650 for front disk and pads with BMW first is not pad.

    I used Valeo discs and Pagid pads. Not cheapo brands by any means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Lord Nikon wrote: »
    I used Valeo discs and Pagid pads. Not cheapo brands by any means.

    If discs and pads are OK and wheels are balanced, next stop would be control arms. You probably know at this stage that you are not alone with this issue on the F10/E60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DarraghR


    Atlas in Kimmage said the total cost should be €280 but they need to take it in to have a look first. This will cost €70 but that will come off the job if I go ahead with it. Too risky as they could come back and say the job and parts will be €600 ... Stupid they cant or wont get an accurate quote with reg number provided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    €70 just to look at your disk and pads? It's a 20 second job. Jesus wept.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    DarraghR wrote: »
    Atlas in Kimmage said the total cost should be €280 but they need to take it in to have a look first. This will cost €70 but that will come off the job if I go ahead with it. Too risky as they could come back and say the job and parts will be €600 ... Stupid they cant or wont get an accurate quote with reg number provided.


    I can make for you the solid estimated price, only need to know the vin code


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