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Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

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  • #1472
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    gar wrote: »
    Quick query before i got playing around with settings

    I have one of these set up and it works buttery quick.
    I actually have a flash drive installed and i know probably not ideal but was laying around.

    Anyway i set another one of these up in my mothers but she is saying that when it resumes from stand by some times its not responsive for anywhere from 10 mins to 50 mins! Has to do a hard reboot.
    There is a standard laptop hard drive in it and is connected to the network via wireless dongle.

    Now she is constantly pausing live TV to come back to it later. Seems to be 80% free on the hard drive when i looked on the weekend.
    I updated the software and thought i had solved it.
    Could it be the crossEPG updating slowing it down on restart.
    I dont think it goes into deep stand by.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks

    Gar

    Check crossepg make sure it's not saving to internal flash


  • #1473
    mburke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭mburke


    Thanks for all the help, a great box and very quick.

    One issue that I have spotted is that when I look at the EPG I have no entries for:

    Ch4, Ch4+1, E4, E4+1, More4, Showcase, Bloomber TV, front runner, Film4+1, Movies4men+1, starz tv, vintage tv, heart tv, Capital tv and two or three shopping channels.

    I have entries for all other channels including Ch4 HD, More4+1, Film4.

    Any ideas on this?


    Update: Changed the region from NI to London/ITV and it populated the missing entries.


  • #1474
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    McBain11 wrote: »
    Been messing around with the box the last couple of hours. The remote has a really nice feel to it, the box responds really quickly to a channel change (far far better than the virgin tv box, something that drove me mad!). Managed to sort the recording setup somehow I think, along with the live tv pause/rewind timeshift (which looks really really good). I'm presuming that means I managed to install the 1TB HD correctly anyway, so that's 1 thing I've nailed so far - yay me!!!

    Just a couple of things to make sure I haven't fecked up the absolute basics. So I have the installed the saorview channels and the satellite channels. The satellite ones are on the 19.2 astra, is this the correct one to use (not the 28.2 astra?) Or should I be scanning for both?

    I presume I can just continue playing around with the box, set up a really basic favourites list, back it up and have that for good on the box? Then move on and try and flash over the setups from the NewClareMan/THHB and suss them out after?

    Just flash either mine or Claremans image as when you do you will overwrite everything you've done including scanning. It takes 60 seconds. The full instructions for both are there and you'll be fully setup


  • #1475
    gar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭gar


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Check crossepg make sure it's not saving to internal flash

    Even simpler

    Check the batteries.

    :D:D:D:D:D


  • #1476
    mburke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭mburke


    Folks,

    Some general queries that you may be able to assist with:

    - Is there a button to go through the epg by page rather than by single item
    - Is there a button to go back to previous viewed channel
    - Is it possible to turn off the lights on the front of the box

    Finally, when in EPG, I click yellow button and go across bouquet list, if I select saorview and view the list and then go back to fta channels it will not show the fta list just the saorview list. If I come back out of the epg and go back in again all is listed.


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  • #1477
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    mburke wrote: »
    Folks,

    Some general queries that you may be able to assist with:

    - Is there a button to go through the epg by page rather than by single item
    - Is there a button to go back to previous viewed channel
    - Is it possible to turn off the lights on the front of the box

    Finally, when in EPG, I click yellow button and go across bouquet list, if I select saorview and view the list and then go back to fta channels it will not show the fta list just the saorview list. If I come back out of the epg and go back in again all is listed.

    In main EPG try channel +/- to move by page.
    The zero button switches to previous watched channel. <> buttons under 7 or 9 shows more channel history
    MENU>SETUP>USAGE & GUI>DISPLAY>DISPLAY OPTIONS allows you set the brightness of the front display.


  • #1478
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I don't think you can dim display on this box, I just covered both with black tape and looks ace.

    One other tip, press the recall button and you get zap history ie a list of all channels viewed and you can scroll to select, very neat.


  • #1479
    wishbone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭wishbone


    hi guys, wondering if someone can help.
    I have a tiviar alpha plus with SDD, I have one connection to the satellite dish and one to saorview. I got the dish at the weekend and so far so good.

    My question is in relation to timeshift. Timeshift is configured to write to the SDD. I can get it to work no problem in that I can press pause and continue playing. My problem is if I try to skip forward and back - it can become very slow and stilted. Is it because I only have one LNB in? Will this resolve if I put a second cable to the dish?

    Also am I right in saying I must have a 2nd cable in order to watch one satellite channel and record another satellite channel?

    Are there plugins anyone would recommend as 'must haves'? I'm going to install Movie Organisor as that sounds quite good for ordering my recorded programmes. Any others?

    thanks
    Wishbone


  • #1480
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    wishbone wrote: »
    hi guys, wondering if someone can help.
    I have a tiviar alpha plus with SDD, I have one connection to the satellite dish and one to saorview. I got the dish at the weekend and so far so good.

    My question is in relation to timeshift. Timeshift is configured to write to the SDD. I can get it to work no problem in that I can press pause and continue playing. My problem is if I try to skip forward and back - it can become very slow and stilted. Is it because I only have one LNB in? Will this resolve if I put a second cable to the dish?

    Also am I right in saying I must have a 2nd cable in order to watch one satellite channel and record another satellite channel?

    Are there plugins anyone would recommend as 'must haves'? I'm going to install Movie Organisor as that sounds quite good for ordering my recorded programmes. Any others?

    thanks
    Wishbone

    With a single satellite feed you will need to disable the second satellite tuner. You would be best to run the second cable to allow you to record


  • #1481
    wishbone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭wishbone


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    With a single satellite feed you will need to disable the second satellite tuner. You would be best to run the second cable to allow you to record

    thanks High Horse Brigade. Sorry yes I did disable the second tuner until I eventually run the cable.
    Would this affect the timeshift fastforward function?


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  • #1482
    limktime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭limktime


    I just ordered one these STBs. Any recommendations on a HDD for it? Thanks


  • #1483
    mburke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭mburke


    A query related to AutoBouquets Maker:

    When I look at the epg I get the list of all the channels (eg: bbc 1 hd, bbc2 hd etc) but for Channel 4, film 4 I get them in standard def and not in HD.

    If I look via OpenWebif I see Ch4 HD and add it to the bouquet but it goes to the end of the list, not straight forward to put it in the location that suits.

    In OpenWebif I see FTA channels listed twice, once with satellite channels, one with saorview - is this correct?

    Is there an easy way to order / configure bouquets.


  • #1484
    Trevord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Trevord


    mburke wrote: »
    A query related to AutoBouquets Maker:

    When I look at the epg I get the list of all the channels (eg: bbc 1 hd, bbc2 hd etc) but for Channel 4, film 4 I get them in standard def and not in HD.

    If I look via OpenWebif I see Ch4 HD and add it to the bouquet but it goes to the end of the list, not straight forward to put it in the location that suits.

    In OpenWebif I see FTA channels listed twice, once with satellite channels, one with saorview - is this correct?

    Is there an easy way to order / configure bouquets.

    In WEBIF you can do as you have been doing up to now (add the channel to the bottom) and then move it up to where you want it to be by dragging it to where you would like it to be in the bouquet list.

    Alternatively, if you highlight the SD channel in the bouquet (click the SD channel in the bouquet - I think it turns green) then select the HD channel you want to add from the full list of 28.2e channels. Then click add channel and it will appear at the correct point in the bouquet (beside the SD channel you want to swap out). You can then delete the SD version from the bouquet list.

    I'm not sure about your second question. It sounds like you have the Saorview channels appearing in more than one bouquet list - which is fine if that is what you want.

    Personally I don't like multiple TV bouquets. Instead I use just one TV bouquet with saorview from 1-10 and BBC beginning at 101 and everything else broadly following the freesat numbering (news 200s, Movies 300s etc) and with non freesat FTA channels added in logical places.


  • #1485
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    mburke wrote: »
    A query related to AutoBouquets Maker:

    When I look at the epg I get the list of all the channels (eg: bbc 1 hd, bbc2 hd etc) but for Channel 4, film 4 I get them in standard def and not in HD.

    If I look via OpenWebif I see Ch4 HD and add it to the bouquet but it goes to the end of the list, not straight forward to put it in the location that suits.

    In OpenWebif I see FTA channels listed twice, once with satellite channels, one with saorview - is this correct?

    Is there an easy way to order / configure bouquets.

    You do realise any changes you make to any bouquets other than favourites will get overwritten the next time ABM scans. You'll need to disable automatic scan in ABM.

    There's also a pc software called dreamboxedit which is very good for sorting bouquets. You use the IP of the box and port in dreamboxedit. Do a full satellite scan on the box with clear before scan enabled before you use it so you'll have all channel frequencies up to date


  • #1486
    Trevord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Trevord


    Many thanks to NCM and THHB for some great work.

    I am coming from a Humax Freesat perspective and found the Sky skin to be one of the options that looked straight forward to follow on the Tiviar (the box will be for my parents so I want the GUI to look fairly straight forward).

    I have a couple of questions which someone hopefully can answer.

    1. Is the Tiviar recording live tv in the background by default (like a Humax would) or are there enigma settings that I have to enable for that?

    2. I manually created a saorview/freesat type bouquet in OpenWebif. I've never been able to fully understand the purpose/capability of autobouquets. I am wondering if its going to overwrite the bouquet I've made at some point?


  • #1487
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    1, yes it's called timeshift and is fully configurable

    2, make a favourites bouquet it does not get overwritten by either Autobouquets or Autobouquetmaker, but it will not update changes. In this regard Claremans image is pretty much done for you and updates.


  • #1488
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Sorry if this has been asked already...

    Does the tiviar remote allow you to control the tv volume without having to switch modes between stb and tv?

    Has it a button to control hdmi source?

    What else is needed with the box?
    I have an external hard drive. Is that any good?
    Do I need a usb stick and a wifi dongle?

    Thanks


  • #1489
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked already...

    Does the tiviar remote allow you to control the tv volume without having to switch modes between stb and tv?

    Has it a button to control hdmi source?

    What else is needed with the box?
    I have an external hard drive. Is that any good?
    Do I need a usb stick and a wifi dongle?

    Thanks

    I've honestly never used the remote after then initial use the very first day. I have a Harmony remote.

    The Tiviar does HDMI CEC, which allows the box control the TV over HDMI. I actually have it disabled because it interferes with the Harmony, commands can get sent twice.

    It's better to use a usb key, any size, it's only for picons. You only need a WiFi dongle if you have no Ethernet near the box, you are probably better with a cheap set of homeplugs tbh.


  • #1490
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I think I will get the tiviar.
    I have an ethernet cable from a homeplug already.

    To change volume on the tv do you have to switch modes on the tiviar to tv mode. I find that a pain on the humax remote.


  • #1491
    Trevord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Trevord


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I think I will get the tiviar.
    I have an ethernet cable from a homeplug already.

    To change volume on the tv do you have to switch modes on the tiviar to tv mode. I find that a pain on the humax remote.

    You shouldn't have to use the tv remote volume at all while watching tv. The Tiviar will do saorview and fta sat so you won't be switching sources and needing to swap remotes.

    the tiviar remote will control the saorview and fta sat channel volumes because all those channels will be on the tiviar box.


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  • #1492
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    So you mean just leave the remote in stb mode and use the box's volume instead of the tv.

    Ya that might be ok.

    Is this box generally about €160?


  • #1493
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    So you mean just leave the remote in stb mode and use the box's volume instead of the tv.

    Ya that might be ok.

    Is this box generally about €160?

    £100 sterling was the price on WOS without the drive and postage


  • #1494
    Trevord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Trevord


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    So you mean just leave the remote in stb mode and use the box's volume instead of the tv.

    Ya that might be ok.

    Is this box generally about €160?

    Yes you'd only really need the tv remote for switching to netflix (if you have smart tv) or for switching hdmi sources say if you had a dvd player on another hdmi port.

    Yes its about €160 including the 1TB drive and delivery via DPD


  • #1495
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I think I will get the tiviar.
    I have an ethernet cable from a homeplug already.

    To change volume on the tv do you have to switch modes on the tiviar to tv mode. I find that a pain on the humax remote.

    You can match the remote to the tv, see here

    My last build updates the satellite channels automatically. It should also update any Saorview changes, once the correct (local) terrestrial channels are entered into AutoBouquetMaker.


  • #1496
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Do you need an internal hard drive or is an external ok?


  • #1497
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Do you need an internal hard drive or is an external ok?

    You need internal, I thought the €160 one you mentioned comes with a 1TB internal?


  • #1498
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Trevord wrote: »

    2. I manually created a saorview/freesat type bouquet in OpenWebif. I've never been able to fully understand the purpose/capability of autobouquets. I am wondering if its going to overwrite the bouquet I've made at some point?

    ABM allows you to create bouquets that are automatically updated as frequencies change, channels change, etc. see here for examples. It allowed me to mimic the the Sky categories, with the Irish stations added, as appropriate.


  • #1499
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You need internal, I thought the €160 one you mentioned comes with a 1TB internal?

    It mentions that either can be chosen but where do you choose it?


  • #1500
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    It mentions that either can be chosen but where do you choose it?

    Have you a link?


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  • #1501
    macthaidhg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭macthaidhg


    Thanks to this thread I've been able to set up two of these boxes for family members who have happiliy ditched sky. I'm conscious that WoS is out of stock and it's looking like it could become more of a struggle to get hold these boxes going forward. Is anybody looking ahead to something with a similar spec (i.e. triple tuner, 2x DVB-S2X + 1 x DVB-C/T2)? I had a look at the WoS page and the Zgemma H7S Triple Tuner Combo 2x DVB-S2X + 1x DVB-C/T2 Linux Enigma2 got my attention. I'm reluctant to move away from the Tiviar but if everthing is essentially the same, other than having to configure images, does this look like a good candidate for similar price? Anybody have any experience with this model?


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