Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Paddy Cow · 27-01-2019 11:27PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

If you read my post properly , it is the recommendations of the inquest jury .And as the jury are reasonable people , I agee with them. Most publicly owned buildings have someone trained in firesafety who is living on site , and buildings where there isn't a brick wall between them are required to have fire stops installed , eg attics in terraced or semi d houses.
It's law since 2014, and strictly enforced since Priory Hall.
Of course everyone bears personal responsibility , AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE , but that does not absolve the council from their responsibility either.

What you have never explained on this thread is HOW the council could've prevented this tragedy. The travellers put in the extra caravan. That's not on the council. The adult travellers were all found to be drunk. That is not on the council. A Traveller left a chip pan on the heat, that is not the fault of the council.

If this was a case of faulty wiring causing the accident, then I'd agree that the council are to blame. In this incidence, unfortunately it was adults with too much to drink making silly decisions which lead to loss of life.

Please tell us all how fire regulations would have helped adults who were passed out with drink?????

If this happened in a council house with settled people it would still be a tragedy but it wouldn't be the fault of the council.

ShaneC93 · 27-01-2019 11:41PM

Traveller TV featuring Margaret - a new way to experience travellers moaning about the goverment 24/7

Gimme A Pound · 28-01-2019 07:55AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

*awaits onslaught from posters telling me what an awful person I am* :pac:

There's only been a handful of such posters, but by god do they get a perverse pleasure out of being obtuse.

Mad_maxx · 28-01-2019 09:29AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

What you have never explained on this thread is HOW the council could've prevented this tragedy. The travellers put in the extra caravan. That's not on the council. The adult travellers were all found to be drunk. That is not on the council. A Traveller left a chip pan on the heat, that is not the fault of the council.

If this was a case of faulty wiring causing the accident, then I'd agree that the council are to blame. In this incidence, unfortunately it was adults with too much to drink making silly decisions which lead to loss of life.

Please tell us all how fire regulations would have helped adults who were passed out with drink?????

If this happened in a council house with settled people it would still be a tragedy but it wouldn't be the fault of the council.

The state will cough up large here, kitty Holland will write a pity piece twice per week in the Irish Times and aine lawlor will have pavee point on to demand adequate compensation for the relatives of the deceased

Gravelly · 28-01-2019 09:40AM

tuxy wrote: »

Lets play a game, how many times does she say the word handicapped or deformed?

She's a keeper.

ohnonotgmail · 28-01-2019 10:03AM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Traveller TV featuring Margaret - a new way to experience travellers moaning about the goverment 24/7

That will be a fair and balanced discussion

28-01-2019 10:33AM

“School run den off 2 the council fingers crossed all goes well &#55358;&#56606;”

Hoping to get rewarded for her actions today.

sexmag · 28-01-2019 10:42AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

“School run den off 2 the council fingers crossed all goes well ��”

Hoping to get rewarded for her actions today.

For what exactly? A bigger house, she just got one? Is she expecting to get a 4/5 bed in tallaght? People who have 300k can't even get one.

And she bitches and moans about the council and now expects them to help her even more.

Id put her file on the admin desk and leave it at the bottom of the pile

"Sorry love,computer says noooooo!"

KrustyUCC · 28-01-2019 10:42AM

It would be nice if she's disappointed but the Council wouldn't want the publicity

Single homeless mother of seven, promised a house but turned down

It's awful Joe!!!

Some of her supporters comments are infuriating

"Best of luck hun u deserve it xxx"

Deserve it grrrr

KrustyUCC · 28-01-2019 10:43AM

sexmag wrote: »

For what exactly? A bigger house, she just got one? Is she expecting to get a 4/5 bed in tallaght? People who have 300k can't even get one.

And she bitches and moans about the council and now expects them to help her even more.

Id put her file on the admin desk and leave it at the bottom of the pile

"Sorry love,computer says noooooo!"

That's the one she was in the papers for at the end of last week

3 bedroom in Tallaght

It wasnt me123 · 28-01-2019 11:08AM

Gravelly wrote: »

She's a keeper.

In a Zoo?

Gravelly · 28-01-2019 11:13AM

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

In a Zoo?

She should be in a zoo.

Roger Hassenforder · 28-01-2019 12:22PM

Gravelly wrote: »

She should be in a zoo.

Would not pay.
Bad enough paying to see lions and polar bears sitting around in their holes all day, doing fcuk all.

tretorn · 28-01-2019 01:12PM

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Try this as a possible scenario.

CC rep arrives on site.
Ok, we need someone here to be the fire safety person and we'll train them to do that.
Fcuk off an leave de traveller alone ya racist cnut!
No seriously, someone here has to be the fire safety guy.
Get off the fcukin site or I'll take a hook to ya. We own this site now so fcuk off.
But it's the law.
We don't do the law. MAGGIE GET THE LADS OUT!
Alright, I'm going, I'm going.

Yeah, that was before they morphed into a criminal organisation.

No, the actual scenario is fire officer arrives in halting site without his entire body protection suit on.

Savage dog who is mistreated by travellers emerges from under a caravan and rips fire officers stomach open. Traveller men are sitting drinking nearby and they dont call dog off until poor fireman is half dead.

Rinse and repeat.

ShaneC93 · 28-01-2019 02:01PM

Wonder has Margaret gotten some bad news because after returning from the council she seems to have gone on a Facebook spree - like 20 shared posts in the space of 45 minutes. Not exactly the behaviour of someone celebrating being awarded a house.

Roger Hassenforder · 28-01-2019 02:06PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

l she seems to have gone on a Facebook spree - like 20 shared posts in the space of 45 minutes.

Gotta love those Republican Ivory Coast flags though...

28-01-2019 02:38PM

washman3 wrote: »

The 2 of these should be arrested tomorrow morning and fcuked into prison with dry bread and water.
The authorities need to stamp out this 'calling out' ****e for once and for all.
That little bollix brandishing the slash-hook should be made do something useful with it, like cutting back the overgrown hedgerows along our country roads and receive 5 kicks in the hole every hour along the way.
And cut his dole and 'entitlements' for 6 months.

If you brandish a slash hook like that, you're a fcuking knacker. And that's nothing to do with being a traveller. It means you're an absolute violent scumbag and nothing more.

BattleCorp · 28-01-2019 02:59PM

tuxy wrote: »

Lets play a game, how many times does she say the word handicapped or deformed?

I always thought there were laws that made it an offence to threaten people, especially with weapons such as slash hooks.

I must be mistaken.

Dtp1979 · 28-01-2019 03:09PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I always thought there were laws that made it an offence to threaten people, especially with weapons such as slash hooks.

I must be mistaken.

The law doesn’t apply to everyone. Did you not know that?

James Brown · 28-01-2019 03:59PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Would not pay.
Bad enough paying to see lions and polar bears sitting around in their holes all day, doing fcuk all.

Scroungers. Not a job among them.

gerrybbadd · 28-01-2019 04:15PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I always thought there were laws that made it an offence to threaten people, especially with weapons such as slash hooks.

I must be mistaken.

Something something culture...

Gravelly · 28-01-2019 04:17PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I always thought there were laws that made it an offence to threaten people, especially with weapons such as slash hooks.

I must be mistaken.

An unfortunate fact in Ireland is that laws seem to apply far more to the law-abiding than they do to those who routinely ignore the law.

mynamejeff · 28-01-2019 04:48PM

tuxy wrote: »

Lets play a game, how many times does she say the word handicapped or deformed?

equality my hole

your trying to tell me that these creatures are the same as me ?

they are in reality a less developed form of life and should be treated as such ,

provided minimal supports until they develop in line with the rest of us of or breed them selfs out of existence

Darwinism ffs

mikhail · 28-01-2019 05:14PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

equality my hole

your trying to tell me that these creatures are the same as me ?

they are in reality a less developed form of life and should be treated as such ,

provided minimal supports until they develop in line with the rest of us of or breed them selfs out of existence

Darwinism ffs

I'm no fan of the travellers, but this is going too far, and puts me in mind of old punch cartoons.
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The British weren't just making **** up. Poor, uneducated groups tend to have these problems. The travellers would be grand if only their kids saw out their education. Spewing bile about them being subhuman is pig-ignorant.

Gravelly · 28-01-2019 05:16PM

mikhail wrote: »

The British weren't just making **** up. Poor, uneducated groups tend to have these problems. The travellers would be grand if only their kids saw out their education. Spewing bile about them being subhuman is pig-ignorant.

Why is it, do you think, that their children don't see out their education?

mikhail · 28-01-2019 05:23PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Why is it, do you think, that their children don't see out their education?

The short versions is because their parents don't value it, which is enabled and exacerbated by a failing national policy because it's a politically unpalatable topic.

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that calling them "in reality a less developed form of life" is exactly the sort of repulsive racism that was directed at this nation. It's fuel for the kinds of folks who think pointing out secondary school completion rates or incarceration rates for travellers amounts to racism. The debate has to be better than that, or it will continue to be impossible outside of some ranty little thread in a corner of the internet.

BattleCorp · 28-01-2019 05:23PM

mikhail wrote: »

The British weren't just making **** up. Poor, uneducated groups tend to have these problems. The travellers would be grand if only their kids saw out their education. Spewing bile about them being subhuman is pig-ignorant.

The ones I know are educated, to a very high level. But not educated in the way we are educated. Not book smarts. They are educated how to scam the system, how to fiddle, how to steal etc.

And you'd be fairly naïve to think that most of them are poor. Yes, there are poor travellers. But many of them would buy and sell us.

Gravelly · 28-01-2019 05:27PM

mikhail wrote: »

The short versions is because their parents don't value it, which is enabled and exacerbated by a failing national policy because it's a politically unpalatable topic.

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that calling them "in reality a less developed form of life" is exactly the sort of repulsive racism that was directed at this nation. It's fuel for the kinds of folks who think pointing out secondary school completion rates or incarceration rates for travellers amounts to racism. The debate has to be better than that, or it will continue to be impossible outside of some ranty little thread in a corner of the internet.

Unfortunately, as Casey found out, there is no debate - it's either shut your mouth or be called a racist. There's no space in Irish media or politics for a debate, therefore people will lash out in frustration on the forums they can.

BattleCorp · 28-01-2019 05:27PM

mikhail wrote: »

The short versions is because their parents don't value it, which is enabled and exacerbated by a failing national policy because it's a politically unpalatable topic.

They don't value it because there's more money to be had the other way. As the saying goes 'a crooked pound is as good as an honest pound'. And that was said to me by a traveller.

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that calling them "in reality a less developed form of life" is exactly the sort of repulsive racism that was directed at this nation. It's fuel for the kinds of folks who think pointing out secondary school completion rates or incarceration rates for travellers amounts to racism. The debate has to be better than that, or it will continue to be impossible outside of some ranty little thread in a corner of the internet.

Look, all the discussion in the world isn't going to make a blind bit of difference. Travellers won't engage and tow the line when it comes to responsibility etc. They won't change unless they have to change. And that's not going to happen because we are bending our laws to suit them. Or at least not enforcing them. Here is one example - So what if it's their culture to keep horses, so we have to get them accommodation with stables etc?

Could I say the same if I was from gentry and fell on hard times? Us gentry always had horses, I need stables with my council house? Get ta feck.

28-01-2019 05:27PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Why is it, do you think, that their children don't see out their education?

Cos they’re never in one place long enough?

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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