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Job Background Check information

  • 24-01-2019 01:15PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21


    Hi guys, I'm in a bit of a dilemma at the moment and I'd appreciate very much any advice. I passed the round of interviews for a job and now I have to get a background check. One of the questions is:

    "Have you ever appeared in court or court martial before?"

    In 2011 I was summoned to court for driving with bald tires on my car and had to pay a €200 fine. So strictly speaking the answer is yes. However im not sure whether or not to include it. Is it a spent sentence after 7 years and does not need to be disclosed? Can the background check company (pre-screen) get any information on court records/appearances etc?

    Any advice her would be major appreciate. Thanks guys!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Tick no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Jim tully


    Hi, thanks for the reply. Do you have any reasons for that suggestion? Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    That looks like you're applying for a job working for a US company. If it's not working with children or vulnerable adults or for a central bank CF or PCF function. I'd tick no. Unlikely they'll ever be able to find out. Up to you though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Jim tully


    Do these background checks have access to criminal records or court appearances? That's the question I'm after here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,693 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Nothing good can come from of naming the company. I suggest that you edit it out.

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Jim tully


    Esel wrote: »
    Nothing good can come from of naming the company. I suggest that you edit it out.

    Excellent advice Esel. Should not have overlooked that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Jim tully wrote: »
    Do these background checks have access to criminal records or court appearances? That's the question I'm after here.

    No. Unless it is a job like i described above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭GavMan


    Looks like stock background check that a US company would do.

    Unlike the states, there is very little information like this publicly available here in Ireland and it is unlikely they are going down the route of Garda vetting. I'm not going to advise you to lie (I wouldn't) but in reality, the chances of them finding anything like this is very remote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    One time I walked by the CCJ on my way to the zoo, should I tick yes ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    You're not required to disclose spent convictions. The first answer you got was the right one IMHO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Jim tully wrote: »
    Do these background checks have access to criminal records or court appearances? That's the question I'm after here.

    No. I assume this is a cursory background check run by someone like Experian. They're more looking for a history of bad debt that anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,629 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I would tic no amd if for any reason it becomes an issue I’d be saying it was motoring offence rather than criminal so you didn’t think they’d be interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,262 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    _Brian wrote: »
    I would tic no amd if for any reason it becomes an issue I’d be saying it was motoring offence rather than criminal so you didn’t think they’d be interested.


    while the OP should tick No on the form the reason is not because the offences are motoring offences rather than criminal. Motoring offences are criminal offences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    while the OP should tick No on the form the reason is not because the offences are motoring offences rather than criminal. Motoring offences are criminal offences.


    I think you've missed the nuance of what was being suggested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,262 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I think you've missed the nuance of what was being suggested.

    you seem to have mistaken a pretty common misunderstanding for nuance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    you seem to have mistaken a pretty common misunderstanding for nuance.


    What he was suggesting is (IMHO), if he got caught out he could use that common misunderstanding as an excuse, but tbh I think you knew that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Jim tully


    Following from this... I was asked to send information to the recruiter for the background check. CV, filled out screening document with employment history and educational record, references etc. In the email the recruiter told me to include my pps number. Was the ppsn for the background check or the recruiter for revenue purposes? I find it unsettling that they asked for the ppsn when I'm not an employee.

    Directly from data protection website....


    3.4 When applying for a new job, can a prospective employer seek the PPSN of candidates as part of the application process?

    An employer should only seek your PPSN if you are successful at the recruitment process and are actually taking up employment with the organisation. An employer requires the PPSN of each employee for Revenue purposes. There is no basis for a prospective employer to capture a candidate's PPSN at the application stage.

    3.5 How long can an organisation retain employee data?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭usernamegoes


    Jim tully wrote: »
    Following from this... I was asked to send information to the recruiter for the background check. CV, filled out screening document with employment history and educational record, references etc. In the email the recruiter told me to include my pps number. Was the ppsn for the background check or the recruiter for revenue purposes? I find it unsettling that they asked for the ppsn when I'm not an employee.

    Directly from data protection website....


    3.4 When applying for a new job, can a prospective employer seek the PPSN of candidates as part of the application process?

    An employer should only seek your PPSN if you are successful at the recruitment process and are actually taking up employment with the organisation. An employer requires the PPSN of each employee for Revenue purposes. There is no basis for a prospective employer to capture a candidate's PPSN at the application stage.

    3.5 How long can an organisation retain employee data?

    Based on the questions they asked you I'd be confident that this is not a job where they have the ability to do vetting on the Garda Database.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Jim tully


    Based on the questions they asked you I'd be confident that this is not a job where they have the ability to do vetting on the Garda Database.

    My thoughts too. I'm just concerned that I would be asked for my ppsn at this stage when I haven't been offered a contract. What type of info can a potential employer get from one's pps number? Work history? Welfare records?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Jim tully wrote: »
    My thoughts too. I'm just concerned that I would be asked for my ppsn at this stage when I haven't been offered a contract. What type of info can a potential employer get from one's pps number? Work history? Welfare records?


    None of the above. Stop over thinking it :)


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