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Is anybody mourning the loss of Manly /Womanly arts?

  • 28-12-2018 03:25PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    I was in the Wicklow gap hunting for game last weekend. I had built my rabbit trap and was spraying it with apple cider as bait. A group of teenagers emerged and asked what l was doing. I explained to them what I was doing, and they looked at me as if I had two heads!?

    I was in lidl in the summer and someone was buying garden fencing. He was trying to put it in the boot. He put a dingy cord around it. I said that could be hazardous if your not lucky, do you have any rope to put a truckers hitch on it? He gave me the same look that Hillary Clinton gave Bill Clinton at the presidential inauguration, when he was admiring Ivanka trump. I had some spare rope and showed him how to fasten it down safely. He was more than appreciative ,and couldn't believe that no one had ever taught him this before


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    They're giving you funny looks because you display the skills of an accomplished serial killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Another time a group of us were driving to electric picnic and witnessed a distressed couple at the side of the road, they had a flat tyre. I asked them did they need a hand.I always leave 2 hours early in case of emergencies like this. They didn't have a wrench, but said it was okay as they rang the AA. I said you'll be waiting at least 3 hours, you don't want to miss the concert. I offered to change the Tyre for them, and they were on the road again in 20 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,105 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I don't think I'd include baiting/hunting etc, but this lack of practical skills in the younger generation is a noted issue.

    I heard a radio piece about it a year ago or so, a school has set up in Seattle to teach practical domestic skills to college kids from wealthier backgrounds, whose entire focus till now has been on studies and social life and haven't a clue how to cook, mend, tend a home and garden, clean a place hygienically, prepare for a spell outdoors etc etc. The school charges a bloody fortune too.

    Its a function of the last 100 years, our great-grandparents could stretch every penny, wasted nothing, mended everything. Our grandparents could do most of that but were better educated and had more ambitious jobs. Our parents grew up in a convenience age, where services were a huge business, but still largely retained the learned skills they saw in their parents. But when it comes to us and even moreso our kids, in the western world, we'd be useless if a major disaster befell us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Forget your hunting and wilderness training... young people have never used a mop to clean a floor....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    I was in the Wicklow gap hunting for game last weekend. I had built my rabbit trap and was spraying it with apple cider as bait. A group of teenagers emerged and asked what l was doing.

    That's why you attracted teenagers instead of rabbits. For rabbits you need to use lettuce, not cider.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Neighbors called to me Christmas morning asking me to build there daughters doll house I kid you not.
    Both a very well Educated extremely good jobs.
    I am amazed that they can tie a shoe lace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    I was staying over in a house on Stephen's day. The house had run out of coffee filters, and were annoyed that they could not have their morning coffee. I asked them did they have any kitchen towels to use as a coffee filter instead? They had loads spare, coffee tasted just as good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I was surprised recently when a friend told me she had some baking to do while I was visiting. She got a packet of scone mix, added milk and put it in the oven. I asked would she ever mix ingredients herself and she said she wouldn't have a clue how to.

    Same lady uses a window cleaner because she or her husband don't know how to do it right (her words).


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was surprised recently when a friend told me she had some baking to do while I was visiting. She got a packet of scone mix, added milk and put it in the oven. I asked would she ever mix ingredients herself and she said she wouldn't have a clue how to.

    Same lady uses a window cleaner because she or her husband don't know how to do it right (her words).

    Your username serves a function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Neighbors called to me Christmas morning asking me to build there daughters doll house I kid you not.
    Both a very well Educated extremely good jobs.
    I am amazed that they can tie a shoe lace

    Actually, this reminded me. I helped a friend assemble flat pack furniture to save him hiring someone to do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I use a window cleaner. I'm not incapable
    But

    I have arachnaphobia, actually full blown, not just don't like spiders will vomit with panic if I get too close to a spider so can't do the downstairs outside

    And

    I have dyspraxia so can't do the upstairs outside cos I'd get stuck up the ladder and also, spiders

    Window cleaner does the kitchen window inside above the sink cos I can't get up to that, or, more accurately, I cant get down again . Last time I did that one myself I ended up stuck on top of the kitchen units for 2 hours until someone got home and helped me down. Once he'd picked himself up off the floor where he'd been rolling around laughing at me for 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I was in the Wicklow gap hunting for game last weekend. I had built my rabbit trap and was spraying it with apple cider as bait. A group of teenagers emerged and asked what l was doing. I explained to them what I was doing, and they looked at me as if I had two heads!?

    I was in lidl in the summer and someone was buying garden fencing. He was trying to put it in the boot. He put a dingy cord around it. I said that could be hazardous if your not lucky, do you have any rope to put a truckers hitch on it? He gave me the same look that Hillary Clinton gave Bill Clinton at the presidential inauguration, when he was admiring Ivanka trump. I had some spare rope and showed him how to fasten it down safely. He was more than appreciative ,and couldn't believe that no one had ever taught him this before


    Should've got some cheap nasty Chicken, tastes the same as Rabbit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Neighbors called to me Christmas morning asking me to build there daughters doll house I kid you not.
    Both a very well Educated extremely good jobs.
    I am amazed that they can tie a shoe lace

    Actually, this reminded me. I helped a friend assemble flat pack furniture to save him hiring someone to do it.
    That's bad! Even I can assemble flat pack ! Takes me a bit longer than most but I can get it done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    OP sounds like an Irish version of McGuyver, or if one wishes to be less flattering "a know it all'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    I was staying over in a house on Stephen's day. The house had run out of coffee filters, and were annoyed that they could not have their morning coffee. I asked them did they have any kitchen towels to use as a coffee filter instead? They had loads spare, coffee tasted just as good

    Seriously?????????

    Worst I have heard is a friend who is intelligent, wealthy and hard working who calls in an electrician to change a light bulb... now I am not talking something difficult, just a light bulb....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I saw an article recently where a surgeon was bemoaning the fact that student doctors had no dexterity skills and it was very difficult to teach them to stitch up a wound as they had no experience of using needles/tools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    OP sounds like an Irish version of McGuyver, or if one wishes to be less flattering "a know it all'.

    Not really, it's come to my attention over the years how little the younger generation know about basic life skills.

    New guy (24ish) started in my place last year, we were having an issue with a conveyor belt guard and i asked him to get me some 9mm penny washers.

    His reply was "whats a washer"?

    I grew up building bikes, go karts and all sorts of things that would land you in hospital for half the summer because that's what we did as kids, sh/t even meccanno taught us about washers lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    On the whole flat-pack thing, generally flat packs have become so very well designed that there is real satisfaction in assembling them into a really nice piece of furniture. We had a set of shelves recently from Argos that was entirely held with wooden dowels up until the last 4 locking screws. It had to be done in order and smoothly, but it was a most impressive bit of quality construction when it was done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    looksee wrote: »
    On the whole flat-pack thing, generally flat packs have become so very well designed that there is real satisfaction in assembling them into a really nice piece of furniture. We had a set of shelves recently from Argos that was entirely held with wooden dowels up until the last 4 locking screws. It had to be done in order and smoothly, but it was a most impressive bit of quality construction when it was done.
    Yeah, but it's not difficult is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    I'm actually mouthing "What?" at my monitor here reading some of these examples, like seriously ... a fully grown adult was going to hire someone to assemble flat pack furniture?

    Although in saying that, I'm 33, my partner is 25 - went to light a fire last night and she didn't have a notion of how to go about it. Was sorta amazed as it was kind of second nature to me. I just thought "It's a fire, we mastered making these things a LONG time ago, heck, we have a whole sector of employment dedicated to putting this stuff out!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Raheem Euro


    Eastern european immigrants are very adept in all the "lost manly arts".
    I wonder how much will carry down to second generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Yeah, but it's not difficult is it?

    No its not difficult, that is part of the point I am making. One time flat packs were a maze of instructions and dodgy connections. Now they are so well made that there is actual satisfaction in putting them together (and I say that as someone who has done a fair bit of woodworking/assembling/constructing things).


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 6,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Never mind not knowing how to catch (and skin/gut) your own dinner, a lot of young adults barely know how to cook a dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    I learned to iron, sow and wash clothes when I joined the FCA at 15 as my mother who was from an 'old IRA' family refused to touch my 'free-stater' uniform :D
    My dad showed me how to change fuses, wire plugs and solder wires. These were just jobs people did as routine a couple of decades ago, as normal as filling a dishwasher today! I'm only talking the 90s here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    hightower1 wrote: »

    Although in saying that, I'm 33, my partner is 25 - went to light a fire last night and she didn't have a notion of how to go about it. Was sorta amazed as it was kind of second nature to me. I just thought "It's a fire, we mastered making these things a LONG time ago, heck, we have a whole sector of employment dedicated to putting this stuff out!"

    I was going to mention the inability to set a fire. I also had to instruct a 25 yo in how to operate a front loading automatic washing machine. The same 25yo threw away a frying pan of mine she'd borrowed after she burnt some food in it. Rather than soak it and wash it she replaced it.

    I've encountered blank stares when asking people if they've checked a fuse box to isolate the source of a power outage or if they've bled their radiators that wouldn't heat up fully.

    Having said that, my mother could hand make clothes from scratch and both she and my dad could cultivate a garden to supply our spuds and veg. I can't do any of those things. Also, although not a tradesman my dad was very "handy" and could make basic wooden furniture and do repairs and was a fantastic painter and decorator. Again, not a hope from me beyond rubbing a roller of paint up and down a flat surface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,472 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    looksee wrote: »
    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Yeah, but it's not difficult is it?

    No its not difficult, that is part of the point I am making. One time flat packs were a maze of instructions and dodgy connections. Now they are so well made that there is actual satisfaction in putting them together (and I say that as someone who has done a fair bit of woodworking/assembling/constructing things).
    This is my point also. Someone posted about someone who hires people to assemble flat pack stuff. If I, who lack the capacity to understand diagrammatic information and who frequently confuses my left and right hands and forgets that I'm holding an object so it ends up being dropped and with the manual dexterity and fine motor skills of a pruned tree stump, can assemble flat pack furniture that looks lovely and is functional, then ANYONE can!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    I was in the Wicklow gap hunting for game last weekend. I had built my rabbit trap and was spraying it with apple cider as bait. A group of teenagers emerged and asked what l was doing. I explained to them what I was doing, and they looked at me as if I had two heads!?
    I remember a few years back, I was down at my parents house with my kid. We'd brought the iPad for some reason and my kid had opened up the Amazon app and was lining up a few books to buy. Parents looked at my kid as if she had two heads.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    robindch wrote: »
    I remember a few years back, I was down at my parents house with my kid. We'd brought the iPad for some reason and my kid had opened up the Amazon app and was lining up a few books to buy. Parents looked at my kid as if she had two heads.

    But why? Everyone does online shopping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Young Roger got a Google Home thing from santa. Unpacked it, installed an app on my phone, connected it to the wi-fi and synched to my Spotify in about 15 mins.
    Is now shouting at it to tell him jokes and play baby shark.

    He's 9 and thinks Santa came down the chimney with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I am always perplexed when I find out people that I know are unable to tie a formal tie. I taught myself, no videos, just trying it out over again.

    Would love to be able to do things like changing plugs and low skilled wiring. I think I'll give it a go over the next week. A new year's resolution.


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