Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

punisher5112 · 19-12-2018 02:17PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

In the media?

Nah that couldn't happen

She needs badly putting back in her box

19-12-2018 02:24PM

Has she gotten her foreva home yet?

blanch152 · 19-12-2018 02:25PM

Señor Santa Pants wrote: »

Would ya go away outta dat Matt.

You have 17 posts in this thread already! You didnt just find it now.

Matt has a revisionist view of history. Those posts weren't his, they were from the Taoiseach through his partner, also known as Matt Barrett.

KrustyUCC · 19-12-2018 02:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Has she gotten her foreva home yet?

I don't think so

You may be sure that would be plastered all over the media

Single Homeless Mother of Seven finally gets a home just in time for Christmas

punisher5112 · 19-12-2018 02:30PM

Media has gone very quiet about her though.

maninasia · 19-12-2018 02:45PM

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Serious question....

How do I become a traveller? I Read that the irish ones have no different genes or bloodline to any romany tinklers etc

so how did these people gain their status?

I wouldnt mind having some of their added rights and protection that oridnary citizens dont get.

If I turn up an pauvee and ask to be one of them, would/could they refuse me?

I have never lived in a caravan but neither have 99.9% of them now, infact they all have their own houses provided free by the state.

Only concern is that I am working and dont have a criminal record, I worry I maybe rejected on this

Marry into a clan ?

Travellers have the same genetic background as the rest of the natives but they have been existed as a nomadic group for hundreds or maybe even thousands of years. Some say their numbers may have increased during the famine when millions fled the land or died. They do have a unique culture and history whatever people may think about them now they are part of Irish heritage.

Quazzie · 19-12-2018 03:07PM

maninasia wrote: »

Marry into a clan ?

Travellers have the same genetic background as the rest of the natives but they have been existed as a nomadic group for hundreds or maybe even thousands of years. Some say their numbers may have increased during the famine when millions fled the land or died. They do have a unique culture and history whatever people may think about them now they are part of Irish heritage.

So our national food is Cabbage and Bacon, our National Drink is Guinness, and our National people are travelers. There is less and less to like about this country every day

Deebles McBeebles · 19-12-2018 03:23PM

maninasia wrote: »

They do have a unique culture and history whatever people may think about them now they are part of Irish heritage.

No doubt. The pertinent question is how they fit into modern day Ireland. Not awfully well it seems.

Ha Long Bay · 19-12-2018 03:25PM

Wonder will she get another TV appearance on RTE tonight?

9:35PM RTÉ Investigates - Travellers, Lives on the Fringes
A report examining the accommodation crisis facing travellers in Ireland, two years after they were recognised as a distinct ethnic group.

punisher5112 · 19-12-2018 04:05PM

john4321 wrote: »

Wonder will she get another TV appearance on RTE tonight?

9:35PM RTÉ Investigates - Travellers, Lives on the Fringes
A report examining the accommodation crisis facing travellers in Ireland, two years after they were recognised as a distinct ethnic group.

Probably not I would say all their wallets were cleaned out.

Deebles McBeebles · 19-12-2018 04:18PM

john4321 wrote: »

Wonder will she get another TV appearance on RTE tonight?

9:35PM RTÉ Investigates - Travellers, Lives on the Fringes
A report examining the accommodation crisis facing travellers in Ireland, two years after they were recognised as a distinct ethnic group.

No mention of her in the spiel for the show anyway. Can't see how RTE cut her out of this totally though, even with people realising what she really is.

James Brown · 19-12-2018 04:22PM

This I don't get. Travellers are homeless by definition, no? Isn't it in the name? I'm sorry, while I disagree with the awarding of ethnic status I do feel they have a culture of their own, but this seems to be blurring that and boiling it down to 'different but not different', depending.

Deebles McBeebles · 19-12-2018 04:26PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

This I don't get. Travellers are homeless by definition, no? Isn't it in the name? I'm sorry, while I disagree with the awarding of ethnic status I do feel they have a culture of their own, but this seems to be blurring that and boiling it down to 'different but not different', depending.

Refusal to adapt to modern society, with all its new fangled rules and such, has led to those who want to "travel" only being able to "settle" in proper (government built and approved) halting sites. Unfortunately they can't seem to find the money to pay for them.

Sweet.Science · 19-12-2018 04:32PM

This is slightly off topic its just from an article i read

It said there is over 10k people homeless
And over 70k on HAP
.
Both growing by the week

And then there is the private renters who get no help at all . Prob around 50k of them
.
Will these people on HAP still be on it when they are retired ?

Its going to be one big sh!tshow in around 20 years. We think the crisis is bad now

James Brown · 19-12-2018 05:14PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

This is slightly off topic its just from an article i read

It said there is over 10k people homeless
And over 70k on HAP
.
Both growing by the week

And then there is the private renters who get no help at all . Prob around 50k of them
.
Will these people on HAP still be on it when they are retired ?

Its going to be one big sh!tshow in around 20 years. We think the crisis is bad now

Instead of tackling the housing crisis we, the tax payer, are funding rental aid schemes, buyers grants and hotels for 'emergencies'. This is simply because FF/FG don't want to cut into the private profits of vulture funds and their other backers by building too many affordable or social housing units. People can't afford a roof, so instead of the market having to lower pricing to meet affordability, the tax payer is bringing up the difference. It'll all collapse soon enough.

topper75 · 19-12-2018 05:21PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Its going to be one big sh!tshow in around 20 years. We think the crisis is bad now

The last crash was a glorious opportunity to put things right fiscally. They could have blamed the IMF even, who don't have to worry about elections here.

It was completely missed.

Ireland may become another Greece in time if the multinational biggies get itchy feet. It'll make 1916 look like a little push and shove when an Irish govt has to turn around in the late 2020s and tell lifetime dolers, sick people, and pensioners that their money simply isn't there...Dublin will burn.

Ruraldweller56 · 19-12-2018 05:23PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

This I don't get. Travellers are homeless by definition, no? Isn't it in the name? I'm sorry, while I disagree with the awarding of ethnic status I do feel they have a culture of their own, but this seems to be blurring that and boiling it down to 'different but not different', depending.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Ah the I hate K****kers thread. That'll solve everything!

*eye roll*

It wasnt me123 · 19-12-2018 05:26PM

Just an aside on their ethnicity.

i thought it was in law, its not. The government have recognised travellers as a different ethnic group (to the rest of us) but its not in law. In law they are just Irish. Can you then be racist if you say all travellers are criminals as legally they don't have a different race to us.

vonlars · 19-12-2018 05:52PM

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Just an aside on their ethnicity.

i thought it was in law, its not. The government have recognised travellers as a different ethnic group (to the rest of us) but its not in law. In law they are just Irish. Can you then be racist if you say all travellers are criminals as legally they don't have a different race to us.

They are specifically mentioned under the Equal Status Act. So it can be seen as discrimination/hate speech. There's no 'Ant-Racism' Act as such, it's all covered under the Equal Status Act and Incitement to Hatred Act.

James Brown · 19-12-2018 06:31PM

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

*eye roll*

So my calling out hatred and my comment on the RTE homelessness report...something something? Do tell Mr. Eyeroll.

Ruraldweller56 · 19-12-2018 06:42PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

So my calling out hatred and my comment on the RTE homelessness report...something something? Do tell Mr. Eyeroll.

Just seems strange that you'd be still bothering to post in an 'I hate kna*kers thread'. The one that you just discovered earlier on today.

Calling out hatred. Classic :pac: :pac: :pac:

goose2005 · 19-12-2018 06:43PM

maninasia wrote: »

Marry into a clan ?

Travellers have the same genetic background as the rest of the natives but they have been existed as a nomadic group for hundreds or maybe even thousands of years. Some say their numbers may have increased during the famine when millions fled the land or died. They do have a unique culture and history whatever people may think about them now they are part of Irish heritage.

there's little evidence for their separateness before the Famine. Most of our ancestors were itinerant or semi-itinerant at one time or another, due to migrant labour, evictions or shortage of land

punisher5112 · 19-12-2018 07:04PM

Does cash know of this thread ....

I would love to hear her thoughts and see her replies to all the posts.......

I would really enjoy the laugh....

retalivity · 19-12-2018 07:18PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Does cash know of this thread ....

I would love to hear her thoughts and see her replies to all the posts.......

I would really enjoy the laugh....

There's too much punctuation and correct spelling here, she'd not get far.

Grab All Association · 19-12-2018 07:38PM

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Benefit caps are needed for child benefit payments limited to 2 x children in a persons lifetime and a shift to building single- 2 bed social housing only. It’ll stop the constant breeding of children like cattle/assets. Maximum of 4 years lone parent and after that Jobseeker’s Allowance. Child benefit linked to school attendance after the age of 4 and paid by the department of education instead. Deductions for school materials and supplies spread throughout the year.

gnf_ireland · 19-12-2018 07:48PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Benefit caps are needed for child benefit payments limited to 2 x children in a persons lifetime. Child benefit linked to school attendance after the age of 4 and paid by the department of education instead. Deductions for school materials and supplies spread throughout the year.

Personally I would go much further. I would cut child benefit in half, and have the other 70 euro per month (840 per child per year) go direct into the education system (not on salaries). This additional money would mean that we have proper free education for all children in the public system and the schools would not be permitted to request money from parents for anything - including books, copies, laptops, uniforms (each child should be allocated two uniforms at the start of the academic year) etc. Also would mean no voluntary contribution and no fund raising also.

It would be the classic - would you pay more tax for better services discussion - and the people who benefit are the people who are paying for it.

In addition, I would cap it at 2 children - pushing it to 3, and 100% agree with linking it to school attendance. Miss more than 10 days school in a year, the benefit is frozen subject to a review...

James Brown · 19-12-2018 07:56PM

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

Just seems strange that you'd be still bothering to post in an 'I hate kna*kers thread'. The one that you just discovered earlier on today.

Calling out hatred. Classic :pac: :pac: :pac:

Aw man, you really sh*t the bed on that one. Do you even know what your point is at this stage?
If you misunderstood one of my comments, own it. We've all done it. You're embarrassing yourself.

James Brown · 19-12-2018 08:00PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Benefit caps are needed for child benefit payments limited to 2 x children in a persons lifetime and a shift to building single- 2 bed social housing only. It’ll stop the constant breeding of children like cattle/assets. Maximum of 4 years lone parent and after that Jobseeker’s Allowance. Child benefit linked to school attendance after the age of 4 and paid by the department of education instead. Deductions for school materials and supplies spread throughout the year.

Agreed on the children's allowance side.
I've have zero tolerance on fraud with job seekers and police it. Then we'd not need a cap on time spent and wouldn't have to hear the spongers crapola every time the squeezed middle FG voter needs a scapegoat to justify being a FG voter.

Carlingford Locked · 19-12-2018 08:03PM

Capping children's allowance wouldn't stop people like Cash having kids. She's not the brightest spark. Also would just mean judges are even more lenient when they're caught shoplifting etc as they'll use the lack of money as an excuse.
Forcing trav women to stay in school might help, and maybe paying for them to go to college. But then I don't think the men would be too happy with them getting experience in the real world, so that wont work either.

Ruraldweller56 · 19-12-2018 09:18PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Aw man, you really sh*t the bed on that one. Do you even know what your point is at this stage?
If you misunderstood one of my comments, own it. We've all done it. You're embarrassing yourself.

No I understand it just fine you're a crusader of the oppressed and calling us all out on our depraved bigotry.

When you say embarrassing do you kind of mean like pretending you suddenly discovered a thread to go off on a crusade on, but have actually been posting on the whole time?

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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