Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

IamtheWalrus · 18-12-2018 01:10PM

My successful 5-a-side team has no manager. Just saying.

BenK · 18-12-2018 01:11PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

My successful 5-a-side team has no manager. Just saying.

What style of football do they play though?

IamtheWalrus · 18-12-2018 01:12PM

BenK wrote: »

What style of football do they play though?

We call it the big-toe. Don’t know the technical term.

Mean Laqueefa · 18-12-2018 01:12PM

BenK wrote: »

What style of football do they play though?

4 GK's and the big lad upfront

PhlegmyMoses · 18-12-2018 01:12PM

Southgate is not a credible option. Would be disgusted with that.

Harry Palmr · 18-12-2018 01:14PM

Southgate wouldn't take it. Why would he? - unsackable at England right now, a side with loads of youthful promise and even the English FA is more competent than Woodward and company.

PhlegmyMoses · 18-12-2018 01:15PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Monday Night Club on 5live had a very depressing discussion about this yesterday - Rory Smith (New York Times PL correspondent) I think it was noted that such is the level of social media activity surrounding the club a loss is actually a win in terms of clicks and hits because good news is not a story and defeat like that v Liverpool is a real win for interest in the club be it from supporters or otherwise. It was pointed out that sooner or later the clicks are no substitute for winning stuff as the next generation of (potential) fans will disengage or simply not be interested to start with, but it was also noted that such is the income from TV esp that not winning stuff doesn't matter that much now either (and by implication even full stadiums are a luxury income add on). The whole environment around the game is pretty bad in this regard now. Pogba is merely the most obvious symptom of this new age.

If fans didnt disengage from Liverpool after decades of mismanagement, chronic football and nearly going to the wall financially, I am not sure why Liverpool fan Rory Smith might be saying that about Manchester United.

18-12-2018 01:16PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Of course there are other problems, but you start the healing process by cutting out the cancerous tumor first. The idea that you would discuss Utd's present difficulties without a huge element of focus on the consistent mismanagement and outrageous media handling of Mourinho is laughable in the extreme!

The play under LVG and Moyes was as bad if not worse. Why people think the manager is at the root of the current situation I'll never know...

Your Airbag · 18-12-2018 01:17PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

You think that it is laughable (in the extreme!) to want to discuss the fact that one man has overseen 3 failed managerial appointment and a slew of mediocre signings on big money that have not looked arsed? I guess we have different ideas of laughable opinions.

The buggest mistake any United fan will make right now is to buy i to the media narrative that getting rid of Mourinho solves the problem. It didnt solve it when we sacked Moyes and it didnt solve it when we sacked LVG. Woodward needs to go, more so than anybody else at the club

Let me state this clearly now because I'm sure a few will attribute this idea to me in the future which I do not hold. I don't think Jose's sacking fixes everything but am I ever glad he is gone.

We might see a slight improvement as the atmospheres in the dressing room is bound to lift or we might not but we are still in for a rocky period.

There are no guarantees that will will go back to contention quickly and I never claimed so, I even said before I would take some bad results if we were producing entertaining football but with Jose we got boring football and terrible results.

Things only get better if the board hire the right manager and they sure as hell did not do that with Jose. I don't recall anyone saying that once Jose is gone we are going to return to a winning streak actually.

PhlegmyMoses · 18-12-2018 01:17PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Southgate wouldn't take it. Why would he? - unsackable at England right now, a side with loads of youthful promise and even the English FA is more competent than Woodward and company.

And United should not want him. International football is for washed up managers or people not cut out for the club game. It is why you never hear about Jogi Loew going anywhere. Grand for international, massive risk at club level.

AGC · 18-12-2018 01:22PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Yeah i'm not really a UTD fan for extending the same curtosey to a poster who's been gif'ing frequently.

I'm not a UTD fan for being glad to see the manager who's been actively damaging our club and spending a fortune to do so finally get his well deserved sacking.

I'm not glad that hopefully we can turn over a new leaf and try return to some success as it clearly wasn't going to happen with Jose.

Sure mate, whatever you need to tell yourself.

Can't see this happening until further high level changes happen or a restructure at the top.

Necro · 18-12-2018 01:22PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Yeah i'm not really a UTD fan for extending the same curtosey to a poster who's been gif'ing frequently.

I'm not a UTD fan for being glad to see the manager who's been actively damaging our club and spending a fortune to do so finally get his well deserved sacking.

I'm not glad that hopefully we can turn over a new leaf and try return to some success as it clearly wasn't going to happen with Jose.

Sure mate, whatever you need to tell yourself.

Your opinion makes not a jot of a difference. That sort of sh1t is not conducive to a supporter of the club.

I don't even support United.

What's with the capitals anyways for Utd... it's bloody weird.

Harry Palmr · 18-12-2018 01:23PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

If fans didnt disengage from Liverpool after decades of mismanagement, chronic football and nearly going to the wall financially, I am not sure why Liverpool fan Rory Smith might be saying that about Manchester United.

Liverpool nearly going to the wall was a massive publicity boost for the club! The amount of coverage went through the roof, it was the biggest thing since the CL final 2005 but unlike that the coverage and interest went on much longer complete with drama in the high court.

When Roy Hodgson was in charge Anfield started to empty earlier and then the empty seats from KO started to be noted so the (then new) owners acted of course.

Played some decent football to be fair, esp under Evans and Rafa in 2008/9 and Europe and under both Rodgers and Klopp obviously - to think he was approached by Woodward who sold it like an adult Disney experience. Ghost ride more like.

AGC · 18-12-2018 01:24PM

Net seems to be closing in on Blanc for the interim and going by his odds for next permanent manager it seems to be lining up.

Your Airbag · 18-12-2018 01:25PM

I'd be happy to see Blanc take a shot at it. A huge step up for him but he plays positive progressive football.

PhlegmyMoses · 18-12-2018 01:26PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool nearly going to the wall was a massive publicity boost for the club! The amount of coverage went through the roof, it was the biggest thing since the CL final 2005 but unlike that the coverage and interest went on much longer complete with drama in the high court.

When Roy Hodgson was in charge Anfield started to empty earlier and then the empty seats from KO started to be noted so the (then new) owners acted of course.

Played some decent football to be fair, esp under Evans and Rafa in 2008/9 and Europe

So what you are saying is, the worse things got financially, the more engaged the fans became. Yet Liverpool fan Rory Smith thinks it will be different for United. Odd that

Necro · 18-12-2018 01:26PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Jesus, you must have missed all of Drumpots recent posts so

Meh, you're looking for a reaction. I'm calling it exactly as I see it as an outsider.

So what if he's upset about Mourinho being sacked - it's obvious to anyone on the street bar a select few in here apparently - that United's issue don't begin and end with this.

Players now there under what will be minimally four managers that are patently not good enough for the club.

A hierarchy that favours marketing over results.

Giving a manager a four year contract and not backing him in the market.

The issues are on so many levels that they don't start and end with the manager.

jayo26 · 18-12-2018 01:27PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Thanks, and it was necessary I felt. There was a narrative being formed by a large group of people on here that players and downed tools or were too average etc and that Jose was blameless and a proven winner. Anyone who went against that was ridiculed by a mob and gifs and pics etc, including a mod on here.

I had to push back against that as it can sway an entire thread an that nonsense was in danger of being a group opinion. Though it was very important to do so to make sure that opinion was certainly not shared by all UTD fans, so your thanks means something.

Jose did exactly what I said he would do. Play rubbish football, cause infighting, get fans to turn on each other and the players and then f*ck of in his 3rd season claiming he was a victim of some sort. It was bloody inevitable.

Whats shocking is that some people in here seem to be upset that his con-job is now over. I can't even start to begin what they must be thinking.

Bulsh1t!!!!!

You find me a number of posters here in months that said Jose should not be sacked!!! As everyone has repeated to you several times Jose is a problem He needed to go!!!

But Jose alone is not going fix the fortunes of the club we still have a bunch of players that will down tools when the pressure is on!!

We still have a man in charge that thinks not winning trophies does not harm the club as ling as the finances are good.

We still have owners that have saddled the club with a huge debt and don't have any interest in the football side of things!!!!!

If you want to live on your bubble that your doing some sorth of service for this thread by only focusing on Jose then that shows you up for what everyone else believes you are!!!!

So if you really are a genuine poster and you believe what you have just posted is true show me some posts from today where a number of people are devestaeted that Jose is gone and show me posts where a number of people have said that Jose is not to blame and everyone else is to blame??????

So here is your chance you back up what you have said and show your a genuine poster that stands by his beliefs or you ignore me and continue pedling your nonsense and soapboxing as you have done for the past number of months.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 18-12-2018 01:31PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Next manger is the most important appointment in United history ,
They can not afford to make another mistake,

I heard mention Southgate would people be happy with him ?

Poch seems number one choice but will he leave Spurs ?

Zidane won't come to a club with problems , he will hold out for the Juve job next

Southgate a definite no. England are a set-piece team he's definitely not what Utd need.

bryangiggsy · 18-12-2018 01:34PM

New manager caretaker or permanent needs to play attacking football. Would not give it to Carrick as he has no experience and too much $$$$ at stake with Champions league qualification a must

In
Hiddink or Blanc
Poch in summer

Out and i vomit when i say these...any defensive minded manager
Southgate,Big Sam,pardew,pulis,hodgson

IamtheWalrus · 18-12-2018 01:35PM

Can a mod stop this sniping shyte?

18-12-2018 01:36PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Can a mod stop this sniping shyte?

Depends who's doing the sniping.

How Soon Is Now · 18-12-2018 01:40PM

Ffs this whole fighting like kids is annoying as ****!

The manager just got sacked surely there's better things to talk about no!?

pjohnson · 18-12-2018 01:42PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Bulsh1t!!!!!

You find me a number of posters here in months that said Jose should not be sacked!!! As everyone has repeated to you several times Jose is a problem He needed to go!!!

But Jose alone is not going fix the fortunes of the club we still have a bunch of players that will down tools when the pressure is on!!

We still have a man in charge that thinks not winning trophies does not harm the club as ling as the finances are good.

We still have owners that have saddled the club with a huge debt and don't have any interest in the football side of things!!!!!

If you want to live on your bubble that your doing some sorth of service for this thread by only focusing on Jose then that shows you up for what everyone else believes you are!!!!

So if you really are a genuine poster and you believe what you have just posted is true show me some posts from today where a number of people are devestaeted that Jose is gone and show me posts where a number of people have said that Jose is not to blame and everyone else is to blame??????

So here is your chance you back up what you have said and show your a genuine poster that stands by his beliefs or you ignore me and continue pedling your nonsense and soapboxing as you have done for the past number of months.

Its just a case of

Your Airbag wrote: »

Its almost like some posters project what they would like others to think/say onto them without actually reading what they say in order to set up future attacks.

Your Airbag wrote: »

no matter what else they tell you.]

Econ__ · 18-12-2018 01:44PM

If you want to figure out which journalists are bluffers, watch out for the ones who are reporting ‘manager x is in the frame’

United have already briefed that they’ll appoint an external manager in 48 hours. That means that there isn’t anybody ‘in the frame’ but that the decision has already been made.

dfx- · 18-12-2018 01:49PM

Quit the personal arguments now please. The topic of this thread is Manchester United, not the posting history of other posters or having childish arguments. The thread will be cleaned up, posts may be deleted or carded.

jayo26 · 18-12-2018 01:50PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Wow, Thats a nice list of orders for me to follow. I am not some dog to play fetch and retroactively find posts for you, do it yourself.

No orders at all it was your chance to backup the trash you have been claiming goes on in here simple as that you declined that's your choice but it will be noted and pointed out again to show exactly what your at.

Mr.Nice Guy · 18-12-2018 02:01PM

Sad to see posters still having a go at one another. Now is the time to let all all of the bickering from the last few months slide. It's a new chapter commencing for United and one of its most important ones in recent times. It's essential to get the next appointment (or two if we're talking an interim manager) right and get the right person in place to implement a rebuilding phase to get United back into the top four, and then back to being a Premier League contender. A lot of the dead wood will have to be cleared out in the next 3-4 transfer windows as well as getting in players that not only have quality, but also the right mentality.

My feeling is if Poch is available in the summer he would be the right one to go for. He has done a very good job turning Spurs from perennial bottlers ("lads, it's Tottenham") into a consistently tough side, whilst playing attractive football and embracing giving young players a chance. I think he fits the United mould well, and if he is exasperated with the goings on at Spurs over the stadium and having to make do with a limited budget, he may be interested.

Short-term I'd prefer a caretaker manager and then go for the right man in the summer.

18-12-2018 02:01PM

Interesting that United chose to trigger Martial's contract extension last night, at the same time when there were clearly bigger decisions being made and finalised at the club.

Sure, businesses are capable of multi-tasking, but I'm now wondering do the chances of Martial staying beyond next Summer increase or decrease given this morning's news.

I would have to believe that Martial was in the "90% of the dressing room" which Jose reportedly lost.

18-12-2018 02:02PM

FFS lads, there was mod warning.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

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