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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018
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Gomez out for 6 weeks with a broken ankle. Big blow, but ligament damage would've been a lot worse.
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/328824-joe-gomez-injury-latest-liverpool
back fighting fit in time for the title run-in !
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It's a funny season in the sense that we've started it remarkably, albeit without the swashbuckling football we've seen at various periods over the past few years.....and yet.......there's the definite sense on here - Twitter also - that folk are just waiting to say 'There, told you' when we have a bad result.
We have 39 points from 45, played Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal away (and City at home), conceded 6 goals FFS, and people still seem to be waiting for it to fall apart. I'm often nervous before games - last night also - but we almost always do enough (and a little more besides) these days. That's surely the point, no? How much more convincing do we have to be?
We have come so close before and (im not using that word) messed up, got pipped, had an unlucky injury in the most important match of last season, have been there or there abouts on numerous occasions in the league and cups and never got over the line.
There is only so much hope you can have before cautious optimism turns to refusing to believe to save yourself more heartache!
I learned years ago never to get too excited in life, things rarely work out, expect the worst and anything else is a positive - Im taking this one game at a time!
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Doesn’t sound like a great player to need all thatJe_suis_Jean wrote: »He's a great footballer if correctly managed and motivated (by the manager) and is in a team which plays to his individual strengths (a roaming AM type role) and weaknesses (inability or lack of interest in pressing and defending). At the moment he has the wrong manager and is part of the wrong team.
Pogba has talent, but he’s a bird brain. Even allowing for Jose, the sh!t he was doing against Southampton was just appalling. France seemed to use him as a direct runner at times, but with Kante ready behind him if he lost the ball. He’s not the influence behind their WC win as Zidane was.
He’s a few months away from being 26 years old, but still acts like a kid new to the game.0 -
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munstermagic11 wrote: »Doesn’t sound like a great player to need all that
Pogba has talent, but he’s a bird brain. Even allowing for Jose, the sh!t he was doing against Southampton was just appalling. France seemed to use him as a direct runner at times, but with Kante ready behind him if he lost the ball. He’s not the influence behind their WC win as Zidane was.
He’s a few months away from being 26 years old, but still acts like a kid new to the game.
I don't disagree too much with you there and I'm not a defender of Pogba's unprofessional behaviour on and off the pitch but his problems seems to be strongly correlated to Mourinho/Utd. I don't recall anyone saying he behaved poorly on or off the pitch whilst at Juventus and similarly with France.
Good managers adapt and get the best out of their staff regardless of whether those staff are multi millionaire footballers or factory workers. Whilst no manager should allow one team member unlimited latitude to act the pr1ck regardless of their talent it is incumbent on a manager to figure out how to get the best out of each member of his team.
Players rebelling against a manager they have fallen out with and no longer respect is nothing new. Back in the day players would maintain a stiff upper lip, not go crying to the press but would advocate for a senior player or players to go see the Chairman and see if they can convince him to make a change.
Social media has changed all that and now players can make their unhappiness with a manager and/or style of play etc clear without overtly stating it and that is what's happening with Pogba. He's basically decided that as long as Mourinho is managing Utd he'll never be happy so he's barely going through the motions safe in the knowledge he's a WC winner, will still pick up £200,000 a week (or whatever) and has all the commercial opportunities and social media attention he can handle regardless of his performances.
A good manager and/or a well run club would prevent such a situation from ever developing and if it did they'd spot it early and deal decicively with it in the same way SAF did with a few players like Jaap Stam over the years and Klopp did with Mamadou Sakho because as soon as you let one player away with it the rot sets in and you find yourself in the situation Utd are now in and Chelsea found themselves in at the end of Mourinho's 2nd reign and again during Conte's 2nd year in charge.
Can you see something like that being allowed to develop at Spurs where Levy would nip it in the bud in a nano second or with Klopp after how he dealt with Sakho?
Pogbas behaviour will forever taint his reputation but at 26 he could easily be rehabilitated under a new manager at Utd and 6 months later after decent performances and behaviour on and off the pitch all would be (almost) forgotten.0 -
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