Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

pixelburp wrote: »

He wanted to be CEO of America.

I am not certain that he wanted to win - I think he ran as a stunt and then it grew legs and he is constitutionally unable to back down so he kept running and the Republicans are so useless that he got the nomination by default.


As for CEO - he is a disaster in business, bankrupt many times, bailed out by his dad, in hock to the Russians. It is not clear if his businesses are even solvent never mind making him a billionaire. He is a reality TV CEO on The Apprentice, and that is where he should have stayed. Instead he risks dying in jail.

looksee wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2018/nov/30/trump-walks-off-leaving-mauricio-macri-standing-alone-at-g20-video

...and Trump wanders off stage at G2.

This seems to have been a misunderstanding but such is his rack record, anything he does is interpreted negatively.

He is the author of this reality of course.

everlast75 wrote: »

You hear him say "get me out of here".

I'm telling ye, he wants out.

While I reckon he believes that no-one else could come close to him in terms of doing the job brilliantly, I do see him asking 'why in God's name did I allow them to talk me into this... It's been nothing but trouble, and now the crazy Dems want to throw the young lad in jail and maybe worse... I wouldn't mind but look how I've saved the country. Bloody ungrateful lot!!!'

looksee wrote: »

I do agree with your point, however what was more noticeable was the way he walked across the front of the other president as though he were a mere obstacle on the stage. He has no awareness, no innate grace or courtesy, he did it in the same way he 'missed' his limo that time, or pushed to the front of the group at another international meeting.

Oh I know. Him pushing the President of Montenegro aside was a perfect insight to the man.

Or the frown he has when sitting for 1:1 photo's with some world leaders.
Or Merkel holding her head in her hands when talking to him.

But all Presidents could have been photographed at less then opportune moments, at this stage, I think the press corps are looking for such examples because of how he treats them.

everlast75 wrote: »

You hear him say "get me out of here".

I'm telling ye, he wants out.

if he lied to the public re trump tower, the russians have leverage (even without pee tapes).
That's why Flynn had to go.

Well he could do the decent thing if he does not want it anymore. He could apologise to Hilary Clinton say look he is sorry and let her take over. Sure she is not perfect either but she would have been a much better President than him.

AMKC wrote: »

Well he could do the decent thing if he does not want it anymore. He could apologise to Hilary Clinton say look he is sorry and let her take over. Sure she is not perfect either but she would have been a much better President than him.

You are joking right?

One question coming from the meeting is the agreement between China and the U.S not to go ahead with the trade tariffs each said was it's response to the other - who blinked first? There must have been backroom meetings between Sec/State and his opposite number at the meet for there to be such a declaration.

How will Don explain away his u-turn and is it part of a new universal form of diplomacy from Don [or Sec/State], seeing as the Mexico/US/Canada deal was announced during the meeting.

Should the U.S media follow up on what looks like a China/U.S trade tariff armistice and risk Don going "NO, NO, NO" in response to whatever pact there is on the tariffs or just obligingly stay quiet for the sake of peace?

Has Don eventually got to understand real politik as practiced between trading countries and blocs.

Mike Pence must be the most invisible VP ever. Compared to Biden he might as well not exist. Is it just me or do you never hear anything about him / from him?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Hahahhahahaa
No, she wouldnt, still the worst person in US politics.

*Waits patiently for proof which cannot pizza gate, Bengazi, Bill's indiscretions*

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Her entire career has been pandering to what gets votes , turning on a whim when popularity of issues decides, grossly negligent and a lot of times actively malicious in achieving what she wants. Donald isn't perfect but he sticks to his guns and you get what you see.

I, personally, can't bloody stand Hilary Clinton. However, you just described literally every politician.

Also, taking this back to Donald, he himself constantly flip-flops on things. Especially his opinion of people.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

why doesn't benghazi count ?
Theres also thousands of deleted emails on a private server,
Theres even an entire wikipedia category : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hillary_Clinton_controversies

heres an article breaking down the fbi report which indicates that they accept that her handling of sensitive information was grossly negligent but just didn't meet the standard of appearing 'willful' enough to prosecute.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/politics/comey-clinton-fbi-report.html

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/01/7-Hillary-Clinton-s-Biggest-Flip-Flops a list of her largest flip flops, abortion isn't even on there and they don't even go into immigration a lot there. Heres another flip flop timeline all sources noted : https://imgur.com/gallery/yZ0LZDP

Her entire career has been pandering to what gets votes , turning on a whim when popularity of issues decides, grossly negligent and a lot of times actively malicious in achieving what she wants. Donald isn't perfect but he sticks to his guns and you get what you see.

Bengazi doesn't count because, despite dozens of hours testimony and various probes and the Reps best efforts, there was no prosecution.

There was no prosecution when the FBI investigated her.

Trump flip flops his stance in literally the same week. He was a registered democrat ffs.

And Trump doesn't only pander to certain groups, he's up to his neck in Country sponsored special interests.

So, despite Trump being an un-indicted co-conspirator, with imminent adverse findings expected on collusion, obstruction of justice, and numerous close allies behind bars, you think Hillary is worse?

Seriously mate, get some perspective.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

why doesn't benghazi count ?
Theres also thousands of deleted emails on a private server,
Theres even an entire wikipedia category : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hillary_Clinton_controversies

heres an article breaking down the fbi report which indicates that they accept that her handling of sensitive information was grossly negligent but just didn't meet the standard of appearing 'willful' enough to prosecute.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/politics/comey-clinton-fbi-report.html

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/01/7-Hillary-Clinton-s-Biggest-Flip-Flops a list of her largest flip flops, abortion isn't even on there and they don't even go into immigration a lot there. Heres another flip flop timeline all sources noted : https://imgur.com/gallery/yZ0LZDP

Her entire career has been pandering to what gets votes , turning on a whim when popularity of issues decides, grossly negligent and a lot of times actively malicious in achieving what she wants. Donald isn't perfect but he sticks to his guns and you get what you see.

That’s insane, Trump is not just the worst politician, he’s literally the worst person in the World! Hillary’s emails and Benghazi wast all BS, especially compared to all the terrible things Trump and his cohorts have pulled. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, Trump doesn’t just flip-flop, he does it in the same run on sentence!