The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

Ron Burgundy II · 29-11-2018 05:25PM

Brace yourself ...... I purchased a pollen fillter and a seat cover.

Oh also purchased home smart tech echo dot and some plugs.

dar83 · 29-11-2018 05:27PM

Neilw wrote: »

There was an offer of zero vat, so 23% discount. A friend of mine had his Audi done.

As said already, the VAT on software was 13.5%. so nowhere near the 25% discount offered the last couple of years.

Edit: Just to add, that discount was also Dalton's own implementation, not from Revo themselves, so fair play to Dalton's on that front, they took a hit when the supplier wasn't willing to and I have admiration for George doing that.

dar83 · 29-11-2018 05:34PM

hooch-85 wrote: »

I was looking at springs from Awesome in the UK and they were working out quite cheap, didn't go for them in the end.

Looked at Revo too but the offer was pretty weak, went for custom tune instead. Have a look at my thread on autostadt and you'll see how it went:)

Planning a set of BBS SR next year in grey and some slight lowering and i'll be happy with that

I think you hit the nail on the head here. My main reason for going Revo would be because of the SPS switch and being able to put the car back to stock (or Revo's version of stock) if and when needed. Paying nearly €900 for a Stage 1 map and SPS switch is slightly pulling the piss though, which is why the 25% discount was a large incentive to do so. Makes far more sense otherwise to pay €350-400 for a custom map with rolling road direct to your own car.

Also nice wheel choice, they suit the GTD/GTI really nicely, I'm actually contemplating them for my winter setup but might have missed the boat on that for this year.

hooch-85 · 29-11-2018 05:37PM

Will definitely be next year's plans for me too.

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 06:43PM

Looking at the extra list anyone any thoughts on

Keyless locking and starting with or without safe lock. (Am I right in thinking there's no keyless entry available with either option and you've to put the key in the ignition to start it)

Adaptive chassis control including driving profile selection

Discovery Pro Nav

Theft alarm plus

Dynaudio sound system (do this cost you any storage space, how goods the ordinary sound system)

29-11-2018 06:48PM

dar83 wrote: »

Paying nearly €900 for a Stage 1 map and SPS switch is slightly pulling the piss though, which is why the 25% discount was a large incentive to do so. Makes far more sense otherwise to pay €350-400 for a custom map with rolling road direct to your own car.
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Someone over on backroads had a Joe Power map done that only "kicked in" when in sport mode.DSG obviously

JoeA3 · 29-11-2018 06:54PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Looking at the extra list anyone any thoughts on

Keyless locking and starting with or without safe lock. (Am I right in thinking there's no keyless entry available with either option and you've to put the key in the ignition to start it)

Adaptive chassis control including driving profile selection

Discovery Pro Nav

Theft alarm plus

Dynaudio sound system (do this cost you any storage space, how goods the ordinary sound system)

Definitely "with safelock" but I think this is standard if you also spec the alarm. "Safe-Lock" is deadlocks. Not standard! No, with keyless, there is no ignition barrel. Its push button start/stop. The key itself still has a flick out key blade though!

For Dynaudio, a small subwoofer goes into the spare wheel well. So it doesn't cost much space at all no. I thought the standard system was pretty decent tbh. For comparison stakes, I have the upgraded "Harmon Kardon" system in the BMW now and that's excellent, but not massively better than the standard VW sound. Whereas standard BMW audio (non Harmon Kardon) is absolutely awful.

dar83 · 29-11-2018 06:56PM

BrownFinger wrote: »

Someone over on backroads had a Joe Power map done that only "kicked in" when in sport mode.DSG obviously

On a MK7/MQB platform car? Interesting...

doesn't quite help me though, as i'm in a 6M. But it sounds like there may be potential!

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 07:08PM

I called the insurance company I'm not getting any extra for having a better alarm so might skip that option.

I'm in two mind about the keyless, what I meant was do I need to take the key out of my pocket to get into it? The Mrs car you just touch the handle and it opens no need to take out a key.
My own in push button but then I end up putting the keys in the coffee cup holder so thinking I might as well have them hanging out of the ignition at least they have a home.

Good the audio is decent as standard.

The giant screen with the pro Nav doesn't really appeal, again a big one in the Mrs car but it's a fingerprint magnet.

The technology pack seems to nearly get me by then.

vintagevrs · 29-11-2018 07:12PM

Keyless in the golf means full keyless. Keep the key in your pocket and the door unlocks when you touch the handle and there is no ignition barrell, but instead a start stop button beside the gear stick.

Main question now though would be security. The keyless entry system makes the car much more vulnerable to theft.

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 07:17PM

Good that's what I want so it's back on the extra list. I'm not overly worried about theft not exactly living in the crime capital of Ireland.

tossy · 29-11-2018 08:10PM

dar83 wrote: »

On a MK7/MQB platform car? Interesting...

doesn't quite help me though, as i'm in a 6M. But it sounds like there may be potential!

I drove a big BHP manual mk5 GTI that had 3 maps, you pressed the brake pedal once,twice or three times just before turning it over to select the map you wanted - and when you started it the rev needle went to 1k 2k or 3k to indicate that map was selected. Pretty sure the car was mapped by joe.

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 11:11PM

Looking on the vw german website they have co2 of the manual and dsg, I presume these are the new WLTP figures, it drops the vrt band on the auto and it'll have lower tax rate here as well.

2.0 TSI OPF

180 kW (245 hp)
6-speed
6.8 l / 100km * 4
153 g / km * 4
Efficiency class
D
* 5
from 227,69 € / month * 2 , * 3
or € 33,625.00 * 1

2.0 TSI OPF

180 kW (245 hp)
7-speed dual-clutch gearbox DSG
6.2 l / 100km * 4
140 g / km * 4
Efficiency class
C
* 5
from € 241.40 / month * 6 , * 3
or 35.650,00 € * 1

https://www.volkswagen.de/app/konfigurator/vw-de/de/der-golf/30315/39150/gti-%22performance%22?page=engine&intcmp=CMSFindenKaufen-shopteaser01-konfigurator-startseite

Max Q · 29-11-2018 11:25PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Looking at the extra list anyone any thoughts on

Keyless locking and starting with or without safe lock. (Am I right in thinking there's no keyless entry available with either option and you've to put the key in the ignition to start it)

Adaptive chassis control including driving profile selection

Discovery Pro Nav

Theft alarm plus

Dynaudio sound system (do this cost you any storage space, how goods the ordinary sound system)

Definitely get keyless. I wouldn't be without it.

I have adaptive chassis control on my R and it is nice to be able to select different damper settings and you do notice the difference. It's one of those things I could probably live without but I think it is also one of those things that would niggle at me if I didn't have it.

Does the GTI come with an alarm now as standard? Because this was not the case previously, you had to spec one or it would arrive with no alarm!

I think you said you were getting a manual gearbox, have you test driven a DSG GTI? I wouldn't be without DSG personally. DSG usually holds it value come resale time too, as they are usually a premium over the manual.

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 11:33PM

Have adaptive on my current car I use it the odd time, wouldn't miss it that much.
Ahh no, now I need the alarm option : (

Was going to go manual but if those WLTP figures are correct it could make the DSG cheaper to buy here than the manual.

No sign of the R on their website.

drunkmonkey · 29-11-2018 11:44PM

If my figures are right the list price on the DSG should drop by 1806.80 to 43,363. DSG will still be 993 more expensive but it's dropping to the B2 tax band so 270 tax same as GTD.

Max Q · 29-11-2018 11:45PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Have adaptive on my current car I use it the odd time, wouldn't miss it that much.
Ahh no, now I need the alarm option : (

Was going to go manual but if those WLTP figures are correct it could make the DSG cheaper to buy here than the manual.

No sign of the R on their website.

Yeah I just had a look at the latest product guide 01.10.18 and it seems the GTI doesn't get an alarm as standard, only the R does, so you will have to spec it if you want an alarm. Also, if you are going for keyless with Safelock (which I'd recommend) it says this option forces you to spec the alarm.

Definitely get a test drive in a DSG equipped GTI before you pull the trigger.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 12:15AM

I'm rarely stuck in traffic, if I was hitting dublin a lot i'd 100% go auto but it's mainly twistys and a motorway blast I have, Still if the price difference is only 663 over the 3 years after tax price drop it might be the more sensible option in the long run.

SaintsYB · 30-11-2018 12:19AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If my figures are right the list price on the DSG should drop by 1806.80 to 43,363. DSG will still be 993 more expensive but it's dropping to the B2 tax band so 270 tax same as GTD.

Where are you seeing that the prices are coming down to those new ones?

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 12:25AM

SaintsYB wrote: »

Where are you seeing that the prices are coming down to those new ones?

Going by the WLTP co2 on the vw german site, the DSG drops to 140 co2 which would mean a 4% Vrt cut and drop in tax bands.

https://www.volkswagen.de/app/konfigurator/vw-de/de/der-golf/30315/39150/gti-%22performance%22?page=engine&intcmp=CMSFindenKaufen-shopteaser01-konfigurator-startseite

SaintsYB · 30-11-2018 12:35AM

I figured the current prices on the Irish site were up to date with WLTP and that was that. That's a nice chunk to come down.

bazz26 · 30-11-2018 12:38AM

I'm normally a big fan of automatics over a manual but I'd see a hot hatch as one of those exceptions where it would be a more fun car with a manual gearbox. VW's DSG is very good but I'd test drive both a manual and DSG GTi before making that decision.

Max Q · 30-11-2018 12:40AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'm rarely stuck in traffic, if I was hitting dublin a lot i'd 100% go auto but it's mainly twistys and a motorway blast I have, Still if the price difference is only 663 over the 3 years after tax price drop it might be the more sensible option in the long run.

It's worth mentioning that the ACC adaptive cruise integrates perfectly with DSG, not so much with the manual. With DSG it can slow to a full stop and take off from stationary with no driver input other than steering, it's just better integrated with the tech in the car. That said, I totally get why people might want a manual.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 12:45AM

SaintsYB wrote: »

I figured the current prices on the Irish site were up to date with WLTP and that was that. That's a nice chunk to come down.

I was hoping the manual would come down in co2 enough to drop the price but it's gone up slightly in co2. The german website looks like it's only been updated with them today.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 12:50AM

Max Q wrote: »

It's worth mentioning that the ACC adaptive cruise integrates perfectly with DSG, not so much with the manual. With DSG it can slow to a full stop and take off from stationary with no driver input other than steering, it's just better integrated with the tech in the car. That said, I totally get why people might want a manual.

Good to know about the dsg.
If it's higher tax, fuel economy, and vrt on the manual i'll probably end up getting the dsg.
Have an auto with paddle shifters at the moment, was looking forward to a manual for a change.

JoeA3 · 30-11-2018 01:52AM

I’ve had a couple of manual GTI’s and a DSG R.

It’s hard to know. For a lot of city and stop start driving the dsg wins hands down. It’s also a lot of fun in the 0-60 sprint, flicking through the gears with the exhaust rasping. It’s also works brilliantly with the other tech in the car. The auto cruise, stop/start, etc.
But the manual box is is really very nice indeed and I’d be very tempted to choose it if the car wasn’t a heavy traffic daily. And even then it’s not like it’s an uncomfortable car to drive in traffic. The clutch is light and positioned where you’d expect to find it. Contrast that with my wife’s A4. Really uncomfortable to drive in traffic. Clutch pedal feels so misplaced it could be in the car driving next to you..

vintagevrs · 30-11-2018 06:04AM

Think I'd go manual too. Had the dsg and on paper it's better in every way for reasons stated already, but I did miss the 3rd pedal in the R.

MisterDrak · 30-11-2018 10:49AM

Jesus, I must be getting old in my ways, i would never go back to manual at this stage. Its DSG all day long. In saying that 90% of my driving in the city verity.

hooch-85 · 30-11-2018 10:54AM

Seems to be some very nice demo's out there there around 181/82 reg. I don't know if i could bring myself to buy a brand new one with the MK8 just around the corner. If you are putting it through a business, well that's a different story.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 11:22AM

They say the mk 8 will have fuel saving technology and autonomous driving. If your looking at a 2019 GTi performance those upgrades are about as useful as a gold fish bowl under the drivers seat.
Body wise there not going to reinvent the wheel and the tartan seats are going nowhere. Spec it out with the pro media and 2019 MK7.5 will be no way old school in 3yrs.
Expect a price bump in the 8 as well if they've to put in some hybrid tech.

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