Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

mattser · 03-11-2018 10:41AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

She is talentless and one of these girls who constantly wants people to laugh at her unfunny jokes.

High maintenance.

In the cushy RTnest now.

That dancing with the stars skit on the LLS was truly embarrassing

listermint · 03-11-2018 10:57AM

You know when posters start talking about globalist open borders do good that they are actually just trolling.

It's this type of guff that ignores the fact that we live in a global economy. Our island relies on global trade we are brimmed with foreign direct investment. Most people here rely on that for work or work in an industry that services it or sells into it.

Many of you lads would prefer we all lived in a gulag shoveling bales of hay in a collective.

You haven't a breeze what globalist means it's a throwaway term. The same people using it are out there giving out about the EU without which we wouldn't have our motorways or enjoyed an ounce of the growth this country has had over the last 30 years.

You'd have us living in a backwater. Your devisive comments are as transparent as the solutions you offer for the gripes you come up with.

It's all just anger , misdirected and lacking substance.

Tell us all it real terms how you are surpressed ? Give us some evidence

Plumbthedepths · 03-11-2018 11:09AM

Not the best of performances by Casey last night, but an absolute mess for Tubs and the Pavee Point idiots that tried to ambush Casey

03-11-2018 11:10AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

The Gardai have batons, don't they?

Go in swinging.

end of the road would be up in arms at that I'd say.

Roark · 03-11-2018 11:12AM

listermint wrote: »

Which is why I'd question his suitability to ambassador our country.

Which was the job he was applying for.

People supported him because he gave them a voice. Also, the majority of them didn't expect him to win.

And how high were the stakes anyway when the alternative was a lying socialist hypocrite who has fawned over Cuba, hosted Ortega at his residence in Galway and spent most of his political life criticising America.

Do you have similar concerns over Michael D's suitability?

listermint · 03-11-2018 11:20AM

Roark wrote: »

People supported him because he gave them a voice. Also, the majority of them didn't expect him to win.

And how high were the stakes anyway when the alternative was a lying socialist hypocrite who has fawned over Cuba, hosted Ortega at his residence in Galway and spent most of his political life criticising America.

Do you have similar concerns over Michael D's suitability?

He was the most suited out of the crop of people applying.

That is my opinion.

Casey gave no one a voice they don't already have. These same people are not bothered voting for new parties . So they aren't too bothered about their voice. Protest vote with zero results.

Get off their arse and start campaigning to councillors and TDs if they want change.

Or dish out pointless protest votes when they get activated at a perceived bogey man.

Look at the protest vote in the UK millions voting for themselves to be put out of work.again a perceived bogey man. The EU

pumpkin4life · 03-11-2018 11:25AM

listermint wrote: »

You know when posters start talking about globalist open borders do good that they are actually just trolling.

It's this type of guff that ignores the fact that we live in a global economy. Our island relies on global trade we are brimmed with foreign direct investment. Most people here rely on that for work or work in an industry that services it or sells into it.

Many of you lads would prefer we all lived in a gulag shoveling bales of hay in a collective.

You haven't a breeze what globalist means it's a throwaway term. The same people using it are out there giving out about the EU without which we wouldn't have our motorways or enjoyed an ounce of the growth this country has had over the last 30 years.

You'd have us living in a backwater. Your devisive comments are as transparent as the solutions you offer for the gripes you come up with.

It's all just anger , misdirected and lacking substance.

Tell us all it real terms how you are surpressed ? Give us some evidence

The United Nations document. They're trying to centralize and make migration a human right. Link to the document:

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180713_agreed_outcome_global_compact_for_migration.pdf

International cooperation: The Global Compact is a non-legally binding cooperative framework that recognizes that no State can address migration on its own due to the inherently transnational nature of the phenomenon. It requires international, regional and bilateral cooperation and dialogue. Its authority rests on its consensual nature, credibility, collective
ownership, joint implementation, follow-up and review.

National sovereignty: The Global Compact reaffirms the sovereign right of States to determine their national migration policy and their prerogative to govern migration within their jurisdiction, in conformity with international law. Within their sovereign jurisdiction, States may distinguish between regular and irregular migration status, including as they determine their legislative and policy measures for the implementation of the Global Compact, taking into account different national realities, policies, priorities and requirements for entry, residence and work, in accordance with international law.

People like Mary Robinson are moving towards centralizing the movement of people across different countries. So when I say, open borders and globalism, that is completely true.

Ursus Horribilis · 03-11-2018 11:27AM

I think everyone agrees that Casey himself isn't an impressive political candidate and that the protest vote for him wasn't going to unseat Michael D. He was a shoe-in and was always going to be. What he has done, though, is put a crack in the wall of consensus around the travelling community. That they're all grand lads and lassies, nothing to see here, move along. Last night's Late Late was yet another attempt to shut down the dissenting voices.

I hope this isn't going to go away because the existing policies in this country have given us the travelling community as they are today. People who operate outside the law and face no consequences for their actions.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-11-2018 11:29AM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

If you have any job that has economic value, then its a proper job.

Public sector jobs (guards, health, STEM lecturers and a couple of others being pretty much the exception) are for the most part sponger jobs.

Mary Robinson has spent her whole life working in NGO, bullshìt jobs where she has been able to talk a bunch of shìte while the taxpayer has to splash out for it.

Hate is bad! Equality good!

Wow she's a genius! Let's give her a six figure salary!

Why would I listen to her? Robinson lives in a bubble.

People on this forum like to go about scroungers on the dole. These people are a magnitude worse, far far worse than that "scrounger" on the dole.

I'd be saying the same if she was right wing btw.

Edit: I think Donal O Keefe deleted his tweet. I didn't archive it but the tweet had him saying "fùck off back to America Casey you divisive prick".

O Keefe is a journalist for thejournal.ie.

Fun fact - the mayo Bourke family she comes from were major slave holders.

FrancieBrady · 03-11-2018 11:30AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Yeah he really isn’t very articulate.

If there was someone who was able to convey his opinions properly they would do well.

But I still admire what he said and for standing by his opinion.

How much more articulate do you need to be?

There is nothing beyond stating the 'soundbytes' since Casey started. He falls apart when questioned on his opinions.
Evidenced again last night.

I am still laughing at the 'Phoenix Park' interlude and the idea that a mouthful like that could be defended or expanded on. Pure hate based rethoric designed to rabble rouse. And again, it has been successful to a degree, but I reckon there are a lot of IQ's considering their positions at the moment across the country.

Plumbthedepths · 03-11-2018 11:33AM

I see the 'hate' nonsense is still being trotted out. I wonder will any examples of this hate speech be provided? Although Casey was referred to repeatedly as a racist yet none could back up this claim.

Edward M · 03-11-2018 11:37AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How much more articulate do you need to be?

There is nothing beyond stating the 'soundbytes' since Casey started. He falls apart when questioned on his opinions.
Evidenced again last night.

I am still laughing at the 'Phoenix Park' interlude and the idea that a mouthful like that could be defended or expanded on. Pure hate based rethoric designed to rabble rouse. And again, it has been successful to a degree, but I reckon there are a lot of IQ's considering their positions at the moment across the country.

Good enough point, people are considering their position, that's the good thing about his views.
The sly dig regarding the IQ is a bit low though.
Given where your own political support lies, or at least your defence of everything SF, its a bit like the kettle trying to paint the pot black perhaps?

Idbatterim · 03-11-2018 11:37AM

Now even the Irish times saying how we have gone to the left. Leo the leftist liar. If a party like renua can get 15-20% of vote, it would throw a hand grenade into Irish politics ...

FrancieBrady · 03-11-2018 11:37AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I see the 'hate' nonsense is still being trotted out. I wonder will any examples of this hate speech be provided? Although Casey was referred to repeatedly as a racist yet none could back up this claim.

The indefensible Phoenix Park remarks are an example. Why else would you demean a community like that? Can YOU explain it?

When you make a generalised point like his whole point around this issue and you cannot publicly defend them (and he has not been able to do it on a number of occasions) then it is safe to say they are based in a general hate of that community.

Plumbthedepths · 03-11-2018 11:40AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The indefensible Phoenix Park remarks are an example. Why else would you demean a community like that? Can YOU explain it?

When you make a generalised point like his whole point around this issue and you cannot publicly defend them (and he has not been able to do it on a number of occasions) then it is safe to say they are based in a general hate of that community.

You are the one making claims about hate speech up to you to back up your claim with evidence not just your opinion.

blinding · 03-11-2018 11:40AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Not the best of performances by Casey last night, but an absolute mess for Tubs and the Pavee Point idiots that tried to ambush Casey

The Rte Bushwhack unit ain’t even able to organise a Bushwhack .

Not surprising from Rte mind .

dor843088 · 03-11-2018 11:40AM

Just a fun fact. Looks like tubers has deleted his instagram. Maybe not related I just noticed it this morning. Can anyone confirm if it was up and running before the casey interview?

FrancieBrady · 03-11-2018 11:41AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You are the one making claims about hate speech up to you to back up your claim with evidence not just your opinion.

??? Why would it have to be more than 'my' opinion? Whose 'opinion' are you expressing?

Idbatterim · 03-11-2018 11:42AM

“You'd have us living in a backwater. Your devisive comments are as transparent as the solutions you offer for the gripes you come up with.” We live in a backwater. Boil motives, raw sewage discharged into the sea, joke infrastructure , housing crisis. A justice system that can’t lock anyone up! Lol! All areas that needed / need more investment, we do however have one world class area, the welfare spend.

Fair play to Casey for calling it as it is. But you need someone in there very articulate and with some nous, if this whole rotten to the core state , is to be taken to task ...

Ursus Horribilis · 03-11-2018 11:42AM

listermint wrote: »

Get off their arse and start campaigning to councillors and TDs if they want change.

Do you seriously think that people up and down the country haven't been getting on to their local politicians for years over the problems they're having with travellers? If anything was being done, Casey would not have received that number of votes.

You know and I know that enacting change in an established political party is next to impossible. Even if a councillor or TD tries to do something, they'll be whipped and made to toe the party line. Even if the mainstream parties make noises sort of agreeing with Casey's points, it'll be mere lip service.

blinding · 03-11-2018 11:42AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Fun fact - the mayo Bourke family she comes from were major slave holders.

She certainly carried on the talk down to people attitude with her .

Idbatterim · 03-11-2018 11:42AM

“You'd have us living in a backwater. Your devisive comments are as transparent as the solutions you offer for the gripes you come up with.” We live in a backwater. Boil notices, raw sewage discharged into the sea, joke infrastructure , housing crisis. A justice system that can’t lock anyone up! Lol! All areas that needed / need more investment, we do however have one world class area, the welfare spend.

Fair play to Casey for calling it as it is. But you need someone in there very articulate and with some nous, if this whole rotten to the core state , is to be taken to task ...

Plumbthedepths · 03-11-2018 11:43AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

??? Why would it have to be more than 'my' opinion? Whose 'opinion' are you expressing?

So your claims of hate speech is just your opinion, with nothing to back it up?I thought you had evidence. Grand so.

dor843088 · 03-11-2018 11:43AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The indefensible Phoenix Park remarks are an example. Why else would you demean a community like that? Can YOU explain it?

When you make a generalised point like his whole point around this issue and you cannot publicly defend them (and he has not been able to do it on a number of occasions) then it is safe to say they are based in a general hate of that community.

Would you say a better solution is to let them squat on people's land ? If I couldn't get away with that why should a traveller ?

blinding · 03-11-2018 11:45AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Now even the Irish times saying how we have gone to the left. Leo the leftist liar. If a party like renua can get 15-20% of vote, it would throw a hand grenade into Irish politics ...

Forget the Gay marriage / abortion stuff . Its done . Run a platform against Rural Crime and the intimidation of old people in Rural Homes and the Casey Vote is there for the taking .

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2018 11:45AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Now even the Irish times saying how we have gone to the left. Leo the leftist liar. If a party like renua can get 15-20% of vote, it would throw a hand grenade into Irish politics ...

Do you crack one off when thinking about that party, you're as bad as a drug pusher, it's funny though

FrancieBrady · 03-11-2018 11:45AM

dor843088 wrote: »

Would you say a better solution is to let them squat on people's land ? If I couldn't get away with that why should a traveller ?

It was a solution??? Are you guys for real?

The amount of nomadic travellers camping on the side of the road or illegally is a tiny percentage of what it used to be. It is dying out.

Idbatterim · 03-11-2018 11:46AM

Leo the liar must have been on the red line to his propaganda mates in RTÉ, telling them to try and bury Casey! Probably told them there’ll be a license fee hike forthcoming if they do a good job!

Plumbthedepths · 03-11-2018 11:48AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Leo the liar must have been on the red like to his propaganda mates in RTÉ, telling them to try and bury Casey! Probably told them there’ll be a license fee hike forthcoming if they do a good job!

It was a terrible attempt at a hatchet job. Casey wasn't great but Tubs and the idiots from PP were absolute clowns.

Idbatterim · 03-11-2018 11:50AM

blinding wrote: »

Forget the Gay marriage / abortion stuff . Its done . Run a platform against Rural Crime and the intimidation of old people in Rural Homes and the Casey Vote is there for the taking .

Exactly, but I’d be running on an actual reward with programme, ie usc abolition and actual solutions to the housing crisis too. Force higher densities and reduce build cost , universal public housing actually ... forget going for ten percent of the vote, go to remove those enemies of the state ff and fg from power ...

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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