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Throw away the key

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Assuming he serves the full sentence, he'll be back on the streets at 39. Very high chance that he'll re-offend as he sounds like a very damaged and dangerous individual.

    Horrible case, really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    I suppose on the plus side, it means one less woman-hating alt-right nut job on this forum.

    Hurr durr.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Will he end up in Arbour Hill with all the other sex offenders.

    It doesnt sound like he would benefit from any treatment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Assuming he serves the full sentence, he'll be back on the streets at 39. Very high chance that he'll re-offend as he sounds like a very damaged and dangerous individual.

    Horrible case, really.

    This.

    Concurrent sentencing means it's only 14 years he'll be doing which will put him back on the streets at the age of 39 - still young. He is a monster and to be honest, given the financial cost to society of maintaining him in a prison, I feel there is a justification for him to die soon.

    One point to highlight in this situation is that the guy went into care at a young age - yet another example of a child being put into care and then just being released into society. I honestly struggle to see how he could have ended up any worse than this by being kept with his family - he would have suffered but san innocent person may not have. It is more inhumane to throw him in a care facility and then just release him into the wild.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    When the doctor examining him, tried to carry out certain psychological tests, the judge said Berkeley became aggressive and agitated and threatened the doctor with physical harm and the judge said he was not optimistic about the prospects of rehabilitation.
    So what happens when he gets out?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    I wonder where are all the crowds of people that protested on the streets when Paddy Jackson was found innocent? Was this not high profile enough for them? That was the thing that had me suspicious about the motivations behind about that march. I mean, if they had organised the march against Larry Murphy or this b*stard I would have been front row center.

    I think for particular offences, if you carry them out once, then you forgo all rights to liberty or life. This is one of those offences In any right thinking society, this guy and Larry Murphy should never see the light of day again. Either put them down or keep them in a cage for their life, but do not release them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    That girl will never recover from it, I doubt therell be an hour in the entire rest of her lifetime where she doesnt think about what happened to her, and hes going to be out before hes even middle aged to do it to some other girl again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Given the severe personality disorder attested to this man, I feel there should be provision made to keep him in a secure mental health institution after he served his time.

    I understand he can't be kept in prison, but I don't think he should be allowed into the general public again, either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    The concept of concurrent sentencing, especially in cases like this, is ridiculous. Not be be flippant about it, but it is like "two crimes for the price of one".

    This guy really has lost the right to his freedom for the rest of his life, maybe not legally but certainly from a moral and justice viewpoint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,837 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    This guy has psychological issues. He claims to have cut the paws off pets.

    His mother had mental health issues and he was taken into care at age 4. Then in his teens he had to be put into a refuge for offending youths.

    This guy didn't get a good start in life but even if he did he would likely be a danger. He said he stopped having feelings for people aged 10. Damaged or became damaged - a bit of both I guess.

    We are a very liberal society now where the individual's rights come before the good of society.

    I am sorry but rapists who commit random acts like this really need to be castrated. Another young innocent girl shouldn't suffer because this guy needs another chance. You have to protect the greater good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    The Judge said he had to take into account the tragic history of Eoin Berkeley and his mental health difficulties.

    I am sick and ****ing tired of reading that kind of bollocks.

    Lots of people have it tough and have mental disorders but don't go around raping, assaulting and committing acts of extreme violence.

    Throw away the key on this scumbag.
    If he is mentally unstable then section him and put him into a hospital for people with mental disorders and don't let the scumbag out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    I wonder where are all the crowds of people that protested on the streets when Paddy Jackson was found innocent?

    This guy was found guilty, Paddy Jackson wasn't. Rightly or wrongly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    When the doctor examining him, tried to carry out certain psychological tests, the judge said Berkeley became aggressive and agitated and threatened the doctor with physical harm and the judge said he was not optimistic about the prospects of rehabilitation.
    So what happens when he gets out?
    Same as what happened when Larry Murphy got out, he has served his time and is free to go where ever he wants. As much as most people don't like it but this is what will happen when he serves his time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    He presumably will be on a sex offenders register so the Gardai will know where he lives.

    I personally think people like him should be electronically tagged and be on a curfew for the rest of their lives.

    He is a danger to society so he has no rights as far as I am concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,913 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Scumbag needs to be ended! he should never be let out again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,020 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That poor girl was most unfortunate. A Dublin girl or Irish girl would have known instantly that Berkely was a scumbag and was trouble, just from his general demeanour, but she was in a foreign country, speaking in a foreign language and was from a small town in Spain.

    Clearly a very dangerous individual. He probably would be well capable of killing....perhaps there could have been an even worse outcome to this case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    At a minimum these types should be tagged for the rest of their lives.

    No way someone so disturbing should be free to walk among us.

    To be honest there are probably many more like him out there and one only has to look at the boardwalks in the city and they will understand the types that hang around.

    I don't believe that young woman should have been here on her own as she seemed way too trusting.

    Way too young to be off in another country and have no street smarts etc.

    Of course please don't get me wrong one should be able to do so but it's a crazy world.

    I do hope she moves on and recovers from that shocking ordeal.

    That guy should never have made it to court never mind prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Yes, she did seem very naive but she was from a small rural area so probably very sheltered.

    Most of the teenage spaniards that come tend to go around in groups but they would be younger than her.

    It must have been fairly obvious though that he was mentally unwell, his older brother rang the Gardai to get him committed but a doctor certified him sane. There is nothing the Gardai can do in these circumstances.

    He had also attacked two women in Ballymun, its not clear what happened to him after he did that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Just heard the Rape Crisis Centre on the radio. They welcome the sentence and said that it would send out a strong message! He'll be out in less than ten years, they really are completely off the wall.

    I think capital punishment is appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Corb_lund


    14 years? What a joke. Certain crimes are beyond reproach and permanently break any form of a societal contract. When this happens they should be removed from society permanently..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭decky1


    ESMITH29 wrote: »
    He should be set on fire and put out again daily over the course of his sentence.

    ah love this one.bang on the button.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,913 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Actually think a fitting sentence would be to get him extradited to a prison in Spain and then let the general population know what he did. I guarantee the lads over there would make sure he paid the price for what he did to this poor spanish girl!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Debtocracy


    When cases like these happen, it’s always a good time to find the sadist in your group. Given the opportunity to express their sadistic desires in a morally righteous way, the sadist will not be able to resist: “I hope he dies roaring”, “I hope other prisoner’s rape him”, “I’d set him on fire repeatedly” etc.

    Now the sadist is very unlikely to be a physical threat, usually won’t have much social status within his peers. - but be very wary of anyone that gains gratification from seeing or fantasising about others in distress.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Debtocracy wrote: »
    When cases like these happen, it’s always a good time to find the sadist in your group. Given the opportunity to express their sadistic desires in a morally righteous way, the sadist will not be able to resist: “I hope he dies roaring”, “I hope other prisoner’s rape him”, “I’d set him on fire repeatedly” etc.

    Now the sadist is very unlikely to be a physical threat, usually won’t have much social status within his peers. - but be very wary of anyone that gains gratification from seeing or fantasising about others in distress.

    You sound like a psychopath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Jameswhalley


    Debtocracy wrote: »
    When cases like these happen, it’s always a good time to find the sadist in your group. Given the opportunity to express their sadistic desires in a morally righteous way, the sadist will not be able to resist: “I hope he dies roaring”, “I hope other prisoner’s rape him”, “I’d set him on fire repeatedly” etc.

    Now the sadist is very unlikely to be a physical threat, usually won’t have much social status within his peers. - but be very wary of anyone that gains gratification from seeing or fantasising about others in distress.
    Paedophile bashing threads are the same

    Every dirtbag under the sun feels a notch above the paedophile so will chime in with the bashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    when he gets out he should be tagged for life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    "In mitigation, the judge said he had to take into account the tragic history of Eoin Berkeley and his mental health difficulties."

    Im sorry, when someone else has been affected by your crime then there should be no mitigating circumstances.

    Mitigating circumstances should be for **** like theft of a fully insured item etc.

    Zero mitigating circumstances for this guy. 14 years is a joke.
    Whoever thinks this sort of person will come out of prison after 14 years and wont re offend is kidding themselves.

    He probably wont even serve anywhere near 14 years and the judge only order 3 years of monitoring after release. He should be under a lifetime of monitoring.

    Yet again,a learned and hugely experienced Irish Judge,falls into line behind the establishment,simply because it's the path of least resistance.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/rapist-eoin-berkley-gets-14-years-jail-for-attack-on-spanish-student-last-year-37481690.html
    He imposed concurrent sentences of 14 years for each rape offence and said he was taking into consideration the threats to kill, sexual assaults and false imprisonment.

    Mr Justice White backdated the sentence to July 31, 2017 when Berkley went into custody and imposed a period of three years post release supervision. He stated he had to take into account Berkley's tragic history and his mental health difficulties and said reports handed into court made grim reading.

    I would fully expect a learned legal Professional,elevated to the status of a Judge,to do as Judge White did,and then to at least be honest,and see to it that the convicted individual remains incarcerated for life.

    Judge Whites sentence,significantly increases the probability that some other young girl,will suffer worse degradation,and perhaps death at the hands of this individual.

    All it takes is for ONE Judge,in the,by now,significant amount of similar cases passing through Irish Courts,to make a stand for the principle of JUSTICE,as opposed to taking the easy option of kow-towing to the Court of Appeal's precedents.

    As Peter Casey has shown with the Presedential Election,Irish people have had enough to this codology,and it is long past time that a Judge...any Judge,took their sentencing lead from basic humanity and true concern for the Law Abiding population,rather than fixating on what the remainder of the Law Library will make of it. :(


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    We put down dogs for biting people, even if it's entirely accidental and just a dog being a dog.

    This lad doesn't deserve to see freedom again. Entirely deliberate and just a psychopath being a psychopath.

    He is the walking embodiment of capital punishment (heck even eugenics).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭M.Cribben


    How soon could he be released? 1/3 off 14 years if he behaves himself in jail = between 9 and 10 years imprisonment. Could be out before he's 35. He's lived most of his life in foster homes, institutions, and homelessness. Jail isn't exactly going to scare or rehabilitate him. Then what happens after his 3 years supervision?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,452 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    The poor young girl it's horrendous for her . And he should have got more time for the trauma he caused her father . Imagine hearing your daughter on the phone fleeing for her life and he is in Spain
    My heart goes out to her and her family and this guy will do this again if he is released .


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