Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

Henry WW · 30-10-2018 07:13PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Hi Henry.

My attempted conversion was yesterday, not today.

My point still stands though - what happened with today’s conversion? Have the number of members in team mafia or team FBI changed or do we have someone else we add to the village core. Be useful to know when it comes to working out parity numbers.

(Obviously if there is a valid reason for the other person not coming forward then don’t)

Oisin WW · 30-10-2018 07:14PM

Liam WW wrote: »

I have been active today Oisin, couple of posts in this thread and plenty in the COP thread, just trying to learn the dynamics of the game... Soaking it all in!

Ok, what COP thread are you posting in today?? Cause you made none in the COP game thread on Sunday, so you can't be talking about that. Be it wolf or village, you shouldn't really be revealing that on thread here. You'll either give away your Roled Villager or Wolf status in that case..

Sorry Liam, but that's just too many mistakes from you in the last 20 or so hours for my own liking.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:15PM

Henry WW wrote: »

My point still stands though - what happened with today’s conversion? Have the number of members in team mafia or team FBI changed or do we have someone else we add to the village core. Be useful to know when it comes to working out parity numbers.

(Obviously if there is a valid reason for the other person not coming forward then don’t)

I'd say it's likely that the FBI targeted a Soprano.

Oooh.. I wonder if they convert Chris would that affect the lovers dynamic?

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:16PM

Derry WW wrote: »

My rationale was simple. There were a few I suspected but I was most suspicious of Orla who claimed they voted No Lynch because of the existence of ITAs, with a logic that I personally disagreed with. She then didn't even show up for the ITA session.

The Des shot was at Gabriel's suggestion and I took it because Vernons shot didn't land and was unclear at the time whether more than one shot would count.

I know Gab is more or less confirmed, but you didnt have to shoot because he said so.

Des, while useless to the village right now, hasnt really warranted being killed by a shot without warning. Why did you shoot when Gab asked

Gabriel WW · 30-10-2018 07:17PM

Henry WW wrote: »

My point still stands though - what happened with today’s conversion? Have the number of members in team mafia or team FBI changed or do we have someone else we add to the village core. Be useful to know when it comes to working out parity numbers.

(Obviously if there is a valid reason for the other person not coming forward then don’t)

To be clear, I believe Oisin, but he's not part of the village core. We only have his word, to believe or not believe as we choose. There's nothing like a successful shoot during the ITAs to confirm him.

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:18PM

Derry WW wrote: »

I'd say it's likely that the FBI targeted a Soprano.

Oooh.. I wonder if they convert Chris would that affect the lovers dynamic?

I feel the lovers dynamic would potentially change there

Also if one of them voted for the other on a lynch would be my theory.

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:19PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

To be clear, I believe Oisin, but he's not part of the village core. We only have his word, to believe or not believe as we choose. There's nothing like a successful shoot during the ITAs to confirm him.

We take it at face value for now. He could be a fed bluffing, but until otherwise ill take it at face

Gabriel WW · 30-10-2018 07:19PM

Ewan WW wrote: »

I know Gab is more or less confirmed, but you didnt have to shoot because he said so.

Des, while useless to the village right now, hasnt really warranted being killed by a shot without warning. Why did you shoot when Gab asked

I know how people hate other people answering for other people, but I have to jump in here. I mentioned Des for ITA way before 1pm so he had time to defend himself if he'd chosen. I would have taken the shot myself, except I wanted to give another player a chance to join the core.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:19PM

Ewan WW wrote: »

I know Gab is more or less confirmed, but you didnt have to shoot because he said so.

Des, while useless to the village right now, hasnt really warranted being killed by a shot without warning. Why did you shoot when Gab asked

I didn't take it as my first shot and I did so because I figured if Des is a baddy and I kill him yay me. If he is a lazy/disinterested villager and I kill him well it's not great but it would confirm me as a good guy so I figured the benefit of an active villager somewhat confirmed (me) over an inactive villager made the shot worth it.

Liam WW · 30-10-2018 07:20PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Ok, what COP thread are you posting in today?? Cause you made none in the COP game thread on Sunday, so you can't be talking about that. Be it wolf or village, you shouldn't really be revealing that on thread here. You'll either give away your Roled Villager or Wolf status in that case..

Sorry Liam, but that's just too many mistakes from you in the last 20 or so hours for my own liking.

Another noob mistake I guess, not everything is in the rules etc... I just seem to be finding out everything the hard way

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:20PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

I know how people hate other people answering for other people, but I have to jump in here. I mentioned Des for ITA way before 1pm so he had time to defend himself if he'd chosen. I would have taken the shot myself, except I wanted to give another player a chance to join the core.

Thats fair for your POV, i suppose a confirmed villager is better than an absent one.

Barbara WW · 30-10-2018 07:23PM

Hey ho everyone,

Going to be on a bit more this evening. Had a very busy day so only getting back into things now.

I've only read over things very quickly. Something that concerns me is that there's a double player account, so while it may be genuine, I'm a little weary of the Ewan/Fiona "argument". Again, could be genuine, but speed reading, it could also be very scripted.

That's all I've got from a speed read though.

Oisin WW · 30-10-2018 07:26PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

To be clear, I believe Oisin, but he's not part of the village core. We only have his word, to believe or not believe as we choose. There's nothing like a successful shoot during the ITAs to confirm him.

Correct. And it should also be remembered - FBI can't turn Tony.

So me being released from WP means I'm either village or Tony.

I'm not Tony, and if I was, I wouldn't have mentioned a thing about WP earlier.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:29PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Correct. And it should also be remembered - FBI can't turn Tony.

So me being released from WP means I'm either village or Tony.

I'm not Tony, and if I was, I wouldn't have mentioned a thing about WP earlier.

Or you could be FBI and know that nobody was in WP yesterday morning OR that one of the dead ones was.

Am inclined to believe you for now but putting it out there

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:29PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Correct. And it should also be remembered - FBI can't turn Tony.

So me being released from WP means I'm either village or Tony.

I'm not Tony, and if I was, I wouldn't have mentioned a thing about WP earlier.

You could be Pussy...... lets say Pussy and the Fed are in a room but none the wiser about their identities.

Jake WW · 30-10-2018 07:33PM

Ewan WW wrote: »

You could be Pussy...... .

Did nobody else read this and laugh even a little bit?

Barbara WW · 30-10-2018 07:34PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Correct. And it should also be remembered - FBI can't turn Tony.

So me being released from WP means I'm either village or Tony.

I'm not Tony, and if I was, I wouldn't have mentioned a thing about WP earlier.

Am I reading wrong, or would you not be dead if you were Tony anyway?

if he is targeted for conversion he will not turn but die instead at this point.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:35PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Am I reading wrong, or would you not be dead if you were Tony anyway?

if he is targeted for conversion he will not turn but die instead at this point.

Only if Junior is dead already I think, otherwise he's just immune.

Holly WW · 30-10-2018 07:37PM

Sorry busy day today. Im voting Fiona for the Lynch tonight unless someone can change my mind.

Her whole posts scream defensive wolf.

And no Oisin I’m not the sniper. I wish. I’m a boring villager with no powers other than being able to sniff out wolves.

Sniff sniff Oisin.

Oisin WW · 30-10-2018 07:38PM

Liam WW wrote: »

Another noob mistake I guess, not everything is in the rules etc... I just seem to be finding out everything the hard way

Ok. Well there can be a steep learning curve, we all walked that path at one stage.

So what do we do now village? Liam revealed that he's posting in a backroom.

This is after registering a vote for Day 0 and 1 lynches without posting, and registering a shot in yesterday's ITA. There's been some clever moves in there, while Liam is playing dumb with his actual responses.

Sorry Liam, but this is the most wolfy shít going on in here at the moment IMO. I've seen plenty of new players before. No harm to you, but they didn't make this many mistakes. If you are genuinely making mistakes, well then I'm sorry and good luck with getting to know the game better, but right now I'm getting strong wolf vibes from you.

Oisin WW · 30-10-2018 07:42PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Am I reading wrong, or would you not be dead if you were Tony anyway?

if he is targeted for conversion he will not turn but die instead at this point.

No, it was I who was reading it wrong. Yep, if I'm Tony and they attempted to convert me, I would be dead.

Barbara WW · 30-10-2018 07:44PM

Fiona WW wrote: »

And why on earth would I not vote Frank? I thought he was a wolf, in fact, I was the second voter and not a bandwagoner. I went with my gut.

Hey Fiona, my question is why? Why did you think Frank was a wolf?

Fair enough if you voted him early. Just curious why when you saw the wagon was forming for a reason you knew wasn't true, why you still voted for him.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:44PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Ok. Well there can be a steep learning curve, we all walked that path at one stage.

So what do we do now village? Liam revealed that he's posting in a backroom.

This is after registering a vote for Day 0 and 1 lynches without posting, and registering a shot in yesterday's ITA. There's been some clever moves in there, while Liam is playing dumb with his actual responses.

Sorry Liam, but this is the most wolfy shít going on in here at the moment IMO. I've seen plenty of new players before. No harm to you, but they didn't make this many mistakes. If you are genuinely making mistakes, well then I'm sorry and good luck with getting to know the game better, but right now I'm getting strong wolf vibes from you.

I'll be honest. I hadn't a notion what was going on when I started. The major thing that worries me is someone drawing attention to the fact that he may have slipped and revealed a backroom. I don't even like typing that but seeing as it's been mentioned twice already it's hard to ignore. I feel like a noob would've asked advice on how to reply to questioning which suggests He could be alone which a wolf wouldn't be

I don't know how to feel about this at all.

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:46PM

If its a noob, its unfortunate.

I say give him a pass and let the seer cheek him.

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:47PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

Ok. Well there can be a steep learning curve, we all walked that path at one stage.

So what do we do now village? Liam revealed that he's posting in a backroom.

This is after registering a vote for Day 0 and 1 lynches without posting, and registering a shot in yesterday's ITA. There's been some clever moves in there, while Liam is playing dumb with his actual responses.

Sorry Liam, but this is the most wolfy shít going on in here at the moment IMO. I've seen plenty of new players before. No harm to you, but they didn't make this many mistakes. If you are genuinely making mistakes, well then I'm sorry and good luck with getting to know the game better, but right now I'm getting strong wolf vibes from you.

Sorry...are you suggesting that the 'slips' are being faked? To what end?

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:47PM

Also are we doing FFAs or no?

Ewan WW · 30-10-2018 07:48PM

Derry WW wrote: »

Sorry...are you suggesting that the 'slips' are being faked? To what end?

I read that as his slip was accidental and his noob claim is fake

Derry WW · 30-10-2018 07:50PM

Ewan WW wrote: »

I read that as his slip was accidental and his noob claim is fake

Ok that would make sense but that slip is pretty monumental for an experienced player and the noob claim came well before it happened.

I think the seer peek suggestion is probably the best option.

Henry WW · 30-10-2018 07:52PM

Oisin WW wrote: »

No, it was I who was reading it wrong. Yep, if I'm Tony and they attempted to convert me, I would be dead.

No as Derry said Tony would only die if Junior was already dead which he isn’t as it hasn’t been announced on thread

Oisin WW · 30-10-2018 07:56PM

Derry WW wrote: »

Sorry...are you suggesting that the 'slips' are being faked? To what end?

This is hard. I'm torn between going after a potential wolf, and taking it easy on a new player.

I'm suggesting that Liam's actions (votes) imply that he's more clever than his words (posts) protest..

Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

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