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Transfer Asus Rog C20 components to new build

  • 29-10-2018 12:10AM
    #1
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭


    I am having problems with my Rog C20 (won't boot) and, while I may be able to get someone to fix it, it's occurring to me that I would like an easier pc to maintain, and the dual 230w+180w thing is all very messy.

    (thread on problem here = https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057922398)

    For this thread though, I'd appreciate if anyone could advise on a reputable pc builder (I've seen a couple on adverts.ie) that could move the main components to a new build (perhaps mid size case) as they are still good components - Core i7-7700, 2TB + 512GB SSD, 16GB ram (I think the ram is laptop), GeForce GTX 1080. I'm happy enough upgrading a component but not starting from scratch.

    (and also, any ideas on what cost might be)

    Thanks.


Comments

  • #2
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Not sure that can really be done, it's a non-standard array of parts, as well as using laptop RAM rather than desktop ram. The only thing you could transfer would be the CPU, GPU and HDD - you'd need a new motherboard, cooler, RAM, case, power supply.

    Did you buy it new? How old is it? I would imagine it would have a several year warranty - did you buy it from an Irish retailer? Regardless of a 2/3 year warranty you'd likely get satisfaction in the Small Claims Court given the cost of the unit.


  • #3
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Thanks TerrorFirmer.

    It's just gone over 1 year and Asus said out of warranty of 1 year. It was from laptopsdirect as a refurb. Either way, I've taken it apart now so I don't think there is any case for chasing extra warranty.

    So you're correct, I'm really talking about getting a case (mid-tower so any recommendations appreciated that would quietly hold a 1080) motherboard (ditto), cooler, RAM, power supply.

    Can you get cases that are already 'built' i.e. with those basic components already put together or is it a case of doing it from the beginning?

    I don't think I can go out and get a new pc and replace the parts, because it would be an expensive pc in the first instance if it was up to taking the 1080 I presume.

    Again, if there are any suggestions of pc builders that do home/local service.


  • #4
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,067 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    You'd be looking at an initial outlay of around €400 for parts

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor (Purchased For £0.00)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK LP 51.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£30.10 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty H270 Performance ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£73.48 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£122.68 @ CCL Computers)
    Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
    Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
    Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card (Purchased For £0.00)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR1080 ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.79 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £352.03
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-29 11:25 GMT+0000

    *edit*
    You should be able to find someone to buy your SO-DIMM RAM, too. So not much money lost there.


  • #5
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Where are you based? There is definitely a few of us here on the forum would be happy to build it for you FOC if you supply the parts, or else have a look at it, as it is presently, to try and see what the issue is.

    However, given the non-standard nature of the PC, it's fairly limited as to what you can actually test for. It's most likely to be a faulty motherboard.

    Cost wise, a €50 case (something like Antec P7), €60 PSU, €60 motherboard, €30 cooler and €80 on an 8GB stick of RAM would see you through. Can spend more on any of the components if needed, but that's the lowest price to get you a decent build again.

    You could skimp and get a €30 case, €40 PSU, €10 cooler, etc, and it'd still be pretty OK, but hardly worth it for the basic savings.


  • #6
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Thanks TerrorFirmer.
    I'm in Terenure.
    Certainly would appreciate if someone wanted to have a quick look and see if it's something obvious, but as you say, it's probably the board.

    I agree, I wouldn't skimp on a decent case etc,


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  • #7
    minitrue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭minitrue


    I was going to say that an itx board would probably let you use the ram if it was so-dimms but are you sure they aren't full size dimms in there anyway?


  • #8
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    minitrue wrote: »
    I was going to say that an itx board would probably let you use the ram if it was so-dimms but are you sure they aren't full size dimms in there anyway?

    I've attached pic of ram, ssd (I think!) and overall pic :)


  • #9
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,067 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    minitrue wrote: »
    I was going to say that an itx board would probably let you use the ram if it was so-dimms but are you sure they aren't full size dimms in there anyway?

    Check the tear-down in OP's links; it's definitely SO-DIMM memory.

    The only (new) motherboards that have SO-DIMM & PCI-E support are £200 Q170 motherboards so not worth it.


  • #10
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,067 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    What kind of docking station is it?

    Anyway the Windows install should be on the SSD; since you're transferring to a new motherboard it should still be safe.


  • #11
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    and oldish source/target docking/cloning usb2.

    you're correct, windows on the ssd. I'm just trying to get my main files off the 2TB disk.


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  • #12
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    To get files off it? Yes.

    Otherwise, you can just use it in the new motherboard. The one K.O Kiki linked has dual M2 slots and is actually a really good board for the price too.


  • #13
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Hi all
    I've thought about all this and see 3 choices, only one of which you may think makes sense:

    1) Buy the parts (like Kiki suggestions earlier in this thread), get someone to help me build and add in my gt 1080, I7-7700 and 512 M2.
    Cost of parts maybe €400 and potential various risks of things going wrong with no comeback.

    2) Buy a new build (pc specialist etc) that's basic enough to allow me swap out basic components with my better gear.
    Price unknown, perhaps €700. Slightly less risk (in my eyes, you guys will probably laugh) as only adding components to an existing build.

    3) Purchase something similar to current build using PC Specialist, perhaps €1,200 for build example below, and sell current I7, ssd and gtx1080 on adverts without using them at all - for unknown price.

    Advice appreciated thanks!

    Case
    FRACTAL DEFINE R6 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700 (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache
    Motherboard
    ASUS® PRIME Z370-P II: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
    1st Hard Disk
    240GB ADATA SU650 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
    DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    ASUS 24x DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
    Power Cable
    1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Processor Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
    Extra Case Fans
    1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    ASUS PCE-AC88 AC3100 2100Mbps/5GHz, 1000Mbps/2.4GHz
    USB Options
    2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
    Operating System Language
    United Kingdom - English Language
    Windows Recovery Media
    Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
    Office Software
    FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
    Anti-Virus
    BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
    Browser
    Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
    Warranty
    3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
    Quantity
    1

    Price €1,195.00 including VAT and delivery


  • #14
    Xenoronin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    Since you've already braved taking the expensive PC apart, I would highly recommend going with option 1, but give it a go yourself. Building a PC is much easier than you'd think, just requires a bit of caution and following one of the many guides out there (just not The Verge's offering). The PC tower will be much larger and easier to work with than the small ROG C20 form factor.


  • #15
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Xenoronin wrote: »
    Since you've already braved taking the expensive PC apart, I would highly recommend going with option 1, but give it a go yourself. Building a PC is much easier than you'd think, just requires a bit of caution and following one of the many guides out there (just not The Verge's offering). The PC tower will be much larger and easier to work with than the small ROG C20 form factor.

    Appreciate the thoughts Zenoronin, and am tempted to do a self build to build on my learning, but I need an absolutely reliable home pc also, and quicker than a build will take me in terms of time. I might therefore purchase (option 2 or 3) and also build one with a cheap case, mobo etc for the experience.


  • #16
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,795 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Appreciate the thoughts Zenoronin, and am tempted to do a self build to build on my learning, but I need an absolutely reliable home pc also, and quicker than a build will take me in terms of time. I might therefore purchase (option 2 or 3) and also build one with a cheap case, mobo etc for the experience.

    Zenoronin is right, building a PC is about equivalent to putting together IKEA furniture, something you are well able to do yourself if you use instruction and follow cautiously!


  • #17
    Xenoronin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Appreciate the thoughts Zenoronin, and am tempted to do a self build to build on my learning, but I need an absolutely reliable home pc also, and quicker than a build will take me in terms of time. I might therefore purchase (option 2 or 3) and also build one with a cheap case, mobo etc for the experience.

    That's totally fair. PC Specialist is a good site, plenty of happy customers. Scan also sounds good, one of the guys here recently built with them. Do note that these PC Builders sometimes take about a week or two to ship due to backlogs. If you need a PC fast, look at pre-built PCs instead.


  • #18
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Xenoronin wrote: »
    That's totally fair. PC Specialist is a good site, plenty of happy customers. Scan also sounds good, one of the guys here recently built with them. Do note that these PC Builders sometimes take about a week or two to ship due to backlogs. If you need a PC fast, look at pre-built PCs instead.

    My price on PC Specialist didn't include a GPU, was thinking it seemed too good a deal!


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