Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 11:37AM

Quite noticeable reading the thread how the debate has coarsened.
Are people feeling braver now as a result of this vote?

Personally delighted to be part of those who elected Higgins.

Glad to see that Casey is at least divorcing himself from the traveller comments on the radio there.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:39AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quite noticeable reading the thread how the debate has coarsened.
Are people feeling braver now as a result of this vote?

Personally delighted to be part of those who elected Higgins.

Glad to see that Casey is at least divorcing himself from the traveller comments on the radio there.

Collins isn't changing though, which is very bad for the travellers.
Casey's comments were still not racist Francie.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 11:40AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quite noticeable reading the thread how the debate has coarsened.
Are people feeling braver now as a result of this vote?

Personally delighted to be part of those who elected Higgins.

Glad to see that Casey is at least divorcing himself from the traveller comments on the radio there.

He said nothing controversial in the first place

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 11:41AM

Casey’s traveller comments recap

He disagrees with them being recognized as a ethnic minority.

Says they avoid tax and that house prices drop when travelers move onto an area.

Says they camp on other ppl’s land.

Says the Tipperary situation with travelers demanding stables with their new houses is ridiculous.

Quote:

He cited an ongoing dispute in Tipperary where six new homes are lying empty in a €1.7m development because families living on an unauthorised site nearby are refusing to move in until they get stables for horses.

“I mean how ridiculous have we become as a society where they are turning down beautiful, four-bedroom houses because there’ll blackmailing the county council into giving them stables for their horses.

“I’m sorry, there’s something seriously wrong with society when we’re at that stage,” Mr Casey said.

Nothing overly controversial there.

omega man · 27-10-2018 11:42AM

normanoffside wrote: »

John Connors might leave the country over this
https://twitter.com/johnconnors1990/status/1056028432004452352

Some of the responses are priceless. Someone offered to drive him to the airport!
Righty called out on Gardaí and looting comments.

BoneIdol · 27-10-2018 11:42AM

tayto lover wrote: »

But we won. Collected a nice little sum from Paddy Power earlier.
I feel your pain though.

You bet on him to lose? Fair enough.

SafeSurfer · 27-10-2018 11:43AM

BoneIdol wrote: »

He lost. And to a communist no less.

A millionaire communist with multiple properties and pensions who sees his daughter feather bedded in the senate and his “special friend” given both a job and a room and board at the Áras. Allegedly.

nullzero · 27-10-2018 11:44AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Casey’s traveller comments recap

He disagrees with them being recognized as a ethnic minority.

Says they avoid tax and that house prices drop when travelers move onto an area.

Says they camp on other ppl’s land.

Says the Tipperary situation with travelers demanding stables with their new houses is ridiculous.

Quote:

He cited an ongoing dispute in Tipperary where six new homes are lying empty in a €1.7m development because families living on an unauthorised site nearby are refusing to move in until they get stables for horses.

“I mean how ridiculous have we become as a society where they are turning down beautiful, four-bedroom houses because there’ll blackmailing the county council into giving them stables for their horses.

“I’m sorry, there’s something seriously wrong with society when we’re at that stage,” Mr Casey said.

Nothing overly controversial there.

Nothing particularly controversial until you factor in the online thought police. "won't somebody please think of the traveller's?"

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 11:44AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Casey’s traveller comments recap

He disagrees with them being recognized as a ethnic minority.

Says they avoid tax and that house prices drop when travelers move onto an area.

Says they camp on other ppl’s land.

Says the Tipperary situation with travelers demanding stables with their new houses is ridiculous.

Quote:

He cited an ongoing dispute in Tipperary where six new homes are lying empty in a €1.7m development because families living on an unauthorised site nearby are refusing to move in until they get stables for horses.

“I mean how ridiculous have we become as a society where they are turning down beautiful, four-bedroom houses because there’ll blackmailing the county council into giving them stables for their horses.

“I’m sorry, there’s something seriously wrong with society when we’re at that stage,” Mr Casey said.

Nothing overly controversial there.

And he doesn't seem, (listening to him on the radio) to be prepared to stand over them either. He doesn't accept that it was those comments that got him elected.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:45AM

BoneIdol wrote: »

You bet on him to lose? Fair enough.

The Boards.ie doctor will see you in 3 hours, give you something for your pain.
He's very busy this morning for some reason.

BoneIdol · 27-10-2018 11:45AM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

A millionaire communist with multiple properties and pensions who sees his daughter feather bedded in the senate and his “special friend” given both a job and a room and board at the Áras. Allegedly.

Yeah. Casey must be raging.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 11:46AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And he doesn't seem, (listening to him on the radio) to be prepared to stand over them either. He doesn't accept that it was those comments that got him elected.

Go away Francie

Shelga · 27-10-2018 11:47AM

I just don’t get why people seem to love Michael D Higgins so much. They say he represents us well, but when you ask for examples, people don’t really know. His fawning over Castro and Chavez was repellant.

He’s also far too old, broke a promise to the electorate about being a one-term president, and should retire with dignity. I think it’s wrong that someone can be president for 14 years continuously. I look at Michael D and I don’t feel any particular affinity with him. I don’t think we have much in common. I don’t get the impression he understands the challenges facing people in their 20s and 30s in this country. I know this is not necessarily the role of our president, but for me it would help.

People say, if Michael D hadn’t run again, Peter Casey would now be our president. Doesn’t that say something about the drudgery of the other 4 candidates? They didn’t energise the electorate whatsoever. The whole campaign was boring and disappointing, no wonder people voted for Casey, they are utterly fed up with bland candidates who try to please everyone. Casey is the only one who sparked any interest in people.

retro:electro · 27-10-2018 11:48AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He doesn't accept that it was those comments that got him elected.

Probably because he wasn’t elected

Henry Ford III · 27-10-2018 11:48AM

Casey got 20% of the vote.

What message does that send to the government from the electorate? I think many are fed up with being milked and bled by taxes only to see handout after handout given to people who don't need or deserve them.

Effects · 27-10-2018 11:50AM

Shelga wrote: »

No wonder people voted for Casey, they are utterly fed up with bland candidates who try to please everyone. Casey is the only one who sparked any interest in people.

Yeah, says a lot about the candidates when a tax exile like Casey gets such a high vote.

Bannasidhe · 27-10-2018 11:51AM

bubblypop wrote: »

So the issue is the colour of someones skin?

Yes, but that's not racist because... *insert some spin here*

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:51AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Probably because he wasn’t elected

I didn't want to point that out.
He must be jaded.

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 11:51AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Probably because he wasn’t elected

Yep. Wrongly phrased. Not enough coffee yet.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:53AM

Effects wrote: »

Yeah, says a lot about the candidates when a tax exile like Casey gets such a high vote.

Do you think I should spend my winnings on a trip to Florida or New Zealand?

lalababa · 27-10-2018 11:54AM

Just waching RTE and fair play to Micheal Martin for acknowledging the 20% is due to unhappiness with certain communities way of life and the way the system treats them. Alot of others are either ignoring the 20% or tiptoeing around the reasons for it.

omega man · 27-10-2018 11:56AM

lalababa wrote: »

Just waching RTE and fair play to Micheal Martin for acknowledging the 20% is due to unhappiness with certain communities way of life and the way the system treats them. Alot of others are either ignoring the 20% or tiptoeing around the reasons for it.

Message has been heard. Job done.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:56AM

lalababa wrote: »

Just waching RTE and fair play to Micheal Martin for acknowledging the 20% is due to unhappiness with certain communities way of life and the way the system treats them. Alot of others are either ignoring the 20% or tiptoeing around the reasons for it.

RTE tried to blame Sinn Fein for Casey's vote earlier. Delicious.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:57AM

lalababa wrote: »

Just waching RTE and fair play to Micheal Martin for acknowledging the 20% is due to unhappiness with certain communities way of life and the way the system treats them. Alot of others are either ignoring the 20% or tiptoeing around the reasons for it.

That is great news. Now if Leo does the same ......

jace_da_face · 27-10-2018 11:57AM

A big thing to take away from these results is not only how well Casey did overall, but the locations where he did particularly well. 46% support in Rathkeale. That says something. The closer the proximity of travellers and settled folk, the greater the discourse.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:58AM

jace_da_face wrote: »

A big thing to take away from these results is not only how well Casey did overall, but the locations where he did particularly weXll. 46% support in Rathkeale. That says something. The closer the proximity of travellers and settled folk, the greater the discourse.

Rathskeale must be high on racists.

Calhoun · 27-10-2018 12:00PM

normanoffside wrote: »

John Connors might leave the country over this
https://twitter.com/johnconnors1990/status/1056028432004452352

It will be a better place when he leaves, this is the same guy who has shown allot of contempt for law and order in Ireland.

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 12:00PM

omega man wrote: »

Message has been heard. Job done.

It says what we kinda knew before, that 20% of 40-50% of the electorate have a problem with travellers.

That vote by the way would have little to no impact at a general election.

And by the looks of it, Casey is not prepared to campaign on those 'sentiments' as he doesn't believe it was those comments that got him the 20%

jace_da_face · 27-10-2018 12:01PM

lalababa wrote: »

Just waching RTE and fair play to Micheal Martin for acknowledging the 20% is due to unhappiness with certain communities way of life and the way the system treats them. Alot of others are either ignoring the 20% or tiptoeing around the reasons for it.

Political Correctness has won out yet again. Casey's support ought to bring out a well overdue conversation, but it will all get swept under the carpet again. Nothing to see here. We are all happy living next door to halting sites in this utopia.

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 12:01PM

jace_da_face wrote: »

A big thing to take away from these results is not only how well Casey did overall, but the locations where he did particularly well. 46% support in Rathkeale. That says something. The closer the proximity of travellers and settled folk, the greater the discourse.

Does it not show there is no discourse? The travelling community clearly didn't vote in Rathkeale.

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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