Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Deebles McBeebles · 24-10-2018 02:04PM

Have a look at her FB, latest thing is apparently trying to incite violence toward any settled person who doesn't bow at the shrine of the traveller god.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 02:49PM

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

Supposedly according to Bernard Sweeney "If anyone wants to know who Travellers are, our ethnicity, our nationality and how racism/classism/capitalism is one of the same and killing all in it's wake"

Martin Collins Pavee Point amongst others will be speaking on the day

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 24-10-2018 02:50PM

Travellers are not a different race to us, so why are we racist when we hate them?

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 02:55PM

Ayaan Lively Key wrote: »

Travellers are not a different race to us, so why are we racist when we hate them?

For the same reason that expressing any kind of misgivings about islamic terrorism or muslim rape gangs is racist - because those with reasons (financial or ideological) to prevent the truth being spoken have convinced idiots that feelings trump facts.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 02:56PM

They're just 'a vulnerable community' according to Simon Coveney

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 02:57PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They're just 'a vulnerable community' according to Simon Coveney

When you hear Simon speaking, you can see George Soros' lips moving.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 03:00PM

Gravelly wrote: »

When you hear Simon speaking, you can see George Soros' lips moving.

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now we finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Deebles McBeebles · 24-10-2018 03:00PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

The local Penneys should up security for the day.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 03:01PM

Careful now that train of thought even if based on fact will prob be seen as racist by some on here

Sure poor Margaret only stole the clothes for the kids like any mother would do

Boom_Bap · 24-10-2018 03:01PM

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now where finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Apparently he shops at Penneys. It has not yet been determined if it's the 'lift' variety of shopping.

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 03:03PM

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now where finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

I thought you were just "dipping in"?

Can't you come back in a week or so and pretend to be wise and all-knowing then?

super_furry · 24-10-2018 03:04PM

Gravelly wrote: »

I thought you were just "dipping in"?

Can't you come back in a week or so and pretend to be wise and all-knowing then?

Nah come on now, you know I'm a secret Soros agent secretly working online to undermine Penney's shareprice and to force every farmer in Ireland to give up their land to travellers, immigrants and for some reason vegans.

Soros. We're everywhere.

Ulysses Gaze · 24-10-2018 03:04PM

super_furry wrote: »

Fcuking A! In the last two pages, we've had Trump, we've had Obama, we even had a Napoleon and now we finally have the biggest right-wing, American wannabe, looper bogeyman of all, ladies and gentlemen, I give you.....GEORGE SOROS!

All in a thread about an Irish traveller women with a gaggle load of kids.

Even when it was the bears, we all knew it was Soros.

Geuze · 24-10-2018 03:05PM

Gravelly wrote: »

If I had a vote in America, I would have voted Trump. He has delivered a healthy economy and more jobs. Airy-fairy ideas of wrongthink against transexuals, comparisons to nazis because he doesn't play the PC game, and all that nonsense is fine for academics and the chattering classes to worry about, but for most people who have families to raise and bills to pay, that stuff is meaningless.

I agree with dismissing all the identity politics nonsense.

However, Trump is no friend of the worker.

He has pushed through large cuts in corporation tax and income tax that will not help the average worker.

No sign of him increasing the min wage, though.

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 24-10-2018 03:08PM

Gravelly wrote: »

For the same reason that expressing any kind of misgivings about islamic terrorism or muslim rape gangs is racist - because those with reasons (financial or ideological) to prevent the truth being spoken have convinced idiots that feelings trump facts.

That'd be sectarian though

tretorn · 24-10-2018 03:10PM

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin said the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child with a disability. We cant keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.
Its not right that people are bringing autistic children here for one reason only and thats to get extra resources free of charge. I wont get much if I go to Poland so what's in it for me to have so many Poles here, we need to make things less attractive.
How much is child benefit in Poland and can you spend your life on welfare there.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 03:12PM

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin daid the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child witha disability. We csnt keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.

This thread is just

eastwest · 24-10-2018 03:13PM

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin daid the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child witha disability. We csnt keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.

And you have data to back this up? The 'vast majority' bit?

tretorn · 24-10-2018 03:23PM

eastwest wrote: »

And you have data to back this up? The 'vast majority' bit?

I heard it from an SNA working in West Dublin. She is working in one of these schools so she knows the situation.
There are also loads of educate together schools in West Dublin and some dont have a single white child.
The local Gardai have advised white teenagers not to walk through some parks. There are gangs of black teenagers meeting up to fight each other so best not to go there.
We are going to have ghettoes like they have in Belgium and Paris but unlike Belgium and Paris our Gardai havent the manpower or the tough police skills to deal with whats coming down the road.
The poor white people living in these areas haveno one to speak up for them and their right to public space, the liberals will squeak racist and engage in online bullying helped by the media.
The rest of us will thank our lucky stars we dont live in these areas.

super_furry · 24-10-2018 03:28PM

tretorn wrote: »

There are also loads of educate together schools in West Dublin and some dont have a single white child.

Name one.

24-10-2018 03:29PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

She is going to be at a protest outside the Garden of Remembrance tomorrow between 1-2

Supposedly according to Bernard Sweeney "If anyone wants to know who Travellers are, our ethnicity, our nationality and how racism/classism/capitalism is one of the same and killing all in it's wake"

Martin Collins Pavee Point amongst others will be speaking on the day

They’re hoping Paul Murphy turns up.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-10-2018 03:37PM

tretorn wrote: »

Margsret may havr stashed some of the Penneys stuff where the sun dont shine so anyone grabbing her might catch themselves on a coathanger, gropers beware.
An SNA who works in West Dublin said the vast majority of people who get one on one SNAs are non national. The non national children are autistic and wont get services in Poland or Lothuania or Estonia for example. The parents hear through the grapevine that the Irish are a soft touch if you need one on one for a child with a disability. We cant keep going with this and we should be concentrating resources on Irish children.
Its not right that people are bringing autistic children here for one reason only and thats to get extra resources free of charge. I wont get much if I go to Poland so what's in it for me to have so many Poles here, we need to make things less attractive.
How much is child benefit in Poland and can you spend your life on welfare there.

I don’t begrudge any parent with a disabled child wanting the best for their child at all if they contribute to society

freshpopcorn · 24-10-2018 03:40PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

I don’t begrudge any parent with a disabled child wanting the best for their child at all if they contribute to society

To be honest if people didn't go robbing and behaved themselves and lived within there means if they were on social welfare. People would be a lot more accepting.

wexie · 24-10-2018 03:42PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

The Norway prison is not what it seems. They have a 16% recidivism because the people sent there are carefully selected and are the type of person who is likely to want to rehabilitate. If they were achieving those kind of stats with scumbags who didn't give a sh!te and just saw jail time as the cost of business, then I'd be impressed. They don't have a 16% recidivism rate across the board, which is what some people seem to think.

That may well be true, but even if it is having even a small prison like that here for carefully selected prisoners would still be a massive improvement over lumping the offenders who might be willing and capable of improving in with the hardened criminals no?

Of course Norway isn't perfect, nowhere is perfect cause everywhere has people and people **** up, some more than others admittedly.

But we shouldn't be aiming for perfect, we should start with aiming for better because the system we currently have is **** and clearly not working.

Not the policing, not the courts, not the legal system and not the prisons.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-10-2018 03:44PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

To be honest if people didn't go robbing and behaved themselves and lived within there means if they were on social welfare. People would be a lot more accepting.

Social welfare is too generous in this country. There’s no incentive to work. Government should focus on helping families who help themselves.

blanch152 · 24-10-2018 03:45PM

wexie wrote: »

That may well be true, but even if it is having even a small prison like that here for carefully selected prisoners would still be a massive improvement over lumping the offenders who might be willing and capable of improving in with the hardened criminals no?

Of course Norway isn't perfect, nowhere is perfect cause everywhere has people and people **** up, some more than others admittedly.

But we shouldn't be aiming for perfect, we should start with aiming for better because the system we currently have is **** and clearly not working.

Not the policing, not the courts, not the legal system and not the prisons.

What about our open prisons? With a carefully selected clientele, I am sure they too have a low level of re-offending. Is it the careful selection process for open prisons that ensures that low level or is it the rehabilitation element?

I am in the former camp rather than the latter.

wexie · 24-10-2018 03:45PM

tretorn wrote: »

I heard it from an SNA working in West Dublin.

She must be a really great and caring SNA if this is how she speaks about the children in her care....

:rolleyes:

Gravelly · 24-10-2018 03:48PM

super_furry wrote: »

Nah come on now, you know I'm a secret Soros agent secretly working online to undermine Penney's shareprice and to force every farmer in Ireland to give up their land to travellers, immigrants and for some reason vegans.

Soros. We're everywhere.

And so witty too. I almost laughed.

wexie · 24-10-2018 03:51PM

blanch152 wrote: »

What about our open prisons? With a carefully selected clientele, I am sure they too have a low level of re-offending. Is it the careful selection process for open prisons that ensures that low level or is it the rehabilitation element?

I am in the former camp rather than the latter.

I don't know, I'd like to think a combination of both to be honest.

If it really is just the careful selection of the prisoners I'd have to question why they are there in the first place and would those places not be better put to use with some of the other ones out and about that could 'use rehabilitation'.

Look I'm not an expert, I've lots of opinions and read a fair bit.

My thoughts are (in short) that the current system is clearly not working* and it seems that nothing is being done other than moaning about the system not working. :mad:

(mind it seems to be working plenty well for the legal system itself)

I clearly have my own ideas about what would be a better system, and who knows, maybe they are wrong (although there seems to be plenty of evidence of them working in different countries) but at the end of the day I don't particularly care. I'd just like to see some evidence of something (anything) being done to improve things a little.

I have 3 young kids and if things keep going the way they are I dread thinking of them having to go through their teens here.

KrustyUCC · 24-10-2018 03:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They’re hoping Paul Murphy turns up.

Yeah interesting agenda for the protest. End Racism against Travellers

"against Peter Casey hate speech of Irish travellers

demanding traveller ethnicity be protected by introducing legislation to protect ethnic minorities

strong legislation would protect families and create peace on the island

legislation on hate crimes so the likes of Peter Casey can be taken to task and Ireland frees itself from right wing politics

Government needs to be challenged on statistics not in our favour

From one generation to the next Travellers have been met with violence, oppression, institutionalised racism

time to come together and address the issues that are killing us and we need to fight all forms of racism and hate"

Good man Bernard Sweeney

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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