Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

fritzelly · 21-10-2018 12:23AM

Effects wrote: »

A friend of mine used to defend people like this in court.
Some of them would complain it was hard to stay out of trouble with the money they get in handouts and no rent to pay.

Says it all really

LETHAL LADY · 21-10-2018 12:38AM

I worked in supermarkets in my early working days and the modus operandi for the special ethnic status group was to enter the store and fill trolleys to the top with groceries. When it came to paying they'd just walk straight out the door and hope they'd not get caught. Tbf if the place was busy they'd get away with it.

I went shopping in Pennys today with a voucher for €30. I left the shop with about ten items of clothing for my kids. I know it has been said already but she must have had a truckload of clothing.

fritzelly · 21-10-2018 01:06AM

Worst of it is, steal 300 euro, unrecoverable, get fined 100

Some judges in ireland should be fired as they've no sense

21-10-2018 01:12AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I worked in supermarkets in my early working days and the modus operandi for the special ethnic status group was to enter the store and fill trolleys to the top with groceries. When it came to paying they'd just walk straight out the door and hope they'd not get caught. Tbf if the place was busy they'd get away with it.

I went shopping in Pennys today with a voucher for €30. I left the shop with about ten items of clothing for my kids. I know it has been said already but she must have had a truckload of clothing.

It’s things like this that make me feel like we should have a justice system more like America. A 3 strike rule maximum. 39 convictions later still no prison its not wonder there’s cnuts on there with a set of brass bollox on them.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 01:49AM

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

It’s things like this that make me feel like we should have a justice system more like America. A 3 strike rule maximum. 39 convictions later still no prison its not wonder there’s cnuts on there with a set of brass bollox on them.

So rather than pay €50k a year in benefits you want to pay 90k to keep her in prison and then how much to look after the kids while she is away?
America has very high incarceration rates and also high crime rates their system does not lower crime but it does ensure the owners of private prisons are extremely wealthy from tax payers money.

21-10-2018 06:44AM

tuxy wrote: »

So rather than pay €50k a year in benefits you want to pay 90k to keep her in prison and then how much to look after the kids while she is away?
America has very high incarceration rates and also high crime rates their system does not lower crime but it does ensure the owners of private prisons are extremely wealthy from tax payers money.

Yeah, look at is a money issue rather than a fcuking criminal paying their dues.

ParkRunner · 21-10-2018 07:07AM

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty for those those depending on social support & would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, while attaching some sense of value to what they receive

NIMAN · 21-10-2018 07:09AM

ParkRunner wrote: »

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty for those those depending on social support & would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, while attaching some value to what they receive

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 07:10AM

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

Yeah, look at is a money issue rather than a fcuking criminal paying their dues.

So we should enable these people to be in a position to bankrupt the state?
Do you think the likes or Mrs. Cash give a **** about going to prison or any consequences to her actions?

21-10-2018 07:11AM

NIMAN wrote: »

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

when I’m reality your average career criminal or whatever you’d prefer to call it probably has more money than any other welfare recipient from stealing or selling drugs etc

ParkRunner · 21-10-2018 07:12AM

NIMAN wrote: »

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

At least the criminal would be going in with their eyes wide open, two strikes and you better stop or else your kids will suffer too

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-10-2018 07:17AM

tuxy wrote: »

So we should enable these people to be in a position to bankrupt the state?
Do you think the likes or Mrs. Cash give a **** about going to prison or any consequences to her actions?

So you think there should be no consequences for people breaking the law if it costs the state more money or they are mothers???

I think losing her kids might be one of the few things that would impact her. It would be a consequence of her actions.

The judge might as well gave reached into his pocket and paid the "fine" for her.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 07:18AM

ParkRunner wrote: »

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty

The penalty would be the encouragement to engage in even more criminality activity to fund their lifestyle; Since the seems to get some satisfaction for such illegal activity how is it a punishment?

I've sat in court and seen people out of prison for a day to sit another offence taken against them by the DPP, another 3 months added to a 6 months sentence while they smirk and make joke with their friends, it;st just a day out for them. The same as if you or I decided to book an overnight stay in hotel with a few mate an all inclusive package with food and board provided.
I was ignorant to the attitude at the time as prison sounded like a scary place to me but to many it's an option of an easy life, without a care in the world.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 07:22AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

So you think there should be no consequences for people breaking the law if it costs the state more money or they are mothers???

Of course there should be consequences but to the criminals involved prison is not considered a negative consequences. And unforgettably I have to admit I've no idea what would be an adequate consequence.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 07:25AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

I think losing her kids might be one of the few things that would impact her. It would be a consequence of her actions.

Who would we inflict these children on, they were already expelled from a charity summer camp back in July. Can you imagine the chaos they would cause if separated for their beloved mother?

21-10-2018 07:28AM

Neyite wrote: »

The last time I went into Pennys I spent 80 quid. The bag of stuff I got for that amount was MASSIVE.

How did she manage to carry €321 euros worth?

She brought the 7 kids to help.

21-10-2018 07:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

She brought the 7 kids to help.

You mean to teach them how to earn a living...

mikemac2 · 21-10-2018 07:44AM

In six months we’ll be discussing someone else

Between Mrs Cash, the Aussie in Apollo House and the sad case of Jonathan Corrie I hope the media do a little digging before selecting the next person for their front pages

Journalists doing investigations, not much of that anymore

The homeless charity CEO’s aren’t blameless either

Sacrolyte · 21-10-2018 08:42AM

topper75 wrote: »

I don't know how the guberment could do their jobs more 'right'.

Wow. Peter Casey is getting my vote.

JeffKenna · 21-10-2018 09:00AM

Seriously, anyone with 38 convictions should be in jail.

gmisk · 21-10-2018 09:02AM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Wow. Peter Casey is getting my vote.

Great, fair play, how is he planning on fixing this issue as president ?

21-10-2018 01:09PM

So, travellers want to maintain their heritage. How does that work?

100 years ago, it was normal for couples to have large families. Now 2 seems normal.
100 years ago, it was normal for mothers to stay at home and rear their children and care for the house. Now, many mothers work while paying someone else to care for their kids and housework is fitted in on days off.
100 years ago, it was normal for farmers to plough their land using a horsedrawn plough. Nowadays it’s done by tractor and multi bladed plough.
100 years ago, tinkers used horses to draw their caravans. Now they use vans or cars, while horses seem to be used exclusively for sulky racing.

Where does culture come in? When did weddings with huge dresses become their culture? Or the massive first communion dresses?

When did it become their culture to see nothing wrong with helping themselves to the property of others, mainly from the settled community?

IvySlayer · 21-10-2018 01:12PM

Someone who has 38 previous convictions is not fit to be a parent.

And these are the known ones.

omega man · 21-10-2018 01:28PM

gmisk wrote: »

Great, fair play, how is he planning on fixing this issue as president ?

He can’t. However he is opening up an overdue debate regarding our bloated entitlement culture. We need a grown up discussion where opinions aren’t countered with accusations of bitterness, hate or racisim. I believe he speaks for the silent majority.

Odelay · 21-10-2018 04:02PM

omega man wrote: »

He can’t. However he is opening up an overdue debate regarding our bloated entitlement culture. We need a grown up discussion where opinions aren’t countered with accusations of bitterness, hate or racisim. I believe he speaks for the silent majority.

A lot of people are saying they will vote for him. There isn't much he can do but it will highlight how aggrieved people feel about being milked while others do nothing to contribute.

Effects · 21-10-2018 05:43PM

JeffKenna wrote: »

Seriously, anyone with 38 convictions should be in jail.

37 of those are traffic convictions. And all received while getting the kids to school. So not really crimes as such.

Sure you can hear her on 98fm on Friday, where she didn't mention these as she thinks they don't count as crimes.

Effects · 21-10-2018 05:45PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Someone who has 38 previous convictions is not fit to be a parent.

And these are the known ones.

There are no undisclosed convictions.
I presume you are talking about crimes, of which there are undoubtedly many that went without prosecution.

punisher5112 · 21-10-2018 06:23PM

Effects wrote: »

37 of those are traffic convictions. And all received while getting the kids to school. So not really crimes as such.

Sure you can hear her on 98fm on Friday, where she didn't mention these as she thinks they don't count as crimes.

Will you ever cop onto yourself....

All getting kids to school you are having a laugh.

She was living in tallaght at the time.

If I have no insurance or nct I don't drive it's a simple as that.

end of the road · 21-10-2018 06:46PM

ParkRunner wrote: »

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty for those those depending on social support & would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, while attaching some sense of value to what they receive

it's unlikely that this would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, or attach some sense of value to what they receive, unfortunately.

NIMAN wrote: »

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

ultimately the mythical bleeding hearts would be right.

ParkRunner wrote: »

At least the criminal would be going in with their eyes wide open, two strikes and you better stop or else your kids will suffer too

and that's all that would happen, the kids would suffer. nobody else. i wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be a breach of human rights and international law, as i'd imagine it would technically constitute collective punishment.

gmisk wrote: »

Great, fair play, how is he planning on fixing this issue as president ?

well first of all he's going to.

ah no wait.

ThebitterLemon · 21-10-2018 07:14PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Will you ever cop onto yourself....

All getting kids to school you are having a laugh.

She was living in tallaght at the time.

If I have no insurance or nct I don't drive it's a simple as that.

Spot on, and where do you stop...?

“Sure your honor I’ve no tax or insurance and coz life’s so hard I’d a few drinks before getting in the car and driving the kids to school”!!

It’s always someone else’s fault, no personal responsibility, what are we becoming?

TbL

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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