Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

Addle wrote: »

Serious?! That would be hilarious.

I meant rumours from some fairly reliable sources, not that he would be a 'serious' (as in good) candidate.

I would not be happy if he was the next.
And I don't think a lot of the players would be either.

It's not a semi final this time. So really don't see it as a great fixture. One more game we can feck up in.

rosknight wrote: »

Someone having a laugh (me thinks) tells me that Co. Board are now talking to Paul Staunton.

HE might be the only fella left who hasnt turned it down yet

rossie1977 wrote: »

And then Mayo in castlebar where Roscommon haven't won since 86 and if they win that it's Galway in Galway.

Pretty much toughest championship draw they could have got outside swapping Leitrim for Sligo away in quarter final.

Tough draw alright but probably overdue given that Roscommon have been on the opposite side of the draw to Galway/Mayo for the previous 3 years.

I actually think the ros job is an attractive position, don't really understand the hard sell/lack of interest. We are a division one side with youth and a decent club scene at senior level at least. The likes of Curran and Carew no thanks. Is there no ambitious young managers we can chase what about the Corofin manager or even David Casey up in middle Leitrim currently?

Really enjoyed the county final.

While the (harsh) red card followed by the two quick goals really finished it off as a true contest, I thought Clann looked the more likely throughout. They just seemed that bit more hungry - which doesn't surprise me knowing the local rivalry between these two.

Ciaran Lennon showed again why he is rated so highly. He was excellent.

Donie put over some beauts and showed yet again he is a man for the big day.

Jamie Fahy created mayhem in the second half and Callinan was impressive when he came on - lovely cool finish for the third goal.

But the man I was most happy for was Cathal Shine. I thought he was outstanding throughout and he showed why he is so badly missed in the middle for the county. I would love to see him back in full health and playing for Roscommon again. We very badly need his physicality and all-round ability.

megadodge wrote: »

I have seen the big no. 12 Mark Daly for Brigids a few times this year and I think he's well worth a try at county level. Big physical lad who can play. I presume he's young, but whoever comes in could do worse than invite him in.

Senan had a great first half, but once Clann switched Fergal Lennon back on him and had Cathal Shine sweeping his threat was diminished a lot.

Surprise, surprise Garvan Dolan got sent off again. You could see it coming a mile off.

Anytime watch Brigids that lad usually get the line. Worse is that he is captain of the team.

Not long home from the County Final - thrilled with that win, great overall performance from Clann

Frankie Dolan and Shane Curran was two great players for St Brigids that won it all but are they the type of management that they need to bring Brigids forward especially with all the young players they have coming through now? Clann na nGael was excellent it was like watching the Clann of old when Tony McManus was playing. The Connacht semi final v the Galway champions should be a feisty affair, would that game be in Hyde Park?

Gael85 wrote: »

My bad. Was he captain one year?

Garvan was captain yesterday. led the team in the parade and contested the toss at start.

franglan wrote: »

I actually think the ros job is an attractive position, don't really understand the hard sell/lack of interest. We are a division one side with youth and a decent club scene at senior level at least. The likes of Curran and Carew no thanks. Is there no ambitious young managers we can chase what about the Corofin manager or even David Casey up in middle Leitrim currently?

These are Roscommon's results for the league and championship for the year

Roscommon 2-12 Meath 2-12
Tipperary 3-09 Roscommon 1-17
Roscommon 0-07 Down 0-12
Louth 0-12 Roscommon 1-21
Clare 2-12 Roscommon 2-19
Roscommon 0-15 Cavan 0-13
Roscommon 0-17 Cork 1-11
Roscommon 4-16 Cavan 4-12

Leitrim 0-10 Roscommon 0-24
Roscommon 2-6 Galway 0-16
Roscommon 2-22 Armagh 1-19
Tyrone 4-24 Roscommon 2-12
Roscommon 0-13 Donegal 0-20
Dublin 4-24 Roscommon 2-16

Saying that Roscommon are a Division 1 side is a bit disingenuous; they will be playing in Division 1 next year but will be strong favourites to be relegated back to Division 2.

Fixtures for next year are away to Mayo, Cavan and Galway and home games against Monaghan, Tyrone, Dublin and Kerry in the league. First championship game against Leitrim and then most likely have to beat both Mayo and Galway just to win Connacht.

I think the fact that they are in Division 1 next year makes them a good bit less attractive for an ambitious manger compared to if they were in Division 2.
If they were in Division 2 a new manager would have far more scope to fly under the radar a bit, get some wins under the belt and have a lot more opportunity to try things. In Division 1 the new manager will be under the gun from the get-go battling to avoid relegation. Maybe with a new manager they will do a Galway and challenge for the league title but Roscommon would look to be more in line with those teams who get relegated from Division 1 because they were that bit too good for Division 2 but look short of having enough to stay in Division 1.

The fact that the County Board is under serious money pressure is a massive negative for any potential manager. From the way McStay described it, it seemed like he was constantly dealing with money issues. No manager at any level wants that.

Boom__Boom wrote: »

These are Roscommon's results for the league and championship for the year

Roscommon 2-12 Meath 2-12
Tipperary 3-09 Roscommon 1-17
Roscommon 0-07 Down 0-12
Louth 0-12 Roscommon 1-21
Clare 2-12 Roscommon 2-19
Roscommon 0-15 Cavan 0-13
Roscommon 0-17 Cork 1-11
Roscommon 4-16 Cavan 4-12

Leitrim 0-10 Roscommon 0-24
Roscommon 2-6 Galway 0-16
Roscommon 2-22 Armagh 1-19
Tyrone 4-24 Roscommon 2-12
Roscommon 0-13 Donegal 0-20
Dublin 4-24 Roscommon 2-16

Saying that Roscommon are a Division 1 side is a bit disingenuous; they will be playing in Division 1 next year but will be strong favourites to be relegated back to Division 2.

Fixtures for next year are away to Mayo, Cavan and Galway and home games against Monaghan, Tyrone, Dublin and Kerry in the league. First championship game against Leitrim and then most likely have to beat both Mayo and Galway just to win Connacht.

I think the fact that they are in Division 1 next year makes them a good bit less attractive for an ambitious manger compared to if they were in Division 2.
If they were in Division 2 a new manager would have far more scope to fly under the radar a bit, get some wins under the belt and have a lot more opportunity to try things. In Division 1 the new manager will be under the gun from the get-go battling to avoid relegation. Maybe with a new manager they will do a Galway and challenge for the league title but Roscommon would look to be more in line with those teams who get relegated from Division 1 because they were that bit too good for Division 2 but look short of having enough to stay in Division 1.

The fact that the County Board is under serious money pressure is a massive negative for any potential manager. From the way McStay described it, it seemed like he was constantly dealing with money issues. No manager at any level wants that.

After over a decade away from Div one next year will be Roscommon's 3rd year in Div 1 in the last 4 years. Its when Roscommon was established Div 3 team that the position really wasn't attractive



The last time Roscommon was promoted to div 1 a joint management of McStay and O'Donnell was appointed and their Div 2 league results of 2015 under John Evans was less impressive than this year and they were odds on to be relegated back to Div 2 in 2016 but ended up reaching the Div one semi final and were one point off from beating Galway in the Connacht final in Salthill.


I can imagine that joint management team didn't come cheap either and whatever management team is appointed next probably won't cost as much. The objectives should be to win 3 of their 7 NFL games and to prepare to the best of their ability for the championship which should include better fitness and defending better as a team.

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Saying that Roscommon are a Division 1 side is a bit disingenuous; they will be playing in Division 1 next year but will be strong favourites to be relegated back to Division 2.

Fixtures for next year are away to Mayo, Cavan and Galway and home games against Monaghan, Tyrone, Dublin and Kerry in the league. First championship game against Leitrim and then most likely have to beat both Mayo and Galway just to win Connacht.

I think the fact that they are in Division 1 next year makes them a good bit less attractive for an ambitious manger compared to if they were in Division 2.
If they were in Division 2 a new manager would have far more scope to fly under the radar a bit, get some wins under the belt and have a lot more opportunity to try things. In Division 1 the new manager will be under the gun from the get-go battling to avoid relegation. Maybe with a new manager they will do a Galway and challenge for the league title but Roscommon would look to be more in line with those teams who get relegated from Division 1 because they were that bit too good for Division 2 but look short of having enough to stay in Division 1.

The fact that the County Board is under serious money pressure is a massive negative for any potential manager. From the way McStay described it, it seemed like he was constantly dealing with money issues. No manager at any level wants that.

Saying Roscommon are not a Division 1 side would be a lie!

I do see what you're saying, but it's coming from a negative mindset - like those (and there were plenty of them) who say it would be better for Roscommon to stay in Division 2! Which is complete nonsense.

If you want to improve you play better opposition on a regular basis. No point stagnating in Division 2 when you could be playing in Division 1. You know precisely where you stand by playing the best teams regularly and you improve because you have to!

Unfortunately, Roscommon is full of people with inferiority complexes, most of whom love to give their (negative) opinion on all things football related, but the truth is virtually none of these people have ever been involved in high level sport and haven't a clue what they're talking about. I know I'll take flak for that but having lived here most of my life and having been involved in more than one sport at high levels I feel I'm qualified to give that opinion.

You talk of Roscommon being favourites to be relegated and you are right. However, if you look at Galway this time 12 months ago, they were in the exact same position. And yet with the introduction of just one defensive coach, using virtually the exact same players, they went from being walloped by Roscommon in their own back yard and a very, very insipid performance against Kerry to a League Final, a Connacht title, beating Kerry in Croke Park for the first time in decades and an All-Ireland semi-final appearance. And I honestly don't think Galway have an outstanding panel of players that were just under-performing. They just bought into a system and as it worked their confidence grew. And that's the key! Confidence. Belief. Two things Roscommon are not renowned for.

I'm not talking pipe-dream stuff here, despite what readers of this will think. There are numerous examples of supposed 'weaker' teams in sport being taken over by the right person and completely changing the mindset. Just look at what Jim McGuinness did with Donegal. Don't tell me they were in a better spot than Roscommon are now when he took over. They weren't. They were actually in a significantly worse position.

As you correctly stated the finance issue is huge, which goes hand in hand with the fact that consistently, year in year out, Roscommon people have to look outside the county for employment. That makes it so much more difficult on players travelling huge distances, rest, etc. There are no simple solutions to that problem unfortunately.

All we need is the right man for the job. Who that is I really don't know, but it's a complex situation coming to a county like Roscommon, where REAL belief is always in short supply. There are plenty of quality players in Roscommon, they just need the right guidance.

RoscommonTom wrote: »

some awful nonsense on this place today, the players just arent there, they were a laughing stock in the super 8

Biggest load of nonsense I read on here today was that.