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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Second one was a motorist overtaking at fairy house - over a continuous white line, straight at me. Had to stay extreme left - almost in the ditch — to let him past. Car he was Overtaking slowed right down when he saw me to give overtaking tool more space. Bright strobe on the front of my bike obviously meant nothing.
    That was at 8.20am

    Some people really just don't give a flying f*** about the world outside of their own bubble. Once came round a corner in Ballycanew in Wexford to a car overtaking 4 others, only 50m from the right angle, blind bend. The car in front dropped anchor when it realised what was happening and I thank him to this day. I was in a car as well and dropped anchor as well but the speed of him, there was a good chance my two kids in the back would have been witnessing the death of both their parents. Car driver in the other car looked so shocked, I was concerned that it had happened and my mind was just protecting me from the shock. The overtaking car swung in between us but the space that was there, it was a tight enough space if you took your time at it, most spatially aware people would find it tough to make it through easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Danjamin1


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Some people really just don't give a flying f*** about the world outside of their own bubble. Once came round a corner in Ballycanew in Wexford to a car overtaking 4 others, only 50m from the right angle, blind bend. The car in front dropped anchor when it realised what was happening and I thank him to this day. I was in a car as well and dropped anchor as well but the speed of him, there was a good chance my two kids in the back would have been witnessing the death of both their parents. Car driver in the other car looked so shocked, I was concerned that it had happened and my mind was just protecting me from the shock. The overtaking car swung in between us but the space that was there, it was a tight enough space if you took your time at it, most spatially aware people would find it tough to make it through easily.

    Jesus that’s lethal, that bend is in the middle of the village too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    What setup are you using? Thats on the very wide end of the spectrum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Ahh, an unusual one that. Nice cams though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Have had a rough couple of days on the bike, mostly mornings and probably down to being darker and busier on the roads. Mostly just silly things but at a much higher frequency.

    Had a ‘patient’ driver sit behind me for a good bit this morning on Cyprus Grove road, I was happily keeping up with cars ahead so they’d nowhere to go anyway, but they then decided to overtake at the point where a bin truck was collecting on the opposite side, leaving maybe 20-25cm. Stuck in trafffic, I passed again seconds later and got a blast of the horn from them, followed by the passenger opening his window asking what my problem was (err...you’re the one beeping) and telling me to use the cycle track.

    It’s all just so unnecessarily impatient. Can they really not see that the 4 or 5 cars queuing at the roundabout are the ones holding them up, not the guy on the bike doing 40kmh in a 50kmh zone. Danger aside, this sort of stuff just puts such a dampener on commuting by bike.


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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weepsie wrote: »
    It's a Shimano CM1000. I've only just dug it back out after a long time in storage. Need to play around with it to get the aspect/angle right. Otherwise it's still a very neat little camera.

    Shame about those unwrapped cables though :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭p15574


    ED E wrote: »
    Ahh, an unusual one that. Nice cams though.

    I got a Chinese GoPro clone a while back and it’s great. The best part was it only cost less than €30. I think if everyone knew about these, cams would become more mainstream, as standard as a helmet. I know I certainly feel naked if I ever happen to cycle without the camera on (“just my luck, this’ll be the day”). If drivers knew that chances were that the cyclist he’s about to close-pass has a camera that will capture his license plate, he’s likely not to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    p15574 wrote: »
    I got a Chinese GoPro clone a while back and it’s great. The best part was it only cost less than €30. ....
    link pls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭hesker


    I had a guy blast the horn at me yesterday presumably to get me to hug the kerb so that he could squeeze past.

    I just looked around at him for a second. I think he thought the light on top of my helmet (not lit) was a cam because he suddenly became much more patient and waited for the road to widen before passing safely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Driving with a dear, kind, lovable friend. Coming up to a slip road I couldn't stop myself and burst out "Mind - cyclist" and she said "I didn't see that cyclist at all." He was a fine big lad. I saw him. Then she pulled up to wait for the lights to change - sitting diagonally across the cycle lane… Oh, God…


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Yesterday morning I got fixated on a car to my left in front coming out of a car park at castleknock village. Lost complete track of the lady behind me, who thought absolutely nothing of coming up along side me and left hooking me into the same car park . Closest left hook in ages. Those see sense rear lights obsviousky not being enough for some motorists. Time to ramp up to the 1 watt helmet strobe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,855 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    hesker wrote: »
    I had a guy blast the horn at me yesterday presumably to get me to hug the kerb so that he could squeeze past.

    I just looked around at him for a second. I think he thought the light on top of my helmet (not lit) was a cam because he suddenly became much more patient and waited for the road to widen before passing safely.
    Eye contact is a big help. Whether it is making them feel watched or just humanising the target, I'm not sure - but it works.

    The camera is a great idea too, though I'm not sure how many drivers actually see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭'68 Fastback


    The camera is a great idea too, though I'm not sure how many drivers actually see it.


    I had an odd run in a good while ago with a lady tailgaiting then beeping and slow passing me on a one way street. She had her window rolled down to tell me about the contra flow cycle lane that I couldn't get to because she was in the way. I caught her at the next red and asked her what I was supposed to do when there was a big fat BMW stuck up my ar$€? I took off. She took offense and wheel spun a close pass by me. Close enough for me to land a thump on her back window as she tore off. The plain clothes Garda behind me didn't like this part and swerved to a stop infront of me and jumped out screaming that he was a Garda and what the hell was I playing at. As he stormed up to me, to enhance the theatricality of his agression, I pointed to the camera on my helmet and asked if he'd like to review the footage? I still watch the clip of the expression on his face changing as the penny drops.



    Drivers may not see the camera at first but when they do it's totally worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    '68 wrote:
    I had an odd run in a good while ago with a lady tailgaiting then beeping and slow passing me on a one way street. She had her window rolled down to tell me about the contra flow cycle lane that I couldn't get to because she was in the way. I caught her at the next red and asked her what I was supposed to do when there was a big fat BMW stuck up my ar$€? I took off. She took offense and wheel spun a close pass by me. Close enough for me to land a thump on her back window as she tore off. The plain clothes Garda behind me didn't like this part and swerved to a stop infront of me and jumped out screaming that he was a Garda and what the hell was I playing at. As he stormed up to me, to enhance the theatricality of his agression, I pointed to the camera on my helmet and asked if he'd like to review the footage? I still watch the clip of the expression on his face changing as the penny drops.



    Drivers may not see the camera at first but when they do it's totally worth it.

    Ah c'mon, you can't tell us that and not post the video :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭uncommon_name


    Ah c'mon, you can't tell us that and not post the video :pac:

    Agreed, you have to post the video now....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Agreed, you have to post the video now....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Eye contact is a big help. Whether it is making them feel watched or just humanising the target, I'm not sure - but it works.

    The camera is a great idea too, though I'm not sure how many drivers actually see it.

    Oh, they see it all right. Amazing the difference in driver behaviour when I have a helmet sitting ludicrously on top of my helmet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    CramCycle wrote: »
    YOUTUBE

    Give him a mod instruction to post it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭'68 Fastback


    I'm in work atm but you're right, schoolboy error on my part :o



    Will post as soon as i figure it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭hesker


    As he stormed up to me, to enhance the theatricality of his agression, I pointed to the camera on my helmet and asked if he'd like to review the footage? I still watch the clip of the expression on his face changing as the penny dropped.

    Priceless.

    Amazing that he was outraged at your behaviour but thought nothing of hers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    hesker wrote: »
    Priceless.

    Amazing that he was outraged at your behaviour but thought nothing of hers.

    Poor driver behaviour is normalised. Cyclists are at fault for everything.

    Yes, I do have a persecution complex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    hesker wrote: »
    Priceless.

    Amazing that he was outraged at your behaviour but thought nothing of hers.


    Unfortunately not that amazing.

    Other, more evolved countries such as the Netherlands *GET* the concept of protecting their most vulnerable road users though good infrastructure and also through culture/mindset change. They *GET* That mindset change comes from the state, the legislation it puts in place, and the mindset it instills in its police force. They *GET* it requires some force/effort from the top to bring about mindset change in the generation population.

    We, as a society, simply don't GET the above the way others already have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭p15574


    Zulu wrote: »
    link pls?

    Sorry, I should have included the link. It was an Eken H9 cam on AliExpress. The exact product link from the original seller doesn't seem to be available but those in the search above are similar, and at similar prices. I chose the entry level one (ie with fewer attachments) to keep the value low for customs purposes. It does come with loads to start you off though, although I subsequently bought a "floaty bobber" (€1.85) for holiday swimming pool use (it's waterproof), and a chest/head/wrist harness etc (€8.13), and also a more permanent fixture for the bike (€5.28). I had felt like a bit of a dork with it so high on my helmet so changed to having it on the handlebars using attachements that came with it, but they had hand-screws so I wanted something less thievable that I could leave attached instead of having to remove every time I left the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    p15574 wrote: »
    Sorry, I should have included the link. It was an Eken H9 cam on AliExpress. The exact product link from the original seller doesn't seem to be available but those in the search above are similar, and at similar prices. I chose the entry level one (ie with fewer attachments) to keep the value low for customs purposes. It does come with loads to start you off though, although I subsequently bought a "floaty bobber" (€1.85) for holiday swimming pool use (it's waterproof), and a chest/head/wrist harness etc (€8.13), and also a more permanent fixture for the bike (€5.28). I had felt like a bit of a dork with it so high on my helmet so changed to having it on the handlebars using attachements that came with it, but they had hand-screws so I wanted something less thievable that I could leave attached instead of having to remove every time I left the bike.

    Not terrible for that money:



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    Not sure I'd rely on it for reg plates though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,855 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Oh, they see it all right. Amazing the difference in driver behaviour when I have a helmet sitting ludicrously on top of my helmet.
    Yeah, I guess they might notice that all right - to be sure, to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Budawanny


    Not sure if it’s ok to put actual incidents here or not but here goes.
    Walking up Camden street and came across the afters of a cyclist pedestrian
    Incident. Cyclist and some standers by were lifting a man of the road.
    Cyclist checks man is ok , man is ok so cycling day goes to leave. Man grabs bike to stop him leaving.cyclist is then surrounded by a mob of 4 people.
    Whiles I didn’t actually witness it it was clear that the pedestrian walked out from behind a car whiles jay walking without looking where he was going.
    Eventually most of the mob realizes that there was literally nothing he could have done to avoid the guy and left. Except for one eejit who’s argument was that the cyclist shouldn’t be cycling anywhere ever.
    It was amazing how every gob ****e assumed that the cyclist was at fault.
    Not sure what should have happened here though. Cyclist clearly not responsible for the accident , but should he have waited longer even though the pedestrian seemed fine? Or do you stay until a mob deems it ok ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭benjamin d


    Playing devil's advocate here it was probably a good idea to wait until everyone was sure that any damage or injuries are sorted or info shared, however I'm sure the braying mob saw a bike and immediately decided Hitler himself was on a murderous rampage through town on his two wheeled death machine. Presumably while the good citizen drivers blissfully parked arseways and ignored every traffic light on the street - the rules of the road are strictly optional for vehicles on Camden Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭TooObvious


    Budawanny wrote: »
    Whiles I didn’t actually witness it it was clear that the pedestrian walked out from behind a car whiles jay walking without looking where he was going.

    As already alluded elsewhere on this thread there's no such thing as jaywalking in Ireland. The pedestrian is at the top of the pecking order when it comes to vulnerable road users and the cyclist should have been able to stop on time - or if not then take the blame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    TooObvious wrote: »
    As already alluded elsewhere on this thread there's no such thing as jaywalking in Ireland. The pedestrian is at the top of the pecking order when it comes to vulnerable road users and the cyclist should have been able to stop on time - or if not then take the blame.

    That's not how it works.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Budawanny wrote: »
    Not sure if it’s ok to put actual incidents here or not but here goes.
    Walking up Camden street and came across the afters of a cyclist pedestrian
    Incident. Cyclist and some standers by were lifting a man of the road.
    Cyclist checks man is ok , man is ok so cycling day goes to leave. Man grabs bike to stop him leaving.cyclist is then surrounded by a mob of 4 people.
    Whiles I didn’t actually witness it it was clear that the pedestrian walked out from behind a car whiles jay walking without looking where he was going.
    Eventually most of the mob realizes that there was literally nothing he could have done to avoid the guy and left. Except for one eejit who’s argument was that the cyclist shouldn’t be cycling anywhere ever.
    It was amazing how every gob ****e assumed that the cyclist was at fault.
    Not sure what should have happened here though. Cyclist clearly not responsible for the accident , but should he have waited longer even though the pedestrian seemed fine? Or do you stay until a mob deems it ok ?

    the 'mob' was right to stop him if they were unsure if the pedestrian was injured.
    look at it from the opposite way, if a pedestrian knocked a cyclist off their bike would it be ok for the pedestrian to walk away? You'd hope others present would stop them too


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