Better Call Saul Spoilers

LionelNashe · 10-10-2018 08:35PM

Next season could conceivably overlap with the beginning of Walter's career. For example, Nacho could have to deal with Krazy 8's disappearance. On the other hand, something has to happen and a bit more time has to pass before "Domingo" can believably transition into Krazy 8.

10-10-2018 09:05PM

Had to capture these frames

https://imgur.com/a/C8NZKox

Gotta love the cinematography of BCS and BB

BandMember · 10-10-2018 09:06PM

I think that we're all agreed that Mike has been the star of this season and I would hope that Jonathan Banks picks up a pile of awards for his performances, excellent stuff.

If they were to extend the BB franchise further after BCS, I think a prequel of Mike's backstory from when he started out being a cop, then a corrupt cop and on to the BCS/BB era, this would probably be their best option. However, they would obviously have to recast the character with a younger actor and would that really work??? I have my doubts..... So, BCS will probably wrap things up permanently when it ends.

Eric Cartman · 10-10-2018 09:13PM

sightband wrote: »

I’ve found the Kim jimmy relationship to be totally unbelievable from the outset. They seem wholly unsuited to one another both on and off screen. Their onscreen interactions seem strained and extremely tedious at the same time. The script writing when they are together is horrible and I don’t know if its an intentional gag to highlight that they are not suited to one another but I could throw the remote at the tv every time they had that “Thai food tonight?” “Sushi tonight” etc. ongoing conversation in so many episodes. Their apartment scenes looked utterly miserable, dark, two of them moping about.

Surely as viewers we should feel some degree of sorrow for them both splitting, i don’t think many will. It’s horribly bleak watching.

I think like life with Skyler, maybe these 'important women' to vinces characters are supposed to represent boredom/the path most travelled/mundane existence, we're supposed to get excitement from the things these men do in the shadows of their partners.

NickNickleby · 10-10-2018 09:34PM

Before reading any of this weeks posts, I'm just going to say "I'm in shock".
Just finished watching this week's episode.

Never really thought they'd eliminate Werner. Although Mike was more than reluctant, he really didn't have a choice. At least he got to save Margrethe.

And Jimmy....oh,Jimmy. I always felt Jimmy was a flawed diamond, rather than an out and out knacker. Well, he played me for a fool. Got to say, discussing the episode this evening after watching it with my son, and I think Bob Odenkirk is a brilliant actor.

My God, Lalo is a walking powder keg. I wonder did he do away with the guy in the money transfer place? And, there's going to be video of both him and Mike in the place. Or perhaps this will just go away as an incident.
With Gus guessing who was on the phone to Werner (which probably tipped the scales against Werner), and Lalo's surveillance of Gus's operations, there's bound to be a few episodes out of that.

I think we know what's going to happen with Kim. After all, the Jimmy revealed this evening wasn't someone she could remain with.

Need to let it soak in now, followed by a re-watch later in the week. Seemed like there was so much to take in this week!

mloc123 · 10-10-2018 10:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Had to capture these frames

https://imgur.com/a/C8NZKox

Gotta love the cinematography of BCS and BB

I was waiting for the muzzle flash on the horizon shot, very satisfying

beardo81 · 10-10-2018 10:42PM

That shot was just so beautifully done, absolutely amazing looking.

Deleted User wrote: »

Had to capture these frames

https://imgur.com/a/C8NZKox

Gotta love the cinematography of BCS and BB

Icemancometh · 10-10-2018 11:02PM

beardo81 wrote: »

That shot was just so beautifully done, absolutely amazing looking.

I loved the whole scene. It played out with beautiful tension, even though we knew the outcome. BCS at its best.

astrofool · 10-10-2018 11:15PM

I'd imagine the security camera recording was taken away/destroyed.

Slydice · 11-10-2018 12:30AM

So, next season Lalo gets offed and enter the Tuco

evolving_doors · 11-10-2018 01:30AM

Grayditch wrote: »

I don't understand watching 4 seasons of it if you don't like it. I stopped watching Walking Dead and Preacher during their second seasons because they we really boring to me. Can't imagine going any further with it than that.

Ha!!! Some of us watched 6 seasons of Lost to the bitter end.

evolving_doors · 11-10-2018 01:35AM

Jimmy's 'anonymous' donation of Reading Library.... I think I know where that came from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqrJ4wGid4Y

Tabnabs · 11-10-2018 10:31AM

It makes more sense now why Mike just wanted to stare at the sunset.

Hector Savage · 11-10-2018 10:32AM

BandMember wrote: »

I think that we're all agreed that Mike has been the star of this season and I would hope that Jonathan Banks picks up a pile of awards for his performances, excellent stuff.

If they were to extend the BB franchise further after BCS, I think a prequel of Mike's backstory from when he started out being a cop, then a corrupt cop and on to the BCS/BB era, this would probably be their best option. However, they would obviously have to recast the character with a younger actor and would that really work??? I have my doubts..... So, BCS will probably wrap things up permanently when it ends.

I would hate to see him recast, I think another spin off would be pointless, it was brave doing BCS in the first place - what other interesting thing would there be ?
Gus backstory ? we have enough here to make it interesting, who cares about his young days in Chile ??

Coati story was enough

The last "season" (probably will be like BrBa 2 mini seasons) will be packed, there won't be much filler.

Pelvis · 11-10-2018 10:37AM

I'm not sure why BCS needs to wrap up anything yet. It took 4 seasons for him to become Saul Goodman, they could easily do another 4 as Saul Goodman, if they wanted to.

Boom_Bap · 11-10-2018 10:38AM

Pelvis wrote: »

I'm not sure why BCS needs to wrap up anything yet. It took 4 seasons for him to become Saul Goodman, they could easily do another 4 as Saul Goodman, if they wanted to.

I get the feeling there is going to be a show that picks up after Breaking Bad, maybe not Saul, but something.

stronglikebull · 11-10-2018 10:50AM

Akrasia wrote: »

So you didn't really watch it but think it was boring anyway

Can we have a separate thread for people who watch it BCS while also playing angry birds and watching conor mcgregor clips on youtube?

I thought it was boring, so stopped paying attention to it. Very different to what you said. Try opening your eyes and comprehending what was said, before you respond in an inaccurate manner in future.

Can we have another thread for people that only want a one way discussion, only see what they want to see, and make up things about people that disagree with them?

mloc123 · 11-10-2018 10:52AM

Was Werner the first "good guy" that Mike had to kill? I assume up to that point he had only ever killed people he felt deserved it?

Boom_Bap · 11-10-2018 10:53AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Was Werner the first "good guy" that Mike had to kill? I assume up to that point he had only ever killed people he felt deserved it?

I was thinking about that, was the last person he killed not the guy that killed his son?...and that was the first.
I seem to think that he goes out of his way to not kill?
I could be way off on that

bren2001 · 11-10-2018 11:00AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I was thinking about that, was the last person he killed not the guy that killed his son?...and that was the first.
I seem to think that he goes out of his way to not kill?
I could be way off on that

Sure he was trying to convince Gus to not kill him.

It seemed clear enough to Mike that he killed him because he knew he had too or he was gone as well. Presumably this is the turning point for his character.

rubadub · 11-10-2018 11:01AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Was Werner the first "good guy" that Mike had to kill? I assume up to that point he had only ever killed people he felt deserved it?

They only have the 2 cops and Werner listed on this page.

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_killings_by_main_characters

They even have Chuck down as a kill count of 1, himself.

stronglikebull wrote: »

I thought it was boring, so stopped paying attention to it. Very different to what you said.

sounds like much of a muchness to me.

The Black Oil · 11-10-2018 11:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely loved the shot of Mike shooting yer man

Yeah, felt a bit religious or something with the stars/something about wise men.

mloc123 · 11-10-2018 11:25AM

bren2001 wrote: »

Presumably this is the turning point for his character.

That is the way I took it... up to now he is a 'good guy' mainly bending the rules a little, but killing an innocent man is the turning point.

artvanderlay · 11-10-2018 11:37AM

If the Salamanca's notice that Mike was the guy who had Tuco put in jail, then he will have to get Stacy and his grand-kid out of town. They had already threatened Mike's family to get him to say the gun the cops found when Tuco was arrested was his, so they know about his family and where they live. He will be fully committed to Gus without them around, I'd imagine.

Grayditch · 11-10-2018 11:38AM

The great thing about Lalo is that unlike Victor and Tyrus (Gus' henchmen) and the Salamander Twins who all have that similar quiet dead stare intimidation thing, Lalo is to total opposite he's chatty, smiley and still 100 times more intimidating.

Hector Savage · 11-10-2018 12:09PM

Just noticed Gale's notebook is the same one Hank finds in BrBa

... such detail!!!

Standman · 11-10-2018 02:41PM

Pelvis wrote: »

I'm not sure why BCS needs to wrap up anything yet. It took 4 seasons for him to become Saul Goodman, they could easily do another 4 as Saul Goodman, if they wanted to.

Well, just going by the fact that they've almost finished the underground lab and Gale is in the picture with the same lab manual he had in Breaking Bad would make me think they're very close to the Breaking Bad timeline now, if not already in it. Squeezing another few seasons out of Saul's antics would be a bit much I think.

bren2001 · 11-10-2018 03:42PM

Pelvis wrote: »

I'm not sure why BCS needs to wrap up anything yet. It took 4 seasons for him to become Saul Goodman, they could easily do another 4 as Saul Goodman, if they wanted to.

The most interesting part of BCS is his transition from Jimmy to Saul. That's now done. He is Saul Goodman. Hence, the show is at the stage where doesn't have much gas left in the tank.

Of course, they could do four more seasons but you would expect viewership to drop off. The only way they could continue going would be to see what happens him post BB, even that doesn't have much distance to it. Alternatively, they could do another prequel of the past of Gus but that's unlikely.

rubadub · 11-10-2018 03:57PM

bren2001 wrote: »

The most interesting part of BCS is his transition from Jimmy to Saul. That's now done. He is Saul Goodman. Hence, the show is at the stage where doesn't have much gas left in the tank.

I remember wondering if the entire show was going to be a new scam each week. Like individual stories with maybe some ongoing story throughout, sort of like CSI or criminal minds do.

This is a trailer before it was out. I thought it was going to start out with him being a fully fledged dodgy lawyer from the get go, with new clients/characters nearly every week, maybe well known guest stars.

bren2001 wrote: »

New extended trailer out. Gives a first look at the tone of the show. I am looking forward to what they can do with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q4qzYrHVmI

Pelvis · 11-10-2018 04:00PM

bren2001 wrote: »

The most interesting part of BCS is his transition from Jimmy to Saul. That's now done. He is Saul Goodman. Hence, the show is at the stage where doesn't have much gas left in the tank.

Of course, they could do four more seasons but you would expect viewership to drop off. The only way they could continue going would be to see what happens him post BB, even that doesn't have much distance to it. Alternatively, they could do another prequel of the past of Gus but that's unlikely.

Of course that's the most interesting part, that's the whole point of the show. If the show shifts focus to his role as a criminal lawyer and his efforts to get them off, a la Huell, then that will become the most interesting part.

Personally I think it would work well, it would offer an opportunity to introduce a whole range of characters not related to the BB world.

Would also like to see a season of the post BB world, with him on the run or something. Maybe he tries to reconnect with Kim or something for help, if she's still around.

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