Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

Riona WW · 19-09-2018 09:38PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

How so Riona. Been a long day so apologies if I'm not following properly.

Clodagh said Mary had to choose between liking herself or teagan. Was that not the blackmail power? If not it was a lie to protect the real blackmail
Power.

So who killed clodagh with poison?

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:38PM

WerewolfGM wrote:

Irene can be sent away from the backroom. When sent way she will not be able to contact the villains but she still must act in their interest, when sent away she will be seen as Scotland yard officer to any peeks or deaths and also parity counts, she can be recalled into the backroom at any stage but this can only be done once in which she will then remain in the backroom as a villain. Recalling Irene into the backroom has a 24hr timer from request.

Can't contact the villains. That's a bit passive in terms of wolf power. I could see a hidden ability of being able to message villagers being available while she is afk.

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:39PM

Riona WW wrote:

Clodagh said Mary had to choose between liking herself or teagan. Was that not the blackmail power? If not it was a lie to protect the real blackmail Power.

True. Not sure exactly if it works that way each time though.

Derry WW · 19-09-2018 09:39PM

Conor WW wrote: »

Does anyone read my posts? What if Wini is Eurus?

Gabriel WW wrote: »

If wini is a wolf, I'm thinking it's eurus or irene.

If shes Eurus or Irene, a peek kills her, cause returning as an NRV exposes the story. The story falls apart with a seer peek IF shes lying.

I wouldn't put it past Eurus as a character to have a power that lets her send manipulative messages. It fits what we can see of her power.

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:39PM

Riona WW wrote:

So who killed clodagh with poison?

Guessing it's Jeff.

Eva WW · 19-09-2018 09:40PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Well for me nothing has changed. All that is confirmed again is that he can send messages. That's it.

His reasoning and choices for recipients is all over the place. He needs to be checked. Would he be immune to checking somehow? Is he banking on that and that's why he is so flippant?

This doesn't clear me, doesn't clear you, nor the other two. We still need to do that somehow!

What if you are still alive in 12 hours?

That will be 4 posters Wini did that to who came through it to tell the tale. Either she would be telling the truth and is village, or this would be a terrible wolf power/play. No?

Btw I'd also welcome a check of Wini at this point. It could potentially clear me, Orla, Riona, Wini and now Gabriel, up to 5 villagers.

If you surviving tomorrow still does nothing to push this on, well what else do we do but ask for her to be peeked? Lynch her?

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:40PM

Derry WW wrote:

If shes Eurus or Irene, a peek kills her, cause returning as an NRV exposes the story. The story falls apart with a seer peek IF shes lying.

If she comes back legit we have a 4 or 5 person core.

Riona WW · 19-09-2018 09:40PM

Conor WW wrote: »

Does anyone read my posts? What if Wini is Eurus?

I thought that but what’s this then

Eurus acts as a double parity count for the Werewolves of London

So she can send messages and count as two ?

Conor WW · 19-09-2018 09:41PM

Riona WW wrote: »

Clodagh said Mary had to choose between liking herself or teagan. Was that not the blackmail power? If not it was a lie to protect the real blackmail
Power.

So who killed clodagh with poison?

From OP:

Charles Augustus Magnussen – The Napoleon of blackmail
Charles is a very powerful individual and has the option to blackmail another player at a time of his choosing.

Jeff Hope - "It's not chance, Mr Holmes, it's chess. It's a game of chess."
Paid by Moriarty for his services, Jeff has a unique killing style

Assuming Charles blackmailed Mary Watson and Jeff killed John Watson

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:42PM

Eva WW wrote:

That will be 4 posters Wini did that to who came through it to tell the tale. Either she would be telling the truth and is village, or this would be a terrible wolf power/play. No?

Probably. Her being alive doesn't do anything per se. We still need to verify. Seer seems easiest way. Wouldn't have to kill anyone to find out. Priest would be only other alternative. Would have to kill Winnie to find out there.

Derry WW · 19-09-2018 09:42PM

Eva WW wrote: »

What if you are still alive in 12 hours?

That will be 4 posters Wini did that to who came through it to tell the tale. Either she would be telling the truth and is village, or this would be a terrible wolf power/play. No?

Btw I'd also welcome a check of Wini at this point. It could potentially clear me, Orla, Riona, Wini and now Gabriel, up to 5 villagers.

If you surviving tomorrow still does nothing to push this on, well what else do we do but ask for her to be peeked? Lynch her?

Uh....what? That's NOT what the power has been described as.
If Gabby is evil, then WINI dies. Right?

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:43PM

D4 reveals for one of those would be acceptable, Imo.

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:44PM

Derry WW wrote:

Uh....what? That's NOT what the power has been described as. If Gabby is evil, then WINI dies. Right?

That's right. I'm not, but that's how it's supposed to work if I was.

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:45PM

Derry WW wrote:

I wouldn't put it past Eurus as a character to have a power that lets her send manipulative messages. It fits what we can see of her power.

I think this fits best if Winnie isn't on the up and up.

Gabriel WW · 19-09-2018 09:48PM

I'm going to bed. Heads gone. Fun day folks.

Nigel WW · 19-09-2018 09:49PM

Derry WW wrote: »

Uh....what? That's NOT what the power has been described as.
If Gabby is evil, then WINI dies. Right?

We only have Wini's word for that though.

And Orla, Riona and Eva's word, but their word comes from Wini to start with.

Honestly, I'm confused as fúck. I'm heading to bed. I'll probably be dreaming of notes and tables and stuff. Night!

Riona WW · 19-09-2018 09:50PM

Riona WW wrote: »

Just throwing out a few strategies

Tomorrow Winnie sends the letter to the second name on the lynch list tonight.

If Sherlock is around he could peak all three of me Eva and Orla as a group. Assuming we all come up clear (and no wolf can get past his powers) then that could clear us and put the doubts to bed if he came out tomorrow after Jeff’s kill. With potentially a BG and jailer we could have a massive 6+ village core along with whoever else Sherlock knows about.

We could easily get another day out of Sherlock but of course the risk is the jailer is dead.

Sherlock can pm mods and ask if any wolf gets past his peaks. And ask if Mycroft shows up bad aswell cause that’s a waste of time if he does.

It’s a suggestion as a strategy.

Nice to see some of my strategies being considered ....

Derry WW · 19-09-2018 09:51PM

Someone got a note this morning, right? The note sending power defo reset with the lynch, NOT the munches, right?

Derry WW · 19-09-2018 09:51PM

Riona WW wrote: »

Nice to see some of my strategies being considered ....

I don't consider strategies from people who voted for me :mad:

Riona WW · 19-09-2018 09:53PM

Nigel WW wrote: »

We only have Wini's word for that though.

And Orla, Riona and Eva's word, but their word comes from Wini to start with.

Honestly, I'm confused as fúck. I'm heading to bed. I'll probably be dreaming of notes and tables and stuff. Night!

We know Winnie can send notes...

I can also confirm it was nice to get the note from what felt like a friend.... Until Winnie said it was effectively a suicide note cause she thought I was bad...

That’s the only facts I can confirm with confidence...

Eva WW · 19-09-2018 09:53PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Yeah. Surely other goodies would wanna come forward to be possibly confirmed in future. Any of the low posters under heat for example.

Holly, Steve, Isla, Nigel.

Should have snapped his hand off.

Yeah sure, but if we're going to look at these players, we also have to look at if they bought Wini's story in the first place. I don't think Isla did for example, so why should someone like that be jumping through hoops for Wini? Especially if some villagers would have believed it meant nothing anyway even if they did jump through those hoops.

It would have been a way for Liam or someone somewhat supportive of Wini to step up, yes, but not every player.

Conor WW wrote: »

Does anyone read my posts? What if Wini is Eurus?

I do, but don't worry Conor, I sometimes get the same feeling about my own posts, about the OP in games, about many things like that in WW.

I fear this is where my lack of Sherlock Holmes knowledge and/or knowledge of very complex roles comes back to bite me in the ass.

I know nothing about Eurus beyond what was in the OP - Something about controlling the mind and double count in a parity situation. I did read your last post on that, but didn't fully understand at the time.

Right, so mind control, how does tie in to what Wini has done or is doing?

Orla WW · 19-09-2018 09:57PM

Eva WW wrote: »

Right, so mind control, how does tie in to what Wini has done or is doing?

I don't see mind control giving a message sending ability tbh.

I think it more likely it may be, if Winnie is bad and not just cuckoo, as was mentioned above - Irene sending messages as an NRV.

So in that case she needs to be peeked and if she's NRV, or anything else than she claims (Janine), then she's a wolf.

Conor WW · 19-09-2018 09:59PM

Eva WW wrote: »

Yeah sure, but if we're going to look at these players, we also have to look at if they bought Wini's story in the first place. I don't think Isla did for example, so why should someone like that be jumping through hoops for Wini? Especially if some villagers would have believed it meant nothing anyway even if they did jump through those hoops.

It would have been a way for Liam or someone somewhat supportive of Wini to step up, yes, but not every player.

I do, but don't worry Conor, I sometimes get the same feeling about my own posts, about the OP in games, about many things like that in WW.

I fear this is where my lack of Sherlock Holmes knowledge and/or knowledge of very complex roles comes back to bite me in the ass.

I know nothing about Eurus beyond what was in the OP - Something about controlling the mind and double count in a parity situation. I did read your last post on that, but didn't fully understand at the time.

Right, so mind control, how does tie in to what Wini has done or is doing?

Eurus in Sherlock is able to manipulate people. If Wini is Eurus she knows who the goodies are and I assume who Irene is too. So she manipulates villagers into believing in her being good by sending them notes and saying that she'll die if they are wolves...when she doesn't die, they, knowing they are playing for team good, believe her.

Riona WW · 19-09-2018 10:00PM

Derry WW wrote: »

I don't consider strategies from people who voted for me :mad:

Ah Derry, sure doesn’t it show I was thinking of you ?

Eva WW · 19-09-2018 10:01PM

Derry WW wrote: »

Uh....what? That's NOT what the power has been described as.
If Gabby is evil, then WINI dies. Right?

Honestly, I've read your post here and reread my own, but I'm not sure what you mean here. Yes, that is the power if Wini has been true to us all along.

Derry WW wrote: »

Someone got a note this morning, right? The note sending power defo reset with the lynch, NOT the munches, right?

I got the PM this morning, timestamped 9:24.

Orla WW · 19-09-2018 10:05PM

Ok, I'm bushed. Night folks.

Derry WW · 19-09-2018 10:08PM

Eva WW wrote: »

Honestly, I've read your post here and reread my own, but I'm not sure what you mean here. Yes, that is the power if Wini has been true to us all along.

I got the PM this morning, timestamped 9:24.

Your post seemed to be suggesting that If gabby was bad and got the note, Gabby would die.

Anyway a power that would reset on lynch would actually be a point into the "Wini is telling the truth" column.

Eva WW · 19-09-2018 10:09PM

Conor WW wrote: »

Eurus in Sherlock is able to manipulate people. If Wini is Eurus she knows who the goodies are and I assume who Irene is too. So she manipulates villagers into believing in her being good by sending them notes and saying that she'll die if they are wolves...when she doesn't die, they, knowing they are playing for team good, believe her.

Thank you Conor. I have to say though, that seems awfully OP for one wolf to have on a team of apparently powered wolves. I would be more inclined to go with what Orla suggested above about Irene sending PMs as NRV if we're looking how Wini could be bad.

Not shooting down your theory, just that it seems really OP to me when described as that, on top of the parity thing Eurus has too.

Also...Orla proposes Wini could be just a bit...damaged in her delivery. (cuckoo :pac:) I hope this is the case, otherwise something is extremely fúcky for the village.

All these PMs from a wolf to players, if Wini is a wolf, something foul is afoot.

We need her peeked.

Eva WW · 19-09-2018 10:19PM

Derry WW wrote: »

Your post seemed to be suggesting that If gabby was bad and got the note, Gabby would die.

Anyway a power that would reset on lynch would actually be a point into the "Wini is telling the truth" column.

Oh right, no I definitely didn't mean to imply that.

Was just basically asking Gabriel at what point do we start taking Wini's claim seriously? if Gabriel gets 'cleared' and survives just like me, Orla and Riona, what then?

Conor WW · 19-09-2018 10:19PM

Eva WW wrote: »

Thank you Conor. I have to say though, that seems awfully OP for one wolf to have on a team of apparently powered wolves. I would be more inclined to go with what Orla suggested above about Irene sending PMs as NRV if we're looking how Wini could be bad.

Not shooting down your theory, just that it seems really OP to me when described as that, on top of the parity thing Eurus has too.

Also...Orla proposes Wini could be just a bit...damaged in her delivery. (cuckoo :pac:) I hope this is the case, otherwise something is extremely fúcky for the village.

All these PMs from a wolf to players, if Wini is a wolf, something foul is afoot.

We need her peeked.

I don't mind my theory being shot down, I just want people to consider all scenarios. I can actually see your point about the wolves being overpowered but this has been a crazy game.

Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

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