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So who's going to see the Pope?

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    #2702
    Star Bingo
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    A man must love his wife as he loves his own body.


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    #2703
    Taytoland
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    Embarrassing visit by the Pope. I have seen larger crowds in a field!


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    #2704
    Wheety
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    I got married in a registry office and only step foot inside a church for a wedding or funeral. The kids won't be raised catholic.

    But there are an awful lot of people who are no longer catholic but have their children baptised/confirmed because of schools.


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    #2705
    Dravokivich
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    That's most of the area. Why would't those spaces be full?

    It isnt. They were given tickets for designated areas. They've got a lot of the park setup for this. From what i saw driving through last week. They've areas in The sports pitches, chesterfield avenue and along chapelizod gates. That picture is only showing 1 third of the crowd area.


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    #2706
    Ilovethe bonesofyou
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    Has there been any figure for how many protest tickets were taken up?


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    #2707
    Discodog
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    It isnt. They were given tickets for designated areas. They've got a lot of the park setup for this. From what i saw driving through last week. They've areas in The sports pitches, centerfield avenue and along chapelizod gates. That picture is only showing 1 third of the crowd area.

    In that case how unchristian to not let the people fill the empty spaces


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    #2708
    road_high
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    A lot empty seats in the closer VIP areas too.


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    #2709
    harr
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    Wheety wrote: »
    I got married in a registry office and only step foot inside a church for a wedding or funeral. The kids won't be raised catholic.

    But there are an awful lot of people who are no longer catholic but have their children baptised/confirmed because of schools.
    This, I live in a rural location and only had the choice of one school for my kids and that school required a baptismal cert for the kids to attend.
    We are not a mass going family and I really don’t like the religious aspect of my child’s education and they don’t have a proper opt out option.


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    #2710
    Dravokivich
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Ach stop. You are looking at it all.

    Map_850x445_WEB4.jpg

    I saw it all being built up over the last week in those other areas I mentioned...

    All in asking, is are they really showing you everything. I'm not trying to skew the numbers.


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    #2711
    FrancieBrady
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    I saw it all being built up over the last week in those other areas I mentioned...

    All in asking, is are they really showing you everything. I'm not trying to skew the numbers.

    I think it is stretch to say there are people further away than some in the pic.

    highly unlikely.


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    #2712
    road_high
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    harr wrote: »
    This, I live in a rural location and only had the choice of one school for my kids and that school required a baptismal cert for the kids to attend.
    We are not a mass going family and I really don’t like the religious aspect of my child’s education and they don’t have a proper opt out option.

    It’s very out of sync with reality but the church won’t give up that stranglehold very easily.


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    #2713
    iguana
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    Ilovethe bonesofyou wrote: »
    Has there been any figure for how many protest tickets were taken up?

    Not so many to cause the low turnout. Parishes who made block bookings couldn't use up all the tickets they had. There were still 1000s of tickets being made available all through the week with no real take-up rate. I know some people who just decided last week to go when they were offered tickets and were told there was loads of places if they knew others who wanted to go along.


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    #2714
    harr
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    I saw it all being built up over the last week in those other areas I mentioned...

    All in asking, is are they really showing you everything. I'm not trying to skew the numbers.
    That area in picture is all the pens they were using, no more holding areas further out. I really don’t know why they can’t move people up to fill all pens.


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    #2715
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    I saw it all being built up over the last week in those other areas I mentioned...

    All in asking, is are they really showing you everything. I'm not trying to skew the numbers.

    They’re not going to leave people in the extremities if there’s plenty of space near the front.


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    #2716
    Hurrache
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Have they shown anywhere else around the park? Only about 1/3 of the space for attendees is by the cross.

    Second time you claimed that falsehood.


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    harr
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    iguana wrote: »
    Not so many to cause the low turnout. Parishes who made block bookings couldn't use up all the tickets they had. There were still 1000s of tickets being made available all through the week with no real take-up rate. I know some people who just decided last week to go when they were offered tickets and were told there was loads of places if they knew others who wanted to go along.
    My parish had 3 buses going initially and they had names to fill those quiet quick...that was down to two buses last week, in the end one full bus rolled out this morning.


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    #2718
    Thepoet85
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    Taytoland wrote: »
    Embarrassing visit by the Pope. I have seen larger crowds in a field!

    They are in a field. Well it's not a field really, but it has less rocks than most places.


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    #2719
    Tzardine
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    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie


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    #2720
    bobmalooka
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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DliCJICXsAITwLc.jpg

    Pic showing the entire area shows a poor turnout. You can only assume the poor weather caused a huge amount of people to stay at home


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    #2721
    road_high
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I think it is stretch to say there are people further away than some in the pic.

    highly unlikely.

    The overhead pics captured the lot. There aren’t any hidden hoardes we can’t see!


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    #2722
    road_high
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    Tzardine wrote: »
    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie

    That’s brutal if true


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    #2723
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    iguana wrote: »
    Not so many to cause the low turnout. Parishes who made block bookings couldn't use up all the tickets they had. There were still 1000s of tickets being made available all through the week with no real take-up rate. I know some people who just decided last week to go when they were offered tickets and were told there was loads of places if they knew others who wanted to go along.

    My folks had 6 tickets for Knock and could not offload the extra four. I offered two to my parents-in-law and they declined.


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    #2724
    jrkb
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    Tzardine wrote: »
    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie

    That's probably about right.


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    harr
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    Tzardine wrote: »
    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie
    Can you imagine the numbers the next time a pope pays a visit when most of this crowd are well dead and buried.


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    #2726
    lawred2
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Have they shown anywhere else around the park? Only about 1/3 of the space for attendees is by the cross.

    Yeah the missing 350000 is in those spaces


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    #2727
    Tzardine
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    road_high wrote: »
    That’s brutal if true

    In 79, over 1 million people turned up. About 35% of the whole country.

    If it is 130,000 today then thats 2.7%, and that includes everybody involved in the event.

    That says it all really. What would it be in another 40 years when the current group of older people die off. The Pope could probably not fill a Starbucks then.


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    #2728
    road_high
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    harr wrote: »
    Can you imagine the numbers the next time a pope pays a visit when most of this crowd are well dead and buried.

    I thought there was a lot of kids/young teens. But very lacking I’d say in the sat 15-45 age range!


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    #2729
    lawred2
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    Tzardine wrote: »
    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie

    Oh well


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    #2730
    harr
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    road_high wrote: »
    I thought there was a lot of kids/young teens. But very lacking I’d say in the sat 15-45 age range!
    Yes very few teenagers and younger ones being dragged along for a day out, seen a good few with babies as well...


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    #2731
    FrancieBrady
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    Tzardine wrote: »
    Turnout of 130,000 being claimed on thejournal.ie

    Obviously using the same method of calculation as me. :D


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