Harvey Weinstein and #MeToo/sexual misconduct scandals

Pelvis · 20-08-2018 10:55AM

Sad Professor wrote: »

Yep, that’s what I said. I'm not sure why you said it again or what your point is, but a 17 year old is not a “child actor” which is what I was responding to.

A 17 year old is a child, he is literally a child actor.

Sad Professor wrote: »

And you took my "lol" out of context. It was specifically in response to the excerpt from the NY Times that revealed that he is a millionaire who is now only earning 60k a year. This is all about money.

If you say so.

Frank O. Pinion · 20-08-2018 11:02AM

Pelvis wrote: »

A 17 year old is a child, he is literally a child actor.

Child
a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority

Age of consent is 17 in Ireland. It's all subjective, anyways.

20-08-2018 11:27AM

Obviously a case of the guy pulling a fast one. Anybody who would say otherwise has never been a 17 year old adolescent male. I probably would have sold my soul to sleep with her when I was 17....

pixelburp · 20-08-2018 11:29AM

inforfun wrote: »

It is not just female to male abuse, it is one of the loudest mouthpieces of #metoo to male abuse.

Oh the significance isn't lost on me, and doubtless the cries of hypocrisy will ring loud (no more than they usually do with any moral stance taken by Hollywood), but assuming the movement has any designs on credibility or self-awareness will jettison Argento with gusto. But nor should contrarians use it as some smoking gun either.

inforfun · 20-08-2018 11:36AM

As with so many of those #-movements, they all start nice and useful.
And then they are being hi-jacked by not so lovely people.

Edit:
Only recently that i saw Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown where she appears in the later seasons 2x and of course i knew what had happened with Bourdain so my mind wasnt 100% neutral already.
But i got a bad vibe of her in those episodes

And then you run into this:
https://twitter.com/AsiaArgento/status/234204779495161856

Sal Butamol · 20-08-2018 04:09PM

https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento/Toxic-Femininity.php

She's a nasty woman

HandsomeBob · 20-08-2018 04:39PM

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Child
a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority

Age of consent is 17 in Ireland. It's all subjective, anyways.

I think the thing to remember is that she knew him from a much earlier age. She hung around him for years. That's proper grooming and all sorts of wrong.

Juanito13 · 20-08-2018 04:44PM

A lot of feminists now saying we should wait for the allegations to be proven before judging Argento.
If only male accused were given the same opportunity to clear their name by the twitter mob.

Outlaw Pete · 20-08-2018 05:02PM

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Child
a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority

Age of consent is 17 in Ireland. It's all subjective, anyways.

I'd agree if the circumstances were they just met in a club or online or something, but she was seen as something of a parental figure by his family who allowed him to stay in touch with her and even dropped him to the hotel.

Most of the anger, or incredulity to be more precise, though, is because she has has been pontificating to society about how those in power in the film industry take advantage of impressionable young people starting out in it..... and that's just what she did, as she promised him roles in more of her films. Not perhaps as a transaction, necessarily, but as a means of seducing him for sure.

I didn't believe a word she said before anyway, given her subsequent decade long relationship with Harvey after she claims he forced himself upon her, so no real surprise for me that this has come out.

HandsomeBob · 21-08-2018 08:09PM

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/21/asia-argento-denies-sexual-assault-claims-anthony-bourdain

Have to say had she left her dead partner's name out of it, her statement wouldn't have been any less plausible. Bringing his name into it just comes across as clearly calculated when he cannot confirm or deny its veracity. Poor form. Still have the same open mind about the case, just can't understand why she would do this.

soiseztomabel · 21-08-2018 09:01PM

By all accounts she comes across as a garbage person

p to the e · 22-08-2018 10:22AM

HandsomeBob wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/21/asia-argento-denies-sexual-assault-claims-anthony-bourdain

Have to say had she left her dead partner's name out of it, her statement wouldn't have been any less plausible. Bringing his name into it just comes across as clearly calculated when he cannot confirm or deny its veracity. Poor form. Still have the same open mind about the case, just can't understand why she would do this.

Because she's a very very very odd fish

HandsomeBob · 22-08-2018 12:36PM

Gets worse......Daily Mail got their hands on alleged texts from her to a friend. Odd isn't the word.

Tony EH · 22-08-2018 01:37PM

This is what an assault looks like apparently.

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All sounds like a grift on behalf of Bennett and I don't believe, for a single second, that he was, in any way, traumatised.

But, to be honest, Argento fucking around with a "minor" is a fault all of her own. Plus, with her vocal outbursts during the #metoo "revolution"and subsequent limelighting because of it, it's kind of weird negative karma coming back at her.

Hollywood types...:rolleyes:

backspin. · 22-08-2018 01:39PM

There is no way she is guilty.. how do I know this?? Well, because she says so and we must automatically believe women. Case closed!!

HandsomeBob · 22-08-2018 03:09PM

I don't believe he was traumatised either and today he looks quite dodgy. Still.... can't get away from the fact she played this guy's mother when he was 12 years old. And she slept with him because she felt pressured (or how the story goes according to the Daily Mail)? Fcuk that.

PlaneSpeeking · 22-08-2018 03:13PM

HandsomeBob wrote: »

I don't believe he was traumatised either and today he looks quite dodgy. Still.... can't get away from the fact she played this guy's mother when he was 12 years old. And she slept with him because she felt pressured (or how the story goes according to the Daily Mail)? Fcuk that.

I don't believe for a second that Rose McGowan was traumatised - a leg up in her career and a pay off.

But you can't have one being okay and one not.

Ri_Nollaig · 23-08-2018 08:38AM

HandsomeBob wrote: »

I don't believe he was traumatised either and today he looks quite dodgy. Still.... can't get away from the fact she played this guy's mother when he was 12 years old. And she slept with him because she felt pressured (or how the story goes according to the Daily Mail)? Fcuk that.

Probably not, but if the roles were reversed would this be allowed for one second?
It should be equal rules for everyone.

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2018 02:52PM

Geoffrey Rush is the latest actor to be accused.

Sad Professor · 24-12-2018 10:36PM

Teaser trailer for the new season of House of Cards. Frank Underwood returns.

In the event that Hollywood doesn't take Spacey back, I guess he could embark on a career as a Youtube star. Speaking of which, do the yanks let you do Youtube videos from jail?

pixelburp · 24-12-2018 10:56PM

That was utterly surreal. Satire truly feels dead in this age when reality continues to outstrip fiction for ludicruousness. Hard to see what Spacey reckoned this video would serve.

Tony EH · 25-12-2018 12:04AM

I genuinely don't know what to make of that.

Sad Professor · 25-12-2018 12:05AM

As performance art and as a response to the claims (made specifically in relation to Spacey) about not separating the art from the artist it's pretty ingenious. I wonder if he wrote this himself or if someone convinced him to do it. That he released this on the same day that other Hollywood actors are posting videos of themselves cradling kittens or cooking turkeys is even more hilarious.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Netflix right now. After they pick their jaws up off the floor I assume they'll try and sue him for using the likeness of the character or something.

Venom · 25-12-2018 12:06AM

That was just mental and I'm totally at a loss what he thinks he will gain by posting this!

Deffo takes some balls, got to give him that.

SimonTemplar · 25-12-2018 12:46AM

Venom wrote: »

That was just mental and I'm totally at a loss what he thinks he will gain by posting this!

Deffo takes some balls, got to give him that.

I don't know if its balls or just delusion.

pixelburp · 19-06-2019 05:40PM

Looks like the talk of Max Landis being the latest named abuser has solidified a little: but The Daily Beast has an exposé based on the testimony of 8 women. Some of it sounds pretty abusive by all accounts. He had been sacked from a few productions a good while before this news struck, again making one wonder how many knew before it became to hot to handle:

https://news.avclub.com/max-landis-accused-of-sexual-physical-and-emotional-a-1835615378

El Duda · 20-06-2019 01:01PM

Seems like an oddball in this interview. Why does Hollywood seem to be a conveyor belt that consistently churns out these creeps?

pixelburp · 20-06-2019 02:08PM

Must be pretty red-faced of RLM to have had him over a couple of times.

The more pertinent question is: how known are these abuses that people just look the other way? Weinstein is the obvious example, but Josh Trank (who worked with Landis on Chronicle) came out after this exposé to say Landis was banned from the set during the shooting of Chronicle; so either Trank is just currying favour in a "I always knew he was a bad egg" sorta way, or else Landis was abusive on that set, making Trank & co. passively complicit.

Tony EH · 20-06-2019 04:01PM

I thought Max Landis was gay.

Arghus · 21-06-2019 10:31PM

El Duda wrote: »

Seems like an oddball in this interview. Why does Hollywood seem to be a conveyor belt that consistently churns out these creeps?

I hated to see him with the RLM guys, he always seemed like a creepy asshole.

Harvey Weinstein and #MeToo/sexual misconduct scandals

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