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Lotto to Rise to €6 - Are They Parasites?

  • 18-08-2018 10:06AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/cost-of-playing-national-lottery-to-rise-again-1.3599797

    Still €4 for 2 lines but if you want the 2 plus draws, they will increase from 50c each to €1 each, so €6 in total - 90% play the plus draws.

    Some people say they stopped winning when the new owners came in but I never won anything besides a couple of euro the odd time.

    I wonder at what price will people stop playing this racket but people are buying €20 scratch cards so I don't think it will make any difference.


    You can now participate in 27 draws a week:

    14 Daily Million - Daily at 2pm & 9pm
    2 Lotto - Wed & Sat
    2 Lotto Plus - Wed & Sat
    2 54321 - Wed & Sat
    2 Euromillions - Tues & Thur
    2 Irish Euromillions - Tues & Thur
    3 TellyBingo - Tues & Thur & Fri

    There are now 21 scratch cards at the following prices.
    1@€1, 3@€2, 7@€3, 6@€5, 3@€10, 1@€20

    There are so many scratch cards in shops that they have numbers on them and you ask the cashier by number, as there are too many cards for them to search through.

    There are 27 Instant Win Internet games:

    2@€1, 8@€2, 7@€3, 6@€5, 4@,€10



    And they have the cheek to call other Lotto providers "parasites"
    The lotto model is under attack from sites like Lottoland and Jackpot.com where players can play lotto draws both here and abroad without buying a ticket.

    They have been described as parasites by the National Lottery.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,793 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I live near the border and they force me to do the UK Lotto as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,358 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Tax on the stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Tax on the stupid.

    Its a tax on the poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    I live near the border and they force me to do the UK Lotto as well.

    how much is the uk lotto out of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Whatever about buying the odd ticket when there’s a big jackpot, those internet games they added are like candy to gambling addicts...and they know it... gamble aware me hole


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    If only there was a way not to pay for it


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Always great to see our government doing its utmost to facilitate the gambling industry. Out with the hope industry that is religion, in with the hope industry that is gambling. And despite the obvious social problems with problem gambling, all those health-warning free lottery ads on TV are allowed to peddle their fairy tales to eejits.

    Reality check:

    Odds of winning Euromillions: 1 in 140 million
    Odds of winning Lotto: 1 in 10.7 million
    Odds of being struck by lightning: 1 in 300 thousand

    And how many otherwise rational people in our scientific age think, deep down, that they could win the lottery but never think about their far greater likelihood of being struck by lightning? I'd wager every single person who buys a ticket otherwise they wouldn't buy a ticket. It's that common human self-deception that Ernest Becker mentions in his great Denial of Death about the soldier in the WWI trench feeling sorry for the soldier next to him who's going to die!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    If a boycott could be organised and put the sh!ts up them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Always great to see our government doing its utmost to facilitate the gambling industry. Out with the hope industry that is religion, in with the hope industry that is gambling. And despite the obvious social problems with problem gambling, all those health-warning free lottery ads on TV are allowed to peddle their fairy tales to eejits.

    Reality check:

    Odds of winning Euromillions: 1 in 140 million
    Odds of winning Lotto: 1 in 10.7 million
    Odds of being struck by lightning: 1 in 300 thousand

    And how many otherwise rational people in our scientific age think, deep down, that they could win the lottery but never think about their far greater likelihood of being struck by lightning? I'd wager every single person who buys a ticket otherwise they wouldn't buy a ticket. It's that common human self-deception that Ernest Becker mentions in his great Denial of Death about the soldier in the WWI trench feeling sorry for the soldier next to him who's going to die!

    The children’s film on RTE1 on a Saturday evening is sponsored by McDonalds and pauses 2/3 of the way through for the lotto draw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭raxy


    I went to see a psychic & she told me there was money in my future. I've been playing the lotto religiously ever since. It's been 3 years now but I'm sure I'm going to win any day now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭beachhead


    The UK Lotto is £2 per line on Wed or Sat They do not have a "plus" draw but you get a "raffle" number for an extra prize-no charge for that.The Euromillions ticket is £2.50 per line with an extra draw-no charge again.The pay out on the Euromillions is less per prize category(apart from the Jackpot) because the prize paid is based on a percentage of the total prize fund collected within the UK.For instance 2 numbers in Ireland will get you a prize of e4 or e5 whereas in the UK it could be £2.20 to £2.80 I have noticed that the Spanish Euromillions draw is more expensive than here with more prize categories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    The lotto is just a tax on the poor and the thick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    nobody is forced to do the lotto..... Not are all people who do the lotto either poor or stupid...,. It is entertainment, your are paying to enjoy the exciting of the potential of winning....
    The same look down your nose attitude can be applied to any form of betting.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    I think it's a far too long odds shot. I don't do it. Problem solved.

    OK, I throw the work syndicate 20 quid a month purely on the basis that i'd hang myself if they could all retire before me.


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The children’s film on RTE1 on a Saturday evening is sponsored by McDonalds and pauses 2/3 of the way through for the lotto draw!

    Next they'll have Ronald McDonald sponsoring a children's hospital...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    The Lotto has to be the biggest waste of time and money going. If people want to put a tenner down gambling, put it down on a dog race, or a match, or roulette, or bingo, or even stocks and shares.
    Basically everything has better odds than the Lotto, and is way more fun.

    It is the lowest form of gambling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,793 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    beachhead wrote: »
    The UK Lotto is £2 per line on Wed or Sat They do not have a "plus" draw but you get a "raffle" number for an extra prize-no charge for that.The Euromillions ticket is £2.50 per line with an extra draw-no charge again.The pay out on the Euromillions is less per prize category(apart from the Jackpot) because the prize paid is based on a percentage of the total prize fund collected within the UK.For instance 2 numbers in Ireland will get you a prize of e4 or e5 whereas in the UK it could be £2.20 to £2.80 I have noticed that the Spanish Euromillions draw is more expensive than here with more prize categories.

    59 numbers, so getting 6 is a lot more unlikely than out of 47.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It's why I refuse to do the euro millions until it's at least 100m


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    The stupidest people of all are the idiots who think their opinion of the lotto being a tax on the stupid is somehow edgy and perceptive and the kind of thing that will make people think about not playing.

    Pretty much everyone who plays the lotto knows it's a waste of money but there is always the chance it could happen and it provides a brief moment of fantasy in a persons life, you pay for the fantasy and escapism it provides not the chance of winning.

    Unfortunately the lotto is pretty much the only opportunity to get rich quick without doing any work that exists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭ouxbbkqtswdfaw


    Somebody has to do the lotto to fund those who have invested in it. The people who play the lotto will continue to do so, despite all logic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    It's just the hope it could be you. Started off £1 per week, now it's €12. I'm going to drop plus, their greed has saved me money.
    I wish a mass boycott could be arranged, no-one touch it for 6 months and see what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,793 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    It's just the hope it could be you. Started off £1 per week, now it's €12. I'm going to drop plus, their greed has saved me money.
    I wish a mass boycott could be arranged, no-one touch it for 6 months and see what happens.

    Increased taxes to fund the good causes losing out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25



    OK, I throw the work syndicate 20 quid a month purely on the basis that i'd hang myself if they could all retire before me.

    This is me aswell I’m just to afraid they will one day win it and I told them to fup off so I stump up the money just Incase


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Tax on the stupid.


    The 750+ people that have won in excess of a million might not feel so stupid though.. :rolleyes:


    The price increase to me just means that I'll drop from doing 3 lines to two and at that it's when I think of it. Used to do it religiously but now it's literally if I happen to be in a shop and think of it.

    The one that annoys me is the Euro Millions Ireland Only Raffle where 10 numbers win €5k each. I have yet to hear of anybody winning something on that.. I've known people who have won the lotto, 5 + 1s' etc, even the larger prizes in the Euro Millions outside the top prize but I have yet to hear of anyone winning anything on this raffle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The Lotto has to be the biggest waste of time and money going. If people want to put a tenner down gambling, put it down on a dog race, or a match, or roulette, or bingo, or even stocks and shares.
    Basically everything has better odds than the Lotto, and is way more fun.

    It is the lowest form of gambling.

    It's also the least amount of effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I love the euromillion. Either one will nothing at all, €2 or €4, or €1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Corb_lund


    I buy a euromillions ticket maybe once every 2 weeks. Don't see the harm. Half the price of the price of a pint. Low risks high odds.

    Not going to miss it and you never know!

    (Saying that I recently actually checked a ticket and had won €5 but it had expired?? :( )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭ouxbbkqtswdfaw


    Good causes, the PR part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    When the fun stops, stop.
    It stopped for me years ago. It's a racket and I believe it's rigged somehow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I'm in the work syndicate which is only €1 per week. It's enough to be paying. Since this new shower took over and increased the price and the number of balls, what we were winning has dropped like a stone. I think we're collectively afraid to leave just in case our numbers do come up.


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