Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 [Mod note 31-Aug-18]

Trigger · 09-08-2018 06:43AM

bassy wrote: »

There's some crap talked on this thread................you have to wonder what age are the posters.

I agree, especially when stuff like this is posted

bassy wrote:

Would ye ever fook off with the Shaw talk who gives a fook.ye have not much to talk about ye are as boring as the fantasy back pages of the daily papers.

The mod must be 12 years old.

Will I get a ban now...........make it life

09-08-2018 06:49AM

Trigger · 09-08-2018 07:12AM

10 hours to go

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Talisman · 09-08-2018 07:12AM

GSPfan wrote: »

I got talking to an Arsenal fan today and he said he expects Jose to be gone soon and I agreed it’s possible, but then he asked “Who replaces him?” to which I answered “Well that’s the problem.”

He then said “Arsene Wenger is available and I bet you he’d take it.” I was a bit gob smacked because I’m not sure that he’s wrong.

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

What's Antonio Conte at these days?

Seriously? Wenger and Conte are probably the two least adventurous managers.

If the club was to replace Mourinho, I would expect them to go for a manager who likes to play attacking football - Zidane is still on his holidays.

adox · 09-08-2018 07:15AM

beno619 wrote: »

I think we underachieved adox, the squad is capable of much better than it showed and we dropped some god awful points to some ****e teams. Those 9 points dropped before Xmas and City at OT in particular stand out.

What I meant is we overachieved in relation to our level of performance.
I think the team can play much better but even at that will struggle to finish second again this season.

Liam McPoyle · 09-08-2018 07:15AM

Backstreet Moyes · 09-08-2018 07:25AM

beno619 wrote: »

I think we underachieved adox, the squad is capable of much better than it showed and we dropped some god awful points to some ****e teams. Those 9 points dropped before Xmas and City at OT in particular stand out.

Was it not against weaker teams sitting deep and we did not have the quality from the flanks to make the difference.

We are going into this season with the same problem which is no quality from full backs and no right winger.

Sanchez and Fred will make a big difference i believe but I don't think much will change on regards the quality of football.

The fact is we don't have the players to play the football we want to see.

We overachieved last year, Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool had a better starting 11 and it looks it will be the same this year.

The ambition of this transfer window sets us up to struggle for a top 4 finish.

09-08-2018 07:27AM

beno619 wrote: »

I think we underachieved adox, the squad is capable of much better than it showed and we dropped some god awful points to some ****e teams. Those 9 points dropped before Xmas and City at OT in particular stand out.

Also the idea that the word defensive even comes up with regards to those games is an absolute joke. People just regurgitating what the media saying without any mention of the fact United dominated possession in most games.

The attacking play was directionless at times indeed but that doesn't make it defensive by any means. Certainly a lot more chances being created than under LVG.

Ninthlife · 09-08-2018 07:50AM

What I find odd is no team has been in for Toby Alderweirald, well not that anyone really knows anyway but for a top CB in the last 12 mths of his contract and publically said he wants away.

I will cry if i see BBC Breaking News: United lodge 80 millon bid for Maguire at 4.30 today or any time today really

beno619 · 09-08-2018 07:53AM

adox wrote: »

What I meant is we overachieved in relation to our level of performance.
I think the team can play much better but even at that will struggle to finish second again this season.

Yes similarly I probably should have said underperformed. It was always going to take improved player performances and a couple of signings to close that gap to city.

Toby and William won't make much of a difference if we're still in here complaining about Pogba, Martial & Sanchez game after game.

adox · 09-08-2018 08:01AM

Liam O wrote: »

Also the idea that the word defensive even comes up with regards to those games is an absolute joke. People just regurgitating what the media saying without any mention of the fact United dominated possession in most games.

The attacking play was directionless at times indeed but that doesn't make it defensive by any means. Certainly a lot more chances being created than under LVG.

Are you talking about my previous post to beno619??

adox · 09-08-2018 08:03AM

beno619 wrote: »

Yes similarly I probably should have said underperformed. It was always going to take improved player performances and a couple of signings to close that gap to city.

Toby and William won't make much of a difference if we're still in here complaining about Pogba, Martial & Sanchez game after game.

I agree mostly but am hopeful that We will see a huge improvement with Sanchez. He’s looked very sharp in pre season and more like the player we thought we’d signed.

Talisman · 09-08-2018 08:04AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

We overachieved last year, Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool had a better starting 11 and it looks it will be the same this year.

Crazy talk! Liverpool began last season without a recognised right back, a proven liability at left back (Moreno), a goalkeeper (Mignolet) and central defenders (Lovren,Klavan/Matip) that suffer from serious concentration lapses. Until Van Dijk was signed in January the team was a shambles defensively. Coutinho left in January but was never replaced.

They were much better after the January transfer window but beyond the starting 11 there was no depth to the squad. The media is all talk about Liverpool being title rivals to Man City but in all seriousness they have only added a goalkeeper and replaced three players.
Keita has replaced Coutinho (Barcelona)
Fabinho has replaced Can (Juventus)
Shaqiri has replaced Oxlade-Chamberlain (out injured for the season)

The squad depth issues remain - Van Dijk is the only fit central defender in the senior team for the start of the season so a player from the under age teams is likely to make their debut at the weekend.

beno619 · 09-08-2018 08:05AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

What I find odd is no team has been in for Toby Alderweirald, well not that anyone really knows anyway but for a top CB in the last 12 mths of his contract and publically said he wants away.

I will cry if i see BBC Breaking News: United lodge 80 millon bid for Maguire at 4.30 today or any time today really

Just going to reiterate a point I've made before but he's just not as good as he's been made out to be on this thread. So far no club has deemed him worth the money Spurs are looking for.

DM_7 · 09-08-2018 08:05AM

Expect nothing to happen now with transfers so just the presser at 9.30 to keep an eye on today.

TitianGerm · 09-08-2018 08:12AM

beno619 wrote: »

Just going to reiterate a point I've made before but he's just not as good as he's been made out to be on this thread. So far no club has deemed him worth the money Spurs are looking for.

I don't think it's that he's not worth it, it's more that they know he can be got for £25m next summer or probably £35-£40m in January.

I'd guess a lot of clubs are thinking why spend £70m on him now when we can get him for half that in a few months and spend the money saved on other players.

Talisman · 09-08-2018 08:14AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

What I find odd is no team has been in for Toby Alderweirald, well not that anyone really knows anyway but for a top CB in the last 12 mths of his contract and publically said he wants away.

According to various reports it's agreeing a price with Tottenham is the issue.

Talisman · 09-08-2018 08:16AM

TitianGerm wrote: »

I don't think it's that he's not worth it, it's more that they know he can be got for £25m next summer or probably £35-£40m in January.

I'd guess a lot of clubs are thinking why spend £70m on him now when we can get him for half that in a few months and spend the money saved on other players.

He'll be available on a free transfer next summer - they'll be lucky to get £18M for him in January.

paulbok · 09-08-2018 08:20AM

They have an extra year option with a release clause of 25m.

bangkok · 09-08-2018 08:27AM

Nobody after toby as everyone knows spurs asking price is crazy.

Be like us asking for 90m for luke shaw

Lord TSC · 09-08-2018 08:29AM

DM_7 wrote: »

Expect nothing to happen now with transfers so just the presser at 9.30 to keep an eye on today.

I would imagine if nothin is happening to day, Jose will say so there and then.

I.e. Meltdowns are scheduled for 9:45

TitianGerm · 09-08-2018 08:29AM

Talisman wrote: »

He'll be available on a free transfer next summer - they'll be lucky to get £18M for him in January.

No he won't because Spurs have an option to add a year extension and that activates his release clause.

Talisman · 09-08-2018 08:29AM

paulbok wrote: »

They have an extra year option with a release clause of 25m.

Wasn't it reported that the clause had to be activated this summer?

Bret Hart · 09-08-2018 08:42AM

Not long too go now till we all can stop refreshing Boards,Twitter or Redcafe etc etc every 10 to 15 minutes.

Trigger · 09-08-2018 08:51AM

Bret Hart wrote: »

Not long too go now till we all can stop refreshing Boards,Twitter or Redcafe etc etc every 10 to 15 minutes.

You mean the whole world stops when the English window closes

In fairness, I reckon there is going to be some huge moves toward the end of the European window, Reports of PSG looking at Dembele which could mean that Mbappe/Neymar to be moved on. English clubs going to be left with egg on their face by the end of August.

Lord TSC · 09-08-2018 09:05AM

Simon Stone now saying Zouma is a left field target today. Says Jose signed him for Chelsea originally and likes him still.

bangkok · 09-08-2018 09:06AM

Mina close to everton move

Trigger · 09-08-2018 09:07AM

https://twitter.com/sport_witness/status/1027463725505277952?s=21

Pogba. L'Equipe go massive and perhaps reveal crux of issue.

‘Barca, the Pogbluff?’

'Alexis Sanchez earns more than €20m. This didn’t go unnoticed in the Pogba camp, led by his agent Mino Raiola.’

Transfer chance ‘almost nil’.http://sportwitness.co.uk/didnt-go-unnoticed-pogbas-camp-shaken-sanchez-wages-manchester-united/ … #mufc

pjohnson · 09-08-2018 09:09AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Simon Stone now saying Zouma is a left field target today. Says Jose signed him for Chelsea originally and likes him still.

But he'll be coming in somewhere in the middle of what we already have ability wise?

Trigger · 09-08-2018 09:10AM

pjohnson wrote: »

But he'll be coming in somewhere in the middle of what we already have ability wise?

Personally think Zouma is on par with Bailly and above the rest, that’s just my opinion though, isn’t he a bit injury prone though?

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