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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 [Mod note 31-Aug-18]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

    SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

    SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?

    I don't know much about Dembele other than Barca paid a crazy amount for him. What's he like?

    If we got SMS before Pogba went, it would put us in a much better position, negotiations wise. WIth a replacement already acquired, we could really demand every penny possible from Barca.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

    SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?

    Whilst i agree with the sentiment my dear lady ;) i doubt there's any way barca gives us Coutinho money (which then gets used to purchase SMS) and Dembele for Pogba


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I don't know much about Dembele other than Barca paid a crazy amount for him. What's he like?

    If we got SMS before Pogba went, it would put us in a much better position, negotiations wise. WIth a replacement already acquired, we could really demand every penny possible from Barca.

    Obviously we'd have to get that over the line tomorrow too if we wnat Dembele coming our way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Drumpot wrote: »

    Or

    DDG
    Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
    Matic
    Fred - SMS
    Rashford - Lukaku - Sanchez

    Absent: Pogba (getting haircut)

    Swap rashford and Sanchez - at least there is proof Sanchez performs there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    brinty wrote: »
    Whilst i agree with the sentiment my dear lady ;) i doubt there's any way barca gives us Coutinho money (which then gets used to purchase SMS) and Dembele for Pogba

    Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

    Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

    Maybe half with Dembele.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,323 ✭✭✭paulbok


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    bangkok wrote: »
    All gifs should be banned from a discussion forum imo. They add absolutely nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

    Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

    Maybe half with Dembele.

    Feck it mate, if we got SMS fleece them for both ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭thetimeisnow


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Joking aside...
    DDG
    Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
    Matic
    Fred - SMS
    Pogba
    Lukaku - Sanchez
    The fullbacks are dirt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,494 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

    Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

    Maybe half with Dembele.

    They paid over €110m (or was it €120m) for Dembele. I doubt they'd give United €70m and Dembele for Pogba.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    bangkok wrote: »
    Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money

    Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    They paid over €110m (or was it €120m) for Dembele. I doubt they'd give United €70m and Dembele for Pogba.

    If they want rid of him (second choice to malcom?) then his value has dropped from the too high figure they paid. Pogba is a guy they want... 150 cash,imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

    In fact, I'd prefer to sign a player on the back of a poor WC (SMS) where its indicates we have scouted him and have him long identified as a target. Rather than just seen something shiny at the WC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,494 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    If they want rid of him (second choice to malcom?) then his value has dropped from the too high figure they paid. Pogba is a guy they want... 150 cash,imo.

    Even if they want rid they are not stupid, Arsenal apparently had offered £10m loan fee with an option to buy for £90m at the end of that.

    He's a super player who struggled a bit last season with injuries. They'll have plenty of suitors if they do decide to sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,302 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Even if they want rid they are not stupid, Arsenal apparently had offered £10m loan fee with an option to buy for £90m at the end of that.

    He's a super player who struggled a bit last season with injuries. They'll have plenty of suitors if they do decide to sell.

    Then I'd want full cash 150+ for Pogba.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,523 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    bangkok wrote: »
    Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money

    Man you are attached at the hip to Pogba


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    There is two days to go. Dembele or SMS isn't getting done.

    Alderweireld might be a mad scramble.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    J. Marston wrote: »
    There is two days to go. Dembele or SMS isn't getting done.

    Alderweireld might be a mad scramble.

    Less than 24 hours actually......


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    J. Marston wrote: »
    There is two days to go.

    You're off by double....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,768 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    A loan with obligation to buy would be the best we could hope for at this stage IF we are actually trying to sign any non-English based player be it SMS/Dembele/Mina/Boateng etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    pjohnson wrote: »
    A loan with obligation to buy would be the best we could hope for at this stage IF we are actually trying to sign any non-English based player be it SMS/Dembele/Mina/Boateng etc.

    Don't think there's anything about this deal structure that makes them any easier to agree per se, think they're more for controlling which year's books the money gets accounted for in.

    Pogba being replaced by SMS just puts the final nail in what has been a terrible Summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    (Serbian source) Manchester United have offered €100m for Sergej Milinković Savić, Lazio want €120m

    If United value him at 100m and they want 120m and similar with Toby 45m v 65m just stump up the extra and get a new corn flakes sponsor, tractor sponsor, toe nail clipper sponsor. Whatever :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,768 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Adamcp898 wrote: »
    Don't think there's anything about this deal structure that makes them any easier to agree per se, think they're more for controlling which year's books the money gets accounted for in.

    Pogba being replaced by SMS just puts the final nail in what has been a terrible Summer.

    Those structures seem to be more popular in Europe for some reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    rob316 wrote: »
    Man you are attached at the hip to Pogba

    ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,804 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Joking aside...
    DDG
    Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
    Matic
    Fred - SMS
    Pogba
    Lukaku - Sanchez

    Not bad, full backs still kill our forward play :) Will result in congested middle as teams won't be under threat out wide and a lot of frustrating home games trying to kick the opponent's door down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,625 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

    Not at all, 6 appearances is the perfect amount to judge a player, hence the feeling that Dalot is going to surprise people.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,701 ✭✭✭xtal191




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,625 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Sanchez was speaking pretty positively in that interview. Wants to win every trophy on offer etc, feels he will be a totally different proposition himself now he knows the training the methods the teammates etc

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,754 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    We sign someone alright

    #Believe

    EVENFLOW



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