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Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Mars A7X wrote: »
    Is this better than a saorview box?

    There is a 'Saorview Connect' box, which IF they roll out the promised upgrades, AND implement them to suit the users, could well be a contender.

    At present the Connect box is lacking functions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    There is a 'Saorview Connect' box, which IF they roll out the promised upgrades, AND implement them to suit the users, could well be a contender.

    At present the Connect box is lacking functions.

    Only if they add 7 day EPG on satellite, which is very doubtful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Mars A7X


    There is a 'Saorview Connect' box, which IF they roll out the promised upgrades, AND implement them to suit the users, could well be a contender.

    At present the Connect box is lacking functions.

    So at the moment this box is the best?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Mars A7X wrote: »
    So at the moment this box is the best?

    Definitely, if you put the time into getting it setup right, it's not plug and play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    But there are better models and higher priced ones but down to what you want.
    Boxes of years ago were slow and maybe had an internal hdd if box was big,small boxes had to use usb port and maybe only 1 fitted?
    Today boxes have more grunt and quicker to use and may come with more usb ports.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Is it possible to make the recordings on the HDD available on internal network another devices can play them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Is it possible to make the recordings on the HDD available on internal network another devices can play them?

    Yes. The easiest way is to use any web browser and open the boxes network address 192.168.xxx.xxx. You will open a page called Webif which allows you to control and stream the box live or recordings.
    Most PCs will also show the box in the file explorer if you wanted to copy/backup/share a recording.
    Click the small screen icon beside a channel name to stream that channel. The other icon is that channels EPG. Clicking the channel name itself will zap the box to that channel.
    In the top left is the movie section which works in a similar way.
    You can also edit bouquets, set timers/autotimers and much more from Webif.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Yes. The easiest way is to use any web browser and open the boxes network address 192.168.xxx.xxx. You will open a page called Webif which allows you to control and stream the box live or recordings.
    Most PCs will also show the box in the file explorer if you wanted to copy/backup/share a recording.
    Click the small screen icon beside a channel name to stream that channel. The other icon is that channels EPG. Clicking the channel name itself will zap the box to that channel.
    In the top left is the movie section which works in a similar way.
    You can also edit bouquets, set timers/autotimers and much more from Webif.
    Thanks I’ve been using webif and it’s great. What I’m hoping to do is to male my HDD available as a NAS so that my other smart tv can play the content. Is that possible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    you can have a dedicated nas connected to router and all internal or external hdd from boxes network mounted via samba.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    greasepalm wrote: »
    you can have a dedicated nas connected to router and all internal or external hdd from boxes network mounted via samba.

    Ok but you need a dedicated nas for this? No way to do it just using internal drive on tiviar?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    To share the drive to another Enigma 2 satellite box is pretty easy, NFS the Linux network file system is built in. All you need to do is mount the path on the other box, it will be the IP of the box with the path like the following nfs://192.168.0.xx/media/hdd/movie. Use this if you're devices support NFS. I'm using this on my own network and have my recordings showing up on another Edison combo box in the kitchen that I don't record on.

    To share using CIFS which is common shares on all Windows OSes you'll need to install and configure the Samba plugin. This will mean editing the file /etc/samba/smb.conf with your own network info and restarting the plugin. Windows devices will then see your Tiviar under network or can browse to it in file explorer using \\192.168.0.xx\.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Quite often Samba is already installed by default but may need to be started.
    BLUE>NETWORK>NETWORK SERVICES>SAMBA
    Once running it is possible to mount the HDD on a PC as a network drive like THHB says.

    Another option for a Smart TV is to install the DLNA plugin on the box. Any DLNA compatible device should then be able to see the movies folder. In practice I've had mixed results with a Sony Tv not recognising/handling all recording formats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Thanks guys . I'll give those ideas a go. The DNLA one sounds exactly what I need


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack



    Another option for a Smart TV is to install the DLNA plugin on the box. Any DLNA compatible device should then be able to see the movies folder.

    Sweet this worked perfectly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Mars A7X


    Is this easy enough to set up? And if not, is there a setup guide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Mars A7X wrote: »
    Is this easy enough to set up? And if not, is there a setup guide?

    There is a fair learning curve if you are not computer literate. Like many things a lot of it is simply getting used to the jargon. If the supplier hasn't done a basic setup beforehand, the box will "talk you through" the initial setup. You WILL need to scan the terrestrial channels for your local Saorview region and probably update the satellite scan. You will also need to set up your home network, preferably wired, to get the best from the box although it is not essential.
    If you've ever setup a PC or laptop, you'll cope with this.
    In terms of an online manual, this forum is one of the best ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Can I ask how are ye casting this to tvs in spare rooms?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Hello All,

    Some time ago I bought a AA2+ and with great guidance here, I configured it. However, I've never really been delighted with it. Timeshift and recording are problematic. If I have a program recording, then change to another channel, no problem. But do something else like open the EPG and (not always) BOOM! the little spinning icon appears, gradually the picture-in-picture starts to stutter, then the sound, then a flickering message about a crash. MrsNN goes nuts, especially as the message says the box will reboot in 10 seconds - but doesn't. Presumably that's because time has slowed down for the box due to CPU being hammered. After about 5 minutes, it will reboot - if I'm allowed wait that long :D

    (as an aside, everything is writing to disk, so that's not the problem and I'm using the latest VIX).

    So, I'm thinking of an upgrade. Might go for this one. See there are options for OpenATV or VIX. Does anyone here have experience of both ON THIS BOX, and would you have an opinion as to which is better. I'm thinking of performance rather than looking good. Also ease of recording and playback is a must-have for SWMBO. I see the basic box is now on offer at £99, so this might be a good time to jump.

    Thanks in advance everyone!
    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Hello All,

    Some time ago I bought a AA2+ and with great guidance here, I configured it. However, I've never really been delighted with it. Timeshift and recording are problematic. If I have a program recording, then change to another channel, no problem. But do something else like open the EPG and (not always) BOOM! the little spinning icon appears, gradually the picture-in-picture starts to stutter, then the sound, then a flickering message about a crash. MrsNN goes nuts, especially as the message says the box will reboot in 10 seconds - but doesn't. Presumably that's because time has slowed down for the box due to CPU being hammered. After about 5 minutes, it will reboot - if I'm allowed wait that long :D

    (as an aside, everything is writing to disk, so that's not the problem and I'm using the latest VIX).

    So, I'm thinking of an upgrade. Might go for this one. See there are options for OpenATV or VIX. Does anyone here have experience of both ON THIS BOX, and would you have an opinion as to which is better. I'm thinking of performance rather than looking good. Also ease of recording and playback is a must-have for SWMBO. I see the basic box is now on offer at £99, so this might be a good time to jump.

    Thanks in advance everyone!
    Nick

    Personally I prefer openATV as I find it more versatile with more options and plugins. However AFAIK both atv and vix have the same core components so performance etc should be similar.
    As for your AA2 crashing, I wonder if you are saving your EPG data on the internal memory rather than HDD. It could also just be the HDD isn't fast enough to cope with a recording and other demands at the same time. Is it an actual HDD or just a USB key? Many USB keys are too slow for this use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Hi Gerry,

    Thanks for taking the trouble....

    I've triple checked that everything is writing to the HDD, including the EPG.

    The HDD is a USB connected device, without separate power. (the hardware config was recommended by the shop I bought it from in Dublin). I suppose I could try getting a second HDD or even USB stick and pointing the EPG at that, as the scenario I described might be as you say, down to conflicts when too many processes are trying to use the HDD. But...... if throwing money at it solves the problem, well 100+ euro would be cheap enough if it works AND makes my boss happy!

    If I solve the problem using second storage device for EPG, I'll post about my experience in the AA2+ forum.

    If I buy the Tiviar and set it up to 'our' satisfaction, then I'll post here.

    Thanks again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    The AA2 was slow and had lots of issues. It needed a regular image reflash to keep it running well as the longer it was installed the slower it got. The Tiviar is miles ahead of it on both speed and stability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Hi Gerry,

    Thanks for taking the trouble....

    I've triple checked that everything is writing to the HDD, including the EPG.

    The HDD is a USB connected device, without separate power. (the hardware config was recommended by the shop I bought it from in Dublin). I suppose I could try getting a second HDD or even USB stick and pointing the EPG at that, as the scenario I described might be as you say, down to conflicts when too many processes are trying to use the HDD. But...... if throwing money at it solves the problem, well 100+ euro would be cheap enough if it works AND makes my boss happy!

    If I solve the problem using second storage device for EPG, I'll post about my experience in the AA2+ forum.

    If I buy the Tiviar and set it up to 'our' satisfaction, then I'll post here.

    Thanks again.
    I was thinking if you had another HDD knocking about to try that. If it's a case of going out to buy something then I'd sooner spend on the Tiviar than waste more on the AA2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I was thinking if you had another HDD knocking about to try that. If it's a case of going out to buy something then I'd sooner spend on the Tiviar than waste more on the AA2.

    You may also be able to remove your existing hd from it's enclosure and use it as internal in the Tiviar. That's assuming it's working fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Hi Gerry,
    Yes, I'm a great believer in not throwing good money after bad, as they say. I'll take a look in my box of spares and see what's there. If I find nothing, then its off down the Tiviar route for me.

    Hi High-horse-brigade,
    Yeah, that was the plan, as the £99 offer doesn't include a HDD.

    I'll post my observations whichever way I go. (This approach has been useful to myself, like keeping a diary, but everyone gets to read it:D)

    thanks to you both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Many users have had issues with passport hdd with usb power,externally powered seem to work better or try using a powdered usb hub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Mars A7X


    Hey there, one last question before purchase. I understand you can opt in for a HDD and wireless USB. For the price of the upgrades you can easily get much cheaper or better alternatives. Is the the HDD hard to install by yourself if you were to use your own and would any wifi dongle work? Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Mars A7X wrote: »
    Hey there, one last question before purchase. I understand you can opt in for a HDD and wireless USB. For the price of the upgrades you can easily get much cheaper or better alternatives. Is the the HDD hard to install by yourself if you were to use your own and would any wifi dongle work? Cheers.

    HDD is easy enough to install, just open the box and connect it then initialise it in the software. The WiFi dongle needs to be supported by Enigma software so would be best ordered with the box as only some are compatible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Better to go with hard wired if possible and if needing more lan connections a network switch?
    Thinking most hdd are sata?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Most USB drives when taken out of the case can be connected internally in the box. It's a sata connection.

    WiFi sticks. Ralink rt5370. They are less than a fiver. The ones with the aerial on them work fine with e2 boxes.

    The problems with the aa2 boxes is the CPU and the flash memory. It's too low to try and do what it's doing. Anything below 750mhz and you are going to get issues even on real e2 boxes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭andy1249


    STB. wrote: »
    Most USB drives when taken out of the case can be connected internally in the box. It's a sata connection.

    WD passports dont have a sata connection, just the same usb connection you see from the case. So watch out for these.

    The Tiviar takes a slim form factor 2.5 inch laptop type hard drive.


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