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Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

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  • #1682
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So I sniffed some glue, to clear my head
    Then rode her rotten on her mothers bed
    A bag for me, a bag for you
    Let's get wrecked on bags of glue!

    Definitely an anti-glue anthem there. Limerick's answer to White Lines surely.

    /SARCASM


  • #1683
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He literally has a song called “Bag of Glue”.

    It’s one thing recreationally using drugs oneself, but to advocate it from your “platform” towards impressionable young people is a step too far. As you have acknowledged yourself, it can trigger, sometimes extremely dangerous deep lying issues.

    Bag of glue is just a standard parody of a drug use song.
    He needs to be high to ride the fat bird and ends up walking up stuck to her arse.
    If you can't see the parody in that.

    Ironically there is a segment at the start of the song with a gathering of men all meeting up once a week to enjoy being around each other without the pressure of women.

    And that song is probably 15 odd years old now?


  • #1684
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    Bag of glue is just a standard parody of a drug use song.
    He needs to be high to ride the fat bird and ends up walking up stuck to her arse.
    If you can't see the parody in that.

    Ironically there is a segment at the start of the song with a gathering of men all meeting up once a week to enjoy being around each other without the pressure of women.

    And that song is probably 15 odd years old now?

    Mental health champion in the guise of someone mocking people for their appearance.

    The threads unravel even more....


  • #1685
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He literally has a song called “Bag of Glue”.

    Yes? That tells me nothing about his position on the substance. IT just tells me what the song is called.

    I just speed read the lyrics here and they do not seem to be advocating the use of it anyway. From what I got of the gist of the song the main character of the song ends up with a particularly unattractive sexual partner and the drug caused him to compromise on his sexual standards and have sex with this partner all the same.

    Now perhaps that makes the drug appealing to YOU but it does the opposite to me. The image of me having sex with someone massively unattractive due to the influence of a given drug would be more likely to make me NOT want to take that drug.

    The character he builds in that song is repellent, instantly dis-likable, treats the woman in the song in a demeaning and awful way. And he is linking THAT character to the use of glue. And you think that is ADVOCATION of the substance? Wow..... just.... just wow man. If that is how you parse the song, fine.... but I see it as building an awful set of imagery around that drug and the culture of those who use it.

    However this is a SONG. You are comparing what he says in his comical song work, with what he says in his serious subject podcasts. This is not honestly comparing like with like. Could you perhaps cite me what he has SAID on the subject of those drugs?
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    As you have acknowledged yourself, it can trigger, sometimes extremely dangerous deep lying issues.

    So can alcohol. But I still advocate the use of alcohol. It is a shame, an awful one, that certain recreational drugs and so forth can trigger issues in people who have them. We need to do things to mediate that issue.

    But it should not be a reason for the rest of us to modify our culture or behavior around those drugs.


  • #1686
    Sal Butamol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    Does Blindboy think he can mock these young men out of their depression?


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  • #1687
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    Bag of glue is just a standard parody of a drug use song.
    He needs to be high to ride the fat bird and ends up walking up stuck to her arse.
    If you can't see the parody in that.

    To masquerade as someone who cares deeply about feminism after writing a song like that is ridiculous. I don't know if he's changed his tune since writing these songs but a lot of them make him seem like nothing but a hypocrite.


  • #1688
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    Bag of glue is just a standard parody of a drug use song.
    He needs to be high to ride the fat bird and ends up walking up stuck to her arse.
    If you can't see the parody in that.

    Ironically there is a segment at the start of the song with a gathering of men all meeting up once a week to enjoy being around each other without the pressure of women.

    And that song is probably 15 odd years old now?

    So attacking someone's appearance for the sake of a few quid from a parody video is what all the mental health advocates are at these days, eh?? Sure self esteem has nothing to do with mental health??


  • #1689
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Decided to stay till I'm sure - 75% leaning to deluded fanboy but I'm still deciding.

    I have yet to see many fanboys on here. There is one guy who turns out to be a mate of him, which is about as close as it gets. I know I barely know anything about the guy. 4 Podcasts, 1 tweet, 1 short clip of a late late appearance, and now the lyrics of one single song.... that is the sum total of my knowledge at this point.

    The song that made them break through? Have not even heard that in my life yet.

    I fear you just knee jerk words like "fanboy" out when you have decided you can not longer keep with the discourse.
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Yeah his target audience has that level of nuance. I think not.

    Nuance? I just read the lyrics for the first time today and if you think you need NUANCE to get the imagery in that song then I can see why you are having trouble keeping up with the thread.
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Mental health champion in the guise of someone mocking people for their appearance. The threads unravel even more....

    The song is not mocking someone for their appearance. Again this is not nuance but you seem to think it is.

    The song has the PROTAGONIST of the song mocking her appearance, in a way that contrived to make the listener (or in my case reader) dislike the main protagonist. The song serves in line after line to make the protagonist of the song an ugly, abhorrent, dis-likable, awful individual.

    The song THEN links that unlikable horrible person to "glue" and how the awful person uses "glue" to support and in some ways justify their awfulness.

    And you peopel think that is ADVOCATING the drug? You do not need to Major in English Literature to see the message of the song here.


  • #1690
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    Yes? That tells me nothing about his position on the substance. IT just tells me what the song is called.

    I just speed read the lyrics here and they do not seem to be advocating the use of it anyway. From what I got of the gist of the song the main character of the song ends up with a particularly unattractive sexual partner and the drug caused him to compromise on his sexual standards and have sex with this partner all the same.

    Now perhaps that makes the drug appealing to YOU but it does the opposite to me. The image of me having sex with someone massively unattractive due to the influence of a given drug would be more likely to make me NOT want to take that drug.

    The character he builds in that song is repellent, instantly dis-likable, treats the woman in the song in a demeaning and awful way. And he is linking THAT character to the use of glue. And you think that is ADVOCATION of the substance? Wow..... just.... just wow man. If that is how you parse the song, fine.... but I see it as building an awful set of imagery around that drug and the culture of those who use it.

    However this is a SONG. You are comparing what he says in his comical song work, with what he says in his serious subject podcasts. This is not honestly comparing like with like. Could you perhaps cite me what he has SAID on the subject of those drugs?



    So can alcohol. But I still advocate the use of alcohol. It is a shame, an awful one, that certain recreational drugs and so forth can trigger issues in people who have them. We need to do things to mediate that issue.

    But it should not be a reason for the rest of us to modify our culture or behavior around those drugs.

    "A bag for me, a bag for you, let's get f*cked up on bags of glue"

    Have to hand it to you, you're a gas c*nt.:pac:


  • #1691
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I don't think he's as bright as he thinks he is.


    Starts at 28 minutes


    https://www.acast.com/blindboy/staudenstapedeck

    I enjoy the podcast for the most part. I find him a bit preachy especially the way he defines art but I enjoy it for the most. I love all the mental health stuff.


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  • #1692
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Mental health champion in the guise of someone mocking people for their appearance.

    The threads unravel even more....

    Noone really cares, because it's a parody. It's a joke.
    People are able to understand it's a joke.


    If you hate something so much, why spend so much wasted time on it?


  • #1693
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭optogirl


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Mental health champion in the guise of someone mocking people for their appearance.

    The threads unravel even more....

    No, the dope sniffing glue in the song is mocking people for their appearance. It's not an extract from BB's diary.


  • #1694
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    Noone really cares, because it's a parody. It's a joke.
    People are able to understand it's a joke.

    Tell that to an overweight girl.


  • #1695
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Erica Pitiful Appetizer wrote: »
    To masquerade as someone who cares deeply about feminism after writing a song like that is ridiculous. I don't know if he's changed his tune since writing these songs but a lot of them make him seem like nothing but a hypocrite.

    were Pearl Jam advocating standing up in a classroom and shooting yourself in the head?


  • #1696
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Erica Pitiful Appetizer wrote: »
    Tell that to an overweight girl.

    ah come on now


  • #1697
    Sal Butamol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    I have yet to see many fanboys on here. There is one guy who turns out to be a mate of him, which is about as close as it gets. I know I barely know anything about the guy. 4 Podcasts, 1 tweet, 1 short clip of a late late appearance, and now the lyrics of one single song.... that is the sum total of my knowledge at this point.

    The song that made them break through? Have not even heard that in my life yet.

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  • #1698
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Erica Pitiful Appetizer wrote: »
    To masquerade as someone who cares deeply about feminism after writing a song like that is ridiculous. I don't know if he's changed his tune since writing these songs but a lot of them make him seem like nothing but a hypocrite.

    Nail on head there.

    Though we may be using the wrong definition of feminism and perhaps he's using one where it is okay to demean women if they are unattractive ?


  • #1699
    DavidLyons_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

    Mental health champion in the guise of someone mocking people for their appearance.

    The threads unravel even more....
    The thread is a bomb site. Lenghty, meandering, deflecting responses from this unfunny chancer's fans followed by reasonable, well thought out points being made by those who see through his bullsh1t charade.

    In his songs, is he taking the piss out of those whose mental health he claims to be so concerned about?

    Is he fat shaming the girl in his song?

    Do all of these people "need feminism" in order to attain strong mental health?

    I think he disappeared up his own ar*e a long, long time ago.


  • #1700
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭optogirl


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Nail on head there.

    Though we may be using the wrong definition of feminism and perhaps he's using one where it is okay to demean women if they are unattractive ?

    No he isn't. The character in the song is doing that. The song is pointing at that kind of idiot, not at the overweight woman


  • #1701
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Ush1 wrote: »
    "A bag for me, a bag for you, let's get f*cked up on bags of glue"

    Have to hand it to you, you're a gas c*nt.:pac:

    Or you are given my position on the matter is based on ALL the lyrics in the song, while yours is based on lifting one single line out of it. Which of us does that make more credible (clue, not you).

    As I have explained (that I even need to explain it really makes me despair for the literature interpretation classes we have in Secondary School)..... the entire song build an image of an abhorrent and awful protagonist.

    The song then focuses on a particular single behavior of that protagonist, namely taking glue.

    To think that therefore the song is doing that to advocate the use of glue, rather than to link it to an awful character......... well as I said you need to go back to your English Teacher in secondary school and tell him he failed. This is not subtle or nuanced use of imagery here.


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  • #1702
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So attacking someone's appearance for the sake of a few quid from a parody video is what all the mental health advocates are at these days, eh?? Sure self esteem has nothing to do with mental health??

    Will it make you feel better if i just say yes?

    If you want to take things so literally, then go for it.


    Sure he says he wants someones father in another song. Not great really is it.



    Shame is parody and a character but you're 200% on point.


  • #1703
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Erica Pitiful Appetizer wrote: »
    Tell that to an overweight girl.

    Hello from one! Well, woman.

    Not offended per se, cos Jaysus who'd go to bed with a tit in a Spar bag ???

    But to present feminist credentials and "sing" that sh1te ? Hypocritical at best.


  • #1704
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Erica Pitiful Appetizer wrote: »
    Tell that to an overweight girl.

    Ok. I'll ride some whale at the weekend and get stuck to her arse.



    Better open up her father's face with a Stanley knife as well.
    Sure it's in a song.


  • #1705
    Sal Butamol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    Or you are given my position on the matter is based on ALL the lyrics in the song, while yours is based on lifting one single line out of it. Which of us does that make more credible (clue, not you).

    As I have explained (that I even need to explain it really makes me despair for the literature interpretation classes we have in Secondary School)..... the entire song build an image of an abhorrent and awful protagonist.

    The song then focuses on a particular single behavior of that protagonist, namely taking glue.

    To think that therefore the song is doing that to advocate the use of glue, rather than to link it to an awful character......... well as I said you need to go back to your English Teacher in secondary school and tell him he failed. This is not subtle or nuanced use of imagery here.

    So he is reaching out to vulnerable types by mocking them as awful characters in the hope they see the light, find his podcast, donate on patreon and discover the joys of feminism.

    The man's a genius


  • #1706
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    DavidLyons_ wrote: »
    Is he fat shaming the girl in his song?

    I can not parse it that way at all.

    As I said to two other users, I just read over the lyrics and the song appears to be trying to build an awful, repellent, lead character. The kind of person who does fat shame, use people for sex even if he finds them repulsive and more. The whole song contrives to make you dislike the main character.

    THEN he has that character make a given drug the crutch that justifies and supports those abhorrent character traits. Thus tainting the drug by it's association with the awful character who is taking it.

    This is not nuanced shakespearean use of imagery and motive here. It is barely nuanced, in your face, simplistic motif that I am embarrassed to even have to explain.

    Outside of the song, has he spoken much about the drug itself and what he, rather than the character in a parody song, actually thinks about it? Can anyone cite this stuff?


  • #1707
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    The idea that the song was supposed to deconstruct stereotypes or be progressive is some of the most hilarious sh*te I've read on this thread.

    Do people seriously think its audience were standing around at their gigs going, "hmm, I really think the protagonists behaviour here is despicable, what a deep metaphor and an inciteful social commentary" instead of actually drunk and pissed up students/ne'er do wells off their face dancing to a song about taking drugs?

    All those rappers like Lil Jon and The Game aren't advocating misogyny, pimping women and violence. It's actually a higher concept, high-falutin' take on society that us thickos can't understand.


  • #1708
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭optogirl


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    I can not parse it that way at all.

    As I said to two other users, I just read over the lyrics and the song appears to be trying to build an awful, repellent, lead character. The kind of person who does fat shame, use people for sex even if he finds them repulsive and more. The whole song contrives to make you dislike the main character.

    THEN he has that character make a given drug the crutch that justifies and supports those abhorrent character traits. Thus tainting the drug by it's association with the awful character who is taking it.

    This is not nuanced shakespearean use of imagery and motive here. It is barely nuanced, in your face, simplistic motif that I am embarrassed to even have to explain.

    Outside of the song, has he spoken much about the drug itself and what he, rather than the character in a parody song, actually thinks about it? Can anyone cite this stuff?


    You have the patience of angels Nozz


  • #1709
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Sal Butamol wrote: »
    So he is reaching out to vulnerable types by mocking them as awful characters in the hope they see the light, find his podcast, donate on patreon and discover the joys of feminism.

    The man's a genius

    Again you need to ask him what his motive is for it. I can not speak for him. All I can tell you is that reading the lyrics I do not see it as a song that is advocating the use of that drug. And I can see no valid way to interpret the song as having done so.


  • #1710
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Ush1 wrote: »
    The idea that the song was supposed to deconstruct stereotypes or be progressive is some of the most hilarious sh*te I've read on this thread.

    The idea that the song was supposed to ADVOCATE for the use of that drug, by constructing an absolutely repellant and repugnant main character who uses it, is some of the most hilarious sh*te I've read on ANY thread.

    But I am still waiting for what you people dont appear to have. Citations and quotes of him actually discussing what HE, rather than a character in a song he has created 7 or so years ago, thinks of the drug.


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  • #1711
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    Ok. I'll ride some whale at the weekend and get stuck to her arse.



    Better open up her father's face with a Stanley knife as well.
    Sure it's in a song.

    Just because it's a song does not make it okay. I don't care if it's a parody. You can't be a mental health advocate and a self-proclaimed feminist whilst simultaneously referring to the weight of a female in a derogatory sense and stating that the use of drugs is needed to "clear his head" before he can determine whether he can engage in sexual intercourse with her. The main characteristic of the girl in this song is that she's overweight, and that this makes her unattractive.

    Don't tell me that's not hypocritical, and don't even get me started on the other suggestion that there's a deeper meaning behind this song like there is to "Jeremy" by Pearl Jam. Blindboy is no Eddie Vedder. Fact.


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