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Vets: Saints or ****?

  • 25-07-2018 06:37PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭


    I don't really like when our dog is ill; not only because I love her very much and her pain is my pain, but because it also hurts my pocket. It hurts my pocket because, well, vets are robbing c*nts.

    There, I said it. I know it's controversial, and I know they cure our furry friends of their ills, and I know we treat these people with the reverance that we treated priests with a few decades ago but, like those some of those same priests, vets are knackers, and charlatans, and scumbags - well, some of them. Our one, Aoife, most certainly is.

    In my experience with Aoife and others, vets usually look for - and usually find - something else wrong with your cat or dog, just to ensure that the bill is a bit longer. And obviously you can't say, 'Hang on Aoife, is her tail really going to fall off if we don't buy your €80 prescription skin cream?' or else you look like a sh*t owner who cares more about money than you do about the pet, which is categorically untrue.

    Our visit today cost a lot of money. We came back with treatments for three different things, even though we went for a specific complaint - her paws.

    If it helps the dog then maybe it's money well spent, but how do I, as a non-vet, know if the dog was actually suffering from these other things in the first place? How do I know it's not the equivalent of a GP writing a prescription for cortisol cream just because her patient happened to come in with flakey eyebrows or something? How do we know Aoife and other vets aren't taking the piss on a massive scale? We don't. We just have to grin and bear it and take it up the arse because a UCD 2015 graduate says this is the best course of action.

    No more Butchy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,722 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I think our vets are fantastic, they aren't cheap but we have pet insurance which helps and I think is pretty essential especially if pedigree dog.

    If you don't like your vet or you think you are being ripped off move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    I guess you're just unlucky. My local vet is kind and reasonable. More like a vocation to him. Even gives credit, while not charging an outrageous amount in the first place. He's one of the old school types.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,504 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I do tax returns for a few vets and in general it is poorly paid given the required qualifications. It is not for money that someone becomes a vet from my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭alexlyons


    I agree.

    There should be a vetting process before they get onto the college course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    Super vet is a great tv show.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    alexlyons wrote: »
    I agree.

    There should be a vetting process before they get onto the college course

    And then work placement abroad, somewhere in Asia maybe...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Start up your own practice and charge what you think is appropriate then.

    Come on.

    What's stopping you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,129 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    It's ruff going alright, best bet is to find the correct authority to bitch to and sing like a canary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭RHJ


    This post has been deleted.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd put the blame more at the feet of insurance companies and medical supply companies. Vet costs and bills have gone up a lot since the whole pet insurance thing came in. Such insurance almost always raises prices across the board, both to the supplier of a service/product and the consumer.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    My vet is A-1.

    You just got unlucky or have a hypochondriac for a dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    Whos forcing you to use their services? If you dont think the something else they found wrong is an issue act like a grown up and tell them. The internet is there (if used properly) with a wealth of information to help you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭Danny Donut


    There is a vet quite close to us - he is an ignorant, money grabbing A/hole.


    So I travel 20+ miles, to a lovely practise. They are knowledgable and kind and when my poor boy had to end his days they refunded all the unused drugs he had been prescribed.


    Like every profession, Gards, Teachers, Priests - - some are total cnuts and some are just so kind it gives you a lump in the throat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    RHJ wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    That's because one of the modules is removing the watch from a person's wrist without them noticing and most haven't got the balls to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    My vet is A-1.

    You just got unlucky or have a hypochondriac for a dog.

    Is your vets name Sharon ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Is your vets name Sharon ?

    No its Georgie as it happens, why do you ask:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'd put the blame more at the feet of insurance companies and medical supply companies. Vet costs and bills have gone up a lot since the whole pet insurance thing came in. Such insurance almost always raises prices across the board, both to the supplier of a service/product and the consumer.

    I was gonna post the same thing, but deleted as I would expect a ****storm from somebody. Same insurance issue has the health service for humans in a crap state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Same scenario with mechanics OP.

    Bring your car in for a service...boom! Apparently your roof needs fo be replaced. That will be €5000 and a Twix please.

    I have always found vets to be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Go easy on them.

    Last thing we wanna do is follow America where the number of homeless vets, sometimes even with a dog in tow would you believe, is shocking.

    I'm happy we can at least keep roofs over ours heads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    It cost 600 euro last year when my baby had skin cancer. Worth every cent.

    My vote goes for saints. All day long.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Love our vets, did work experience in it for a year and it really helps to get a behind the scenes viewpoint as well. So yea they're going to try and sell you prescription food and stuff but take what they say with a pinch of salt. Is my cat going to die from an itchy belly, does he really need the cream? Meh probably not but from a lot of the vets i've seen & worked with, they mention it more out of care/for the animals benefit than trying to get more money. So just suck it up and don't feel the guilt.
    If it's a practice with one main vet employing others then he's only paying them a salary anyway, they aren't going to get more money for sales.

    Plus I always feel so bad calling them at 3am for a calving, i called one away from his Easter dinner this year :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Being a vet is more difficult than a doctor IMHO.
    Vets know the biology of several species, doctors know 1.
    Vets can diagnose without asking patient any questions.

    But to answer your Q. You need to find a nice vet. There are some out there. Our guy is lovely, reasonable, and you can bring dogs to him at home in middle of the night in an emergency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I do tax returns for a few vets and in general it is poorly paid given the required qualifications. It is not for money that someone becomes a vet from my experience.

    I presume there is plenty of cash involved as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    Our vet is awesome and not in any way expensive - at least we've never opted to go the insurance route as the fee was never as much as our excess payment. I've not seen it but apparently she's on some BBC kids vet programme for the last while too, fair play to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,504 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I presume there is plenty of cash involved as well

    On what basis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Vets are just pussy grabbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    I don't really like when our dog is ill; not only because I love her very much and her pain is my pain, but because it also hurts my pocket. It hurts my pocket because, well, vets are robbing c*nts.

    There, I said it. I know it's controversial, and I know they cure our furry friends of their ills, and I know we treat these people with the reverance that we treated priests with a few decades ago but, like those some of those same priests, vets are knackers, and charlatans, and scumbags - well, some of them. Our one, Aoife, most certainly is.

    In my experience with Aoife and others, vets usually look for - and usually find - something else wrong with your cat or dog, just to ensure that the bill is a bit longer. And obviously you can't say, 'Hang on Aoife, is her tail really going to fall off if we don't buy your €80 prescription skin cream?' or else you look like a sh*t owner who cares more about money than you do about the pet, which is categorically untrue.

    Our visit today cost a lot of money. We came back with treatments for three different things, even though we went for a specific complaint - her paws.

    If it helps the dog then maybe it's money well spent, but how do I, as a non-vet, know if the dog was actually suffering from these other things in the first place? How do I know it's not the equivalent of a GP writing a prescription for cortisol cream just because her patient happened to come in with flakey eyebrows or something? How do we know Aoife and other vets aren't taking the piss on a massive scale? We don't. We just have to grin and bear it and take it up the arse because a UCD 2015 graduate says this is the best course of action.

    No more Butchy.

    A real man knows when and how to put his dog down himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    There’s s vet near us in Kildare, complete gentleman and scholar.

    Has a real vocation and love of animals. Lovely lovely man.

    Absolute saint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I do tax returns for a few vets and in general it is poorly paid given the required qualifications. It is not for money that someone becomes a vet from my experience.

    Yeah, it’s a gruelling degree course that it’s hard to even get into. I don’t begrudge them whatever they earn. Plus, a lot of animal ailments are GROSS. I could not deal with them at all at all.

    The people I know who are vets are genuinely passionate about their job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    Have to agree with the OP. Our vets have become total rip off merchants in the last 4 years (been with them 12). Charging WAY above the odds on all treatments and now there is the rudest Lithuanian lady vet there and she has ZERO interest in the animals....no bedside manner at all and her fee is WHOPPING every time for simple things.

    Have decided to switch vets


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